8ball
Decolonise colons!
They printed hundreds of billions to sate the bankers a decade or so back. Maybe they could try down the back of the sofa?
Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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They printed hundreds of billions to sate the bankers a decade or so back. Maybe they could try down the back of the sofa?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
To add; Portland is not representative of the wider America
OK, let's say I buy this (and I don't) where does the dough come from?
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There is a good deal of wasteful spending. Some hideous rusty sculptures were recently built near me. They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The money came from the city arts budget. Art is fine but there are more important needs like the ones you listed. The state could provide funding also. Taxes here are pretty high. I honestly don't know what they do with all the money.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Something that’s not reported (at least as far as I’ve seen) is that the US is seeing a wave of strikes not seen for decades, often wildcat which indicates a mass discontent, and a further crisis of legitimacy there is a report here Wave of 1000 strikes ripples across the US as crisis bites
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
Cheers for the link - I had heard of some strikes anecdotally from US contacts but wasn't aware of the extent of it.
The federal gov. also gave billions to big business to help with the economic damage due to the pandemic. But they gave only $1,200 for each adult and $500 for each child. But it was just a one time payment. This is obviously corruption.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
so do you have a point anymore or should we just start treating you the amazon driver?
“Defunding” means “decrease the funding”, not “cut the funding to zero”. And if you don’t agree with decreasing the funding of the police purely on the grounds that “the police are important”, I again have to ask you what you think the appropriate percentage allocation should be for the police service? Do you think it just happens to currently set at the perfect level? Should they get even more? I mean, why not, since they are so important? Is it not reasonable for people to suggest that the funding level is currently set too high?
Sorry, I don't have an exact percentage of the budget that should go for the police. For my city, I'd say it should be restored to the level before it was cut in June.
So you don’t actually know. You literally know nothing about the budgeting of your local services and you literally have no idea what the appropriate allocation of budget should be. And yet you’re happy to tell people that have actually looked into it and are proposing alternatives that they are wrong. Not based on any knowledge you have, but just because you don’t like a slogan that you don’t even understand. That's a particular grade of genius you’ve got going on there, Tom.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Moreso than this, it refers to the fact not so much that police are "overfunded", but that they are charged with duties that they are not really the optimal people to be dealing with .
If you start with a severely underfunded police department, then theoretically you could do the things that some "defund the police" advocates suggest, but without necessrily reducing the police budget.
Though you'd obviously need to find the funds to spend on those other things.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
We have all seen the tweets - two are on urban.
So this is kinda cool
www.cnn.com
So this is kinda cool
Gay men have taken over the Proud Boys Twitter hashtag | CNN
The Proud Boys hashtag, which members of the far-right group have been using, was trending Sunday after gay men on Twitter hijacked it and flooded the feed with photos of their loved ones and families and with memes.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Also the Pentagon hands the police lots of military gear it doesnt need anymore. From stuff that might be useful to complete overkill.
elbows
Well-Known Member
We have all seen the tweets - two are on urban.
So this is kinda cool
Gay men have taken over the Proud Boys Twitter hashtag | CNN
The Proud Boys hashtag, which members of the far-right group have been using, was trending Sunday after gay men on Twitter hijacked it and flooded the feed with photos of their loved ones and families and with memes.
The BBC noticed.
Proud Boys: Far-right group becomes LGBT trend online
Users have been posting pictures of gay pride on social media to drown out offensive online content.
www.bbc.co.uk
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
In fact this happened not just once, but twice. 1971 and 2014/15. Various reasons are posited for this, not least “Proactive policing also disrupts communal life, which can drain social control of group-level violence. Citizens are arrested, unauthorized markets are disrupted, and people lose their jobs, all of which create more localized stress on individuals already living on the edge.”
In New York, major crime complaints fell when cops took a break from ‘proactive policing’
When New York police officers temporarily reduced their “proactive policing” efforts on low-level offenses, major-crime reports in the city actually fell, according to a study based on New York Police Department crime statistics.
www.latimes.com
The Week Without Police: What We Can Learn from the 1971 NYC Police Strike - Untapped New York
Even while the majority of NYPD officers went on strike in the January of 1971, New York City remained safe, offering a valuable lesson for today.
untappedcities.com
tldr - fuck the police
Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.In fact this happened not just once, but twice. 1971 and 2014/15. Various reasons are posited for this, not least “Proactive policing also disrupts communal life, which can drain social control of group-level violence. Citizens are arrested, unauthorized markets are disrupted, and people lose their jobs, all of which create more localized stress on individuals already living on the edge.”
In New York, major crime complaints fell when cops took a break from ‘proactive policing’
When New York police officers temporarily reduced their “proactive policing” efforts on low-level offenses, major-crime reports in the city actually fell, according to a study based on New York Police Department crime statistics.
The Week Without Police: What We Can Learn from the 1971 NYC Police Strike - Untapped New York
Even while the majority of NYPD officers went on strike in the January of 1971, New York City remained safe, offering a valuable lesson for today.
tldr - fuck the police
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
www.wsj.com
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Fuck youFuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Oh, and fuck you, too.Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Why the fuck are you on here, you liberal cunt?Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
Nylock
I hate 'these days'...
Antifa is not an organised hierarchical group, it's a political philosophy that's against fascism you wilfully ignorant twit.Fuck antifa,...
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
Oh fuck off
saying that they are now defunding the police
happy days
8ball
Decolonise colons!
We have all seen the tweets - two are on urban.
So this is kinda cool
Gay men have taken over the Proud Boys Twitter hashtag | CNN
The Proud Boys hashtag, which members of the far-right group have been using, was trending Sunday after gay men on Twitter hijacked it and flooded the feed with photos of their loved ones and families and with memes.
I’m not sure how homophobic the Proud Boys are. They are definitely transphobic so that might be a better stick to poke them with:
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
So you're anti-antifa. Which places you in some very dubious company.Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
I am opposed to them. They are a very dangerous group. They stand for violence, destruction and anarchy. I've seen the results of their ideology.
https://twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/...at-you-need-to-know-about-the-antifa-movementReplying to @RoseCityAntifa
We are opposed to the police, a violent institution of the white supremacist state founded with the explicit intent of patrolling enslaved African people, and today continues to target, harm, and murder Black people, POC, poor people, and other oppressed groups.
Always Antifascist
@RoseCityAntifa
We stand in solidarity with all those who call for the defunding, disarming, and complete abolition of the police and prison systems.
8:10 PM · Jun 9, 2020
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
again i did not see you crying about having armed militias out on your streets
did that calm the situation or help with police funding?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Fuck antifa, fuck the anarchists, fuck the rioters, fuck the wimp politicians who knuckle under to mob rule.
Portland Police Worry About More Unrest as Stress Grows and Resources Shrink
After more than three months of daily protests, and hit by budget cuts and a rise in retirements, police in Portland, Ore., are facing a rise in violent crime and say they are overstretched.
When were you first seduced by authoritarian regimes, Tom?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
When you’re to the right of Teen Vogue, you probably need to have a word with yourself
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
what about the brutal actions of the cops who are failing to protect and serve their community, what about violent armed far right militia intimidating protestors, what about the fact that many of them are also cops?
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
I think it's great that Tom is riled, angry and upset. It's just the sort of person that should be feeling that at the moment. 
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