Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
How would we sort things, do you think, in such a situation?
Do you have a notion what it is to see the police as just another enemy, just another force out to get you?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
so you real see no problem with the Portland police system?
it innocent in lead up to weeks and months of riots?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
And problematic police need dealing with.
Like the sectarian RUC, or the racist SA cops of apartheid times
Correct. But defunding isn't any kind of answer. Would you want the police in the UK to be defunded?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
I don't live in the UK. However, If I lived in an area where the filth brutalized residents and teargassed them - certainly. Money could be freed up and put into the community, rather than upholding an inherently racist and confrontational system.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Another filth gets away with murder. This time around, shot for taking down an active shooter.
The victim's name is Jemel Roberson.
But no, of course, the police must be defended at all costs
No charges will be filed against a White police officer who fatally shot a Black security guard at a suburban Chicago bar in 2018
The victim's name is Jemel Roberson.
But no, of course, the police must be defended at all costs
No charges will be filed against a White police officer who fatally shot a Black security guard at a suburban Chicago bar in 2018
ska invita
back on the other side
A little step back in time to the good old days before Trump, when US presidents were better - in this case Reagan - just read about this incident, never heard of it before
US state forces dropped a bomb, and got 500 heavily armed troops to fire 10,000 rounds of ammunition in the rough direction of where black anarchist liberation group MOVE were based - taking out an entire block
en.wikipedia.org
www.theguardian.com
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Why Have So Many People Never Heard Of The MOVE Bombing?
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US state forces dropped a bomb, and got 500 heavily armed troops to fire 10,000 rounds of ammunition in the rough direction of where black anarchist liberation group MOVE were based - taking out an entire block
MOVE - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The day police bombed a city street: can scars of 1985 Move atrocity be healed?
An airstrike killed 11 people, including five children, in an assault on a Philadelphia black liberation group. Now a reconciliation effort is under way
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Why Have So Many People Never Heard Of The MOVE Bombing?
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Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
If they were as ridiculously overfunded, militarised and all armed to the teeth as the US police - yes, I would.
Defunding does not mean taking away all police funding.
It means diverting a proportion of that whacking great budget away from the police, and which address the root causes of all the issues, the police in America end up having to deal with, because other public services have ben so underfunded.
For instance; mental health projects, housing the homeless, womens' hostels and refuges, addiction treatment centres, youth services, community programmes. To name but a few.
All these are things to deal with a whole range of problems which the police should never, ever have to deal with, and which they are completely unqualified to deal with.
This way, we might just save a few lives as well, instead of the police ending those lives.
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Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
A little step back in time to the good old days before Trump, when US presidents were better - in this case Reagan - just read about this incident, never heard of it before
US state forces dropped a bomb, and got 500 heavily armed troops to fire 10,000 rounds of ammunition in the rough direction of where black anarchist liberation group MOVE were based - taking out an entire block
MOVE - Wikipedia
The day police bombed a city street: can scars of 1985 Move atrocity be healed?
An airstrike killed 11 people, including five children, in an assault on a Philadelphia black liberation group. Now a reconciliation effort is under way
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Why Have So Many People Never Heard Of The MOVE Bombing?
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IIRC, this event was the origin of the chant "The roof , the roof, the roof is on fire" subsequently made famous by teh bloodhound gang
ska invita
back on the other side
that is the kind of fact i like to know, thanks
theres a much earlier use of it in music, ill try and find it
This I think
full breakdown of the history here
The Roof Is On Fire: An Old School Rap Story : Song Writing
The story of "The Roof Is On Fire" and the block parties from back in the day, courtesy of an original member of Rock Master Scott and the Dynamic Three.
www.songfacts.com
Tune came out 2 years before the bombing, so may have been related post the fact somehow
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Yes. I definitely don't want more police. If funds are diverted from the police into other prevention work then this is good.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Don’t think so. I’ve never heard that version. It was all over early hip hop/freestyle/electro records. I think even The Orb got there first.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i see the supporters of the police have already been defunded or they'd not be in the humiliating position of just having lackwits defending them embarrassingly poorly
Indeliblelink
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A little step back in time to the good old days before Trump, when US presidents were better - in this case Reagan - just read about this incident, never heard of it before
US state forces dropped a bomb, and got 500 heavily armed troops to fire 10,000 rounds of ammunition in the rough direction of where black anarchist liberation group MOVE were based - taking out an entire block
MOVE - Wikipedia
The day police bombed a city street: can scars of 1985 Move atrocity be healed?
An airstrike killed 11 people, including five children, in an assault on a Philadelphia black liberation group. Now a reconciliation effort is under way
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Why Have So Many People Never Heard Of The MOVE Bombing?
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The documentary film "Let The Fire Burn" from 2013 is well worth watching.
A little step back in time to the good old days before Trump, when US presidents were better - in this case Reagan - just read about this incident, never heard of it before
US state forces dropped a bomb, and got 500 heavily armed troops to fire 10,000 rounds of ammunition in the rough direction of where black anarchist liberation group MOVE were based - taking out an entire block
MOVE - Wikipedia
The day police bombed a city street: can scars of 1985 Move atrocity be healed?
An airstrike killed 11 people, including five children, in an assault on a Philadelphia black liberation group. Now a reconciliation effort is under way
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Why Have So Many People Never Heard Of The MOVE Bombing?
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What does this incident 35 years ago have to do with this thread?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
A long and documented history of the ridiculously excessive use of force by law enforcement is not relevant? In a thread about civil unrest that broke out due to the ridiculously excessive use of force by law enforcement?
Please tell me you are making some kind of ill-considered joke.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Well of course BLM emerged fully formed like Athena from some antifa's head, or like someone sowing skeleton seeds
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Outraged that you seem blind to a never ending inherently brutal treatment of black Americans by the failed, international pariah that is the US, currently.
ska invita
back on the other side
this is what rage rage rage looks like:
killing and bombing and shooting 10000 rounds at innocent (black) people , including children
You're right, thats all that seems to matter: rage
-Can you not understand why people might have had enough of that rage directed against them?
From what I have observed the rioting and destruction has nothing to do with the brutal treatment of black people. It is anarchists using any excuse to get their kicks destroying and putting thousands out of work.
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