Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[inva]

No, what happened is that leftist gangs hijacked peaceful BLM protests and vandalized and looted a large portion of downtown.

The BLM actavists in Portland are a disgrace. Very few denounced the rioters.

Strange kind of hijacking

 

[existentialist]

I'd never heard of this guy but if he added right wing gangs such as the proud boys and patriot prayer, he'd have a point. Extreme left, extreme right.....mirror images of each other.

FFS

 

[Serge Forward]

On the far centre bingo card, we're just waiting for TomUS to start banging on about fucking horseshoes for the full set. Taps watch.

 

[existentialist]

Portland is an "anarchist jurisdiction" (for lack of a better term) unfortunately. I hate to agree with Barr on anything but I have seen who trashed the city I live in. It wasn't right wing gangs, it wasn't cops, it wasn't capitalist elites. It was left wing extremists and wimp liberal politicians who stood idly by and let it happen.

Oh, but you do love a label, don't you?

I can't quite work out if it's naievety and gullibility that causes you to swallow this bullshit whole and then regurgitate it - uncritically - at us, or whether you're another Marty1 type figure, just tweaking the noses of the libs.

Either way, it's not a good look. Nor is your apparent unwillingness to actually engage in the topic beyond repeatedly vomiting your (or someone's) nasty little shitty views all over the thread in a write-only kind of way.

 

[8ball]

On the far centre bingo card, we're just waiting for TomUS to start banging on about fucking horseshoes for the full set. Taps watch.

“Far centre”

 

[existentialist]

Portland is an "anarchist jurisdiction" (for lack of a better term) unfortunately. I hate to agree with Barr on anything but I have seen who trashed the city I live in. It wasn't right wing gangs, it wasn't cops, it wasn't capitalist elites. It was left wing extremists and wimp liberal politicians who stood idly by and let it happen.

I missed this the first time. Why are you using Trump language to describe cities? "Anarchist jurisdiction" is straight out of his playbook. This is looking rather more scummy than accidental, and you clearly lack the honesty to admit up front that you are, essentially, peddling the Trumpist narrative. That's not classy.

 

[TomUS]

I missed this the first time. Why are you using Trump language to describe cities? "Anarchist jurisdiction" is straight out of his playbook. This is looking rather more scummy than accidental, and you clearly lack the honesty to admit up front that you are, essentially, peddling the Trumpist narrative. That's not classy.

In this case the Trump language accurately describes Portland IMO and it's political leadership. The mayor, city council, county prosecutor, and governor did nothing to control the violence. By neglecting to act they allowed the downtown area as well as other areas to be trashed. They and the rioters handed Trump a campaign issue. He uses it constantly. I don't refrain from expressing opinions to avoid them coinciding with those of Trump no matter how much I detest him.

 

[NoXion]

In this case the Trump language accurately describes Portland IMO and it's political leadership. The mayor, city council, county prosecutor, and governor did nothing to control the violence. By neglecting to act they allowed the downtown area as well as other areas to be trashed. They and the rioters handed Trump a campaign issue. He uses it constantly. I don't refrain from expressing opinions to avoid them coinciding with those of Trump no matter how much I detest him.

What if the opinion is simply wrong? Biden is leading Trump in the polls as of writing this message, and it's a lead that's been slowly growing nationally since January.

You might argue that the polls have it wrong. Fair enough. But I think it's fair to say that Trump leaning so heavily on the "law and order" pulpit isn't turning out to be the slam dunk he might be hoping for.

What might in fact tip it for Trump is his brazen electoral interference, including installing his cronies to gut the USPS and thus disrupt postal voting. The Trump maladministration clearly aren't banking on being carried into a second term through false patriotism alone. Unlike you, they're thinking outside the rulebook of liberal electoralism.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

This is some scary shit. I'm against guns - but it looks like it's a good time for saft lefties and BLM folk to get armed.

Anti-racism protests in US call to arms for militia groups across political divide

Krishnan Guru-Murthy been meeting a group called the Three Percenters - and the country's biggest black militia, the NFAC

www.channel4.com

 

[spring-peeper]

from their website

We are NOT anti-government. In fact, we are very pro-government, so long as the government abides by the Constitution, doesn't overstep its bounds, and remains “for the people and by the people”. Our goal is to utilize the failsafes put in place by our founders to rein in an overreaching government and push back against tyranny. We are working to preserve the intent of our government as designed. We do not intend to implement our own government. There is often a misconception that we are wanting to overthrow the government. This is simply not true and a false rumor to try and paint our movement as anti-government.

We do not seek to incite a revolution. However, we will defend ourselves when necessary. We are not here to create violence. Violence should always be a last resort and even then should only be defensive in nature

3 PRINCIPLES OF THE THREE PERCENTERS
All Three Percenters must abide by the following principles. Anyone who cannot accept these principles as a self-imposed discipline are not welcome in this organization, nor should ever consider themselves a part of the Three Percent movement.

1. Moral Strength - Knowing what is right and wrong and acting accordingly. Being trustworthy, truthful, and holding high values and principles. Strength to stand up when something is morally wrong.

2. Physical Readiness - Physical readiness is defined as the ability to meet the physical demands of any task in order to accomplish the objective at hand. There are some III%ers that have disabilities that prevent them from meeting physical demands and for these there is an exception.

3. No First Use of Force - "Don't fire unless fired upon". We are not the aggressor nor antagonist. We are purely defensive and only as a last resort.

 

[two sheds]

4. If there's ANYBODY looking

 

[Nylock]

(1.) is suitably vague and open to interpretation.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

from their website

Yeah, and they're not just a bunch of guys running around playing Call of Duty in the woods.

 

[krtek a houby]

In this case the Trump language accurately describes Portland IMO and it's political leadership. The mayor, city council, county prosecutor, and governor did nothing to control the violence. By neglecting to act they allowed the downtown area as well as other areas to be trashed. They and the rioters handed Trump a campaign issue. He uses it constantly. I don't refrain from expressing opinions to avoid them coinciding with those of Trump no matter how much I detest him.

You, Tom, are an enemy of the people.

Sad.

 

[krtek a houby]

As expected, the cops got off & now the inevitable is playing out

Two officers shot during Breonna Taylor protests

 

[Idris2002]

This vice video lays out some stuff about a possible overlap between the shooting of Breonna Taylor, and the ongoing urban renewal (or gentrification?) of the wider area:



Vice is of course not the most reliable source in the world, but this vid does feature interviews with Taylor's lawyer and the Louisville mayor.

There's more stuff coming out that says she wasn't shot asleep in her bed, as I had initially thought. . . but it does seem to have been a less than professional job by the cops. Why did they switch their bodycams off before their raid for example?

If the allegations in that video are correct, there was a drive to "clean up" the area (for the benefit of residents, or for something else?) which could easily have contributed to an escalation of forcible policing by the cops, with the results we have seen on that night and since.

 

[Streathamite]

As expected, the cops got off & now the inevitable is playing out

Two officers shot during Breonna Taylor protests

Wanton fucking endangerment. ZERO justice.

 

[Yossarian]

As expected, the cops got off & now the inevitable is playing out

Two officers shot during Breonna Taylor protests

Three cops shoot at an unarmed Black woman and only the one who missed gets charged. And they wonder why people are angry enough to burn things.

 

[Pickman's model]

In this case the Trump language accurately describes Portland IMO and it's political leadership. The mayor, city council, county prosecutor, and governor did nothing to control the violence. By neglecting to act they allowed the downtown area as well as other areas to be trashed. They and the rioters handed Trump a campaign issue. He uses it constantly. I don't refrain from expressing opinions to avoid them coinciding with those of Trump no matter how much I detest him.

If you find your opinions coincide with those of djt (or dlt for that matter) something is wrong with your thinking

 

[DaveCinzano]

Three cops shoot at an unarmed Black woman and only the one who missed gets charged.

PRIVATE PROPERTY COULDA BEEN DAMAGED BY THOSE LOOSE ROUNDS GODDAMMIT

 

[Streathamite]

Even the useless Dems in Congrass are weighing in on the Breonna Taylor case and slating the Grand Jury> That's pretty unusual

 

[petee]

happens every day, part of the plan of endless threat.
just posting a periodic reminder.

He was shot in Kenosha, then received threats – a frightening pattern after high-profile incidents

Victims of the Kenosha protest shootings and their families have received online threats, and there is little authorities can do to help.

news.yahoo.com

Gaige Grosskreutz wasn’t even out of the hospital when his phone started blowing up. Shot point blank in the arm with an AR-15, he was the only person to survive a triple shooting at a protest condemning the shooting of Jacob Blake by Kenosha police in Wisconsin.

Weeks later, the messages haven't stopped. Although some are encouraging, most are ugly, even threatening. In some corners of the internet, Grosskreutz, 26, has become the target of angry white supremacists who say he and others who support Black Lives Matter should be stopped by any means necessary – including homicide.

His family and friends – people who didn't protest in Kenosha – got frightening messages, too. Strangers showed up at their homes to find out "what really happened" the night Grosskreutz was shot.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Comments on the new taser shields being deployed by cops in Memphis went almost immediately from oh my that's terrible! to yas boi now how we going to fuck these dicks up hmm? in approximately ten seconds. Now it's just a long list of suggestions on what to spray, throw, thrust or fire at cops with these things - truly heart warming

 

[spring-peeper]

Tried googling taser shield and not getting too many options.

However, google suggested I may be interested in:

thor shield fabric
thor shield clothing
taser-proof clothing for sale
how to beat a taser gun

It's like a whole side of life that I didn't even know existed.


eta:The Use of Less Lethal Weapons in Corrections – Part 3 Electronic Control Devices

 

[TomUS]

If you find your opinions coincide with those of djt (or dlt for that matter) something is wrong with your thinking

Not necessarily. Even the most dangerous and obnoxious politicians can be agreed with on certain issues by reasonble opponents. To reflexively oppose everything the Trump side says is not thinking logically. I's reacting ideologically. I genuinely think the political leadership of my city, county and state were and are wimpy and incompetent in dealing with the violence. They knuckled under to mob/gang rule. This negligence resulted in pointless destruction and made the economic comeback of downtown much more difficult. All that translates into far higher unemployment than would have otherwise been the case.

 

[krtek a houby]

Not necessarily. Even the most dangerous and obnoxious politicians can be agreed with on certain issues by reasonble opponents. To reflexively oppose everything the Trump side says is not thinking logically. I's reacting ideologically. I genuinely think the political leadership of my city, county and state were and are wimpy and incompetent in dealing with the violence. They knuckled under to mob/gang rule. This negligence resulted in pointless destruction and made the economic comeback of downtown much more difficult. All that translates into far higher unemployment than would have otherwise been the case.

Teargassing not enough for you?

 

[existentialist]

Teargassing not enough for you?

Gotta nail those "Antifa" good and proper

 

[TomUS]

Teargassing not enough for you?

Our wimp mayor has forbidden the cops to use teargas. Just another example of his wimpishness.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

You want the police to use teargas on protesters.

Have. A. Fucking. Word. With. Yourself.

 

[existentialist]

Our wimp mayor has forbidden the cops to use teargas. Just another example of his wimpishness.

Yes, I expect you would like a "tough" mayor. One who cracks down on people and things you don't like. You know, really cracks down. Because, after all, the end always justifies the means.

Right?