Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)
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gosub
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There was no way it isn't going to be one of the most contentious trials in American history. In my view, staying on scene and informing other protesters of the first aid aspects of his role, when he had already gunned down one protester, was incendiary. If I was an Illinois' juror (for it is they alone whom decide) I would want to know whom he called on his mobile. The world will be watching, of that I have no doubt, but that is all we will be doing. It may also be of note that Militia Acts of 1792 would not have allowed for the involvement of 17 year olds. The 'gentleman' whom organised said Kenosha Guard, that considered himself capable of 'setting the bounds'should, I would have thought, also face some mechanism of accountability.Not good.
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and from the tweet just underneath this we find more info about the law firm:
Lawyers planning to defend the suspected Kenosha gunman run a right-wing organization that brings 'lawsuits to stop the lies and smears of the radical left'
Lawyers behind the #FightBack Foundation planning to defend Kyle Rittenhouse have also represented Covington Catholic teen Nick Sandmann and Carter Page.www.insider.com
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
the Welsh lack of Farages is also to be welcomed, and remarkable given we have a sad history of being invaded by his ilk
gosub
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97 episodes is quite alotquantum leaps are actually very small
sorry, just sayin
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF I'd be amazed if that wasnt a 911 call, given what he had done and his apparent fascination with cops.
gosub
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
not much of a mystery with this one
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Don't disagree with that at all (in fact, MLK was absolutely an economic radical) - I just didn't want the thread to get derailed
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't think it's such a derail. Discussion about what BLM means to those protesting, and what it can then be taken to mean by those seeking to coopt the cause (sports organisations, corporations, political parties, etc), inevitably has to include exactly how you address the structural roots of racism. The process by which attempts are made to steal BLM from those who started it so that it can be sold back to them in a neutered form has already begun. And that that can happen at many different levels - from the cynical corporations seeking to monetise the situation to the individual police chief, who is well-meaning enough in his expression of solidarity, but who perhaps unintentionally ends up taking over and dictating terms. We've seen it here with Keir Starmer presuming to lecture people about what BLM means.
The study was widely reported at the time. A google search is difficult because you get a lot of unhelpful stuff nothing to do with the subject, but for example:
People with Norman names wealthier than other Britons
People with "Norman" surnames like Darcy and Mandeville are still wealthier than the general population 1,000 years after their descendants conquered Britain, according to a study into social progress.
www.telegraph.co.uk
People with Norman surnames more likely to get into Oxbridge
When William the Conqueror’s nobles were hewing and skewering Saxons at the Battle of Hastings, it is probable that they did not give much thought to the educational prospects of their descendants
www.thetimes.co.uk
And clearly related but with a different spin:
If you're named Darcy, you're likely to be one of the privileged rich
Ideas of social mobility under challenge as study shows descendants of 19th-century wealthy have kept their class advantages
souljacker
innit
Something that also hasn't been explained as far as I can see is how the fuck did a 17 year old have an AR? I think in some states you are allowed rifles and shotguns but surely not ARs? He should have been nicked from the moment he turned up and everyone in the militia who knew he was there should be charged as an accesory.
But he won't because America is fucking bonkers.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Both evasive about how they found urban.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
A step in the right direction?
www.cnn.com
Basic background, covered in link, is that that Steven Taylor, 33, threatened the officer with a baseball bat that he was trying to steal.
A White officer is charged in the fatal shooting of a Black man under California's tougher deadly-force law | CNN
A White officer has been charged with felony manslaughter in the fatal shooting in April of a Black man in a Walmart store, a crime alleged under a newly strengthened California law that requires police to use deadly force only when needed to defend human life, the county prosecutor said.
Basic background, covered in link, is that that Steven Taylor, 33, threatened the officer with a baseball bat that he was trying to steal.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Suspect in Portland killing of far-right protester 'shot dead' by US marshals
Federal and local officers were trying to arrest Michael Forest Reinoehl, 48, on an arrest warrant, says sheriff’s office
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Poor Nigel Farage.
In his fantasies he's really a Falange.
Expect more killings until Portland city, county and state politicians get things under control.Suspect in Portland killing of far-right protester 'shot dead' by US marshals
Federal and local officers were trying to arrest Michael Forest Reinoehl, 48, on an arrest warrant, says sheriff’s officewww.theguardian.com
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Expect more killings until an unhinged narcissist is finally ejected and no longer able to deploy groups of unaccountable thugs to keep the pot on the boil.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Meanwhile, what's going on here? And what does he hope to replace training with?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/04/white-house-racial-sensitivity-training/
President Trump is moving to revamp federal agencies’ racial sensitivity trainings, casting some of them as “divisive” and “un-American,” according to a memo by the White House Office of Management and Budget.
In the two-page memo, OMB Director Russell Vought says Trump has asked him to prevent federal agencies from spending millions in taxpayer dollars on these training sessions. Vought says OMB will instruct federal agencies to come up with a list of all contracts related to training sessions involving “white privilege” or “critical race theory,” and do everything possible within the law to cancel those contracts, the memo states.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/04/white-house-racial-sensitivity-training/
President Trump is moving to revamp federal agencies’ racial sensitivity trainings, casting some of them as “divisive” and “un-American,” according to a memo by the White House Office of Management and Budget.
In the two-page memo, OMB Director Russell Vought says Trump has asked him to prevent federal agencies from spending millions in taxpayer dollars on these training sessions. Vought says OMB will instruct federal agencies to come up with a list of all contracts related to training sessions involving “white privilege” or “critical race theory,” and do everything possible within the law to cancel those contracts, the memo states.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
We could do with a miracle
No. What struck me was the courage of the woman who refused to be bullied into raising her fist. This demand for absolute conformity of thought is totalitarian.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
do you stand for your national anthem?
just sorta wondering
also wondering if you had to did the pledge of allegiance in School
I haven't had an occasion to stand for the national anthem recently. I recited the pledge of allegiance in school and didn't like it. I'd like to turn back the clock and refuse.do you stand for your national anthem?
just sorta wondering
also wondering if you had to did the pledge of allegiance in School
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
you know your country is quite jingoistic, and the way it expresses itself along these lines
but you here now complaining about people trying to use a symbol as a sign of support in protest over how your legal system discriminates against a portion of your population
most of your complaints seem to come from issues with the property damage
and you are claiming totalitarian behaviour,
from the protesters
are you fucking high?
but you here now complaining about people trying to use a symbol as a sign of support in protest over how your legal system discriminates against a portion of your population
most of your complaints seem to come from issues with the property damage
and you are claiming totalitarian behaviour,
from the protesters
are you fucking high?
Last night in my city a gang of rioters attempted to attack a police station and threw Molotov cocktails at the cops. I fail to see how this behavior helps black people in any way. Do you think this violence advances the cause of civil rights? And the property damage I've discussed destroys the work places of ordinary people. Causing unemployment is another strange way to help black people.
Tensions at Portland protest flare Saturday after Molotov cocktails tossed near police blocking march route
One person was injured after the flames from the devices spread to their pants and shoes.
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