Implications for the rest of us if Scotland votes yes

[8ball]

Glaciers do move by increments but they take a very very long time to get anywhere. Most of us are dead and buried by the time they move a few miles.

EVERYTHING moves by increments!!

With the possible exceptions of tachyons, bad news and Bob Mortimer.

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[Pickman's model]

i suppose there are quite a few scots (albeit doubtless a minority) who want the union but don't want further devolution, yet everything coming from the 'no' camp seems to be 'if you don't want independence then we'll thrust devo max down your throats'.

 

[ibilly99]

We should never have given the Stone of Scone back to Scotland with that historic gesture like the Ring of the Nibelungens the English seceeded their power for perpuity. If the Scots really want to hammer the point home they should steal the Ravens at the Tower for a final Celtic fuck you gesture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone

 

[danny la rouge]

The Magic Rock gave us back our mojo.

Got my mojo workin!

 

[futurereal]

We should never have given the Stone of Scone back to Scotland with that historic gesture like the Ring of the Nibelungens the English seceeded their power for perpuity. If the Scots really want to hammer the point home they should steal the Ravens at the Tower for a final Celtic fuck you gesture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Scone

Ahh but the real coronation stone of the Kings of England is in ..... Kingston Upon Thames.

Time to get that thing back to Parliament and embue its power to the English football team!

 

[ibilly99]

Ahh but the real coronation stone of the Kings of England is in ..... Kingston Upon Thames.

Time to get that thing back to Parliament and embue its power to the English football team!

 

[ibilly99]

Maybe the Archbishop should wade in and tell us what God wants. According to the Fail he has a tartan streak but as he is answerable to the Queen who whatever she publically denies wants the Union - so maybe he should get out his old Magick book and start rubbing that stone what else have we left what with Gordon Brown , the Saltire on No 10 and the terrible three hot footing it across the border.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ks-inflaming-independence-debate-comment.html

There is a legitimate descendant of the last Scottish king
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria

"If they did so, they could invite the man regarded by some as James’s legitimate heir, the ‘Stuart Pretender’, to replace the English Queen. That would mean the present Duke of Bavaria becoming King Francis II of Scotland. However, Duke Franz claims to be perfectly content where he is."

 

[krink]

every time somebody says 'devo max' i get this stuck in my head

 

[futurereal]

Maybe the Archbishop should wade in and tell us what God wants. According to the Fail he has a tartan streak but as he is answerable to the Queen who whatever she publically denies wants the Union - so maybe he should get out his old Magick book and start rubbing that stone what else have we left what with Gordon Brown , the Saltire on No 10 and the terrible three hot footing it across the border.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ks-inflaming-independence-debate-comment.html

There is a legitimate descendant of the last Scottish king
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz,_Duke_of_Bavaria

"If they did so, they could invite the man regarded by some as James’s legitimate heir, the ‘Stuart Pretender’, to replace the English Queen. That would mean the present Duke of Bavaria becoming King Francis II of Scotland. However, Duke Franz claims to be perfectly content where he is."

Well Duke Franz sounds a lot better than Michel Roger Lafosse's claim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Roger_Lafosse

 

[redsquirrel]

Up here at the moment and everyone I've spoken to/heard talking about it is laughing like a drain at the 'fly a saltire and make the Scots feel loved' nonsense (including DKs and Nos). Yet another masterstroke from the No camp.

You wonder if the BT leadership are some sort of undercover YES supporters. You expect ineptness but this level of ineptness is amazing.

 

[ibilly99]

Well if Salmond says he wants to keep the Monarchy then he might as well go back to a legitimate pre-Union heir.

And could this be repeated ?

 

[Idaho]

I was fairly ambivalent about it all. But the number of idiots and politicians that are freaking out about it is making me desperately hope for a yes vote.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

That's like saying Pol Pot was better than Hitler.

Well, was that the first Godwin of the Scottish independence debate?

 

[DotCommunist]

Well, was that the first Godwin of the Scottish independence debate?

no, some quarters have been calling salmond a nazi for ages

 

[goldenecitrone]

From judging in the two pubs where I watched the football tonight a yes vote may well accentuate a sense of Englishness here lol.

I went to live in Slovakia in January 1993, just after Czechoslovakia split up into two countries. Different background to ours, but there was a massive rise in nationalism amongst Czechs and Slovaks. I was surprised at the venom they started to spit at each other. Maybe it had always existed though.

 

[spring-peeper]

I went to live in Slovakia in January 1993, just after Czechoslovakia split up into two countries. Different background to ours, but there was a massive rise in nationalism amongst Czechs and Slovaks. I was surprised at the venom they started to spit at each other. Maybe it had always existed though.

I found the same thing during the Quebec referendum.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

While the Scotch folk have always been so charming and polite towards their southern neighbours, I can't see that changing.

 

[mauvais]

DYK: if we declare English independence right now, we could be legally rid of our three top idiots forever, under a hitherto unknown constitutional amendment of The Magna Carta entitled 'Ye Olde Mufical Chairf Rulef'.

 

[newbie]

so Standard Life inform customers that their money will continue to be held under BoE rules, rather than in a foreign country under foreign rules. I presume other Scottish based financial institutions with a UK wide customer base will do the same.

 

[Idaho]

Why not give it a little time to see how it works. I would imagine that there will be a transition process in the event of a yes vote, rather than a sudden sealing of the borders and rounding up of honest English folk.

 

[newbie]

of course, about 18 months if the provisional timetable works, though whether that will affect capital flight/runs on banks/attacking sterling, that sort of thing, is anyones guess.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Why not give it a little time to see how it works. I would imagine that there will be a transition process in the event of a yes vote, rather than a sudden sealing of the borders and rounding up of honest English folk.

that would be sensible. however it is clear that sensible is not part of the campaign.

 

[DotCommunist]

why on earth would there be capital flight from a yes scotland? even the CBI know it'll be more or less bizz as usual. It's not a red dawn or a civil war ffs

 

[likesfish]

Considering they cocked up the parliment building and glasgow tram independence has all the makings of a complete disaster with all the top flight brains in westminster "helping"

 

[8ball]

why on earth would there be capital flight from a yes scotland? even the CBI know it'll be more or less bizz as usual. It's not a red dawn or a civil war ffs

Currency uncertainty will be a big one, but the main thing is often the fear of uncertainty itself.

 

[Idaho]

of course, about 18 months if the provisional timetable works, though whether that will affect capital flight/runs on banks/attacking sterling, that sort of thing, is anyones guess.

It won't make that much difference. This is getting a bit hysterical.

 

[el-ahrairah]

why on earth would there be capital flight from a yes scotland? even the CBI know it'll be more or less bizz as usual. It's not a red dawn or a civil war ffs

there absolutely won't be. it's deliberate scaremongering, innit.

 

[IC3D]

An English boycott of Angus Steak Houses will hit the Scots hard, imagine rows of empty seats every day.

 

[kebabking]

its a well used joke at the moment, but New Years Eve won't be featuring the words 'Jools Holland' and 'Hogmanay'...

we won't have to pretend to like Robert Burn's poetry, or indeed understand a word he wrote.

we can finally repay, in spades, the delightful 'anyone but England' sporting banter/vitriol of our dear cousins across the Tweed.

i mean theres loads of stuff about debt, currency, infrastructure, defence, trade, immigration and all that stuff, but lets concentrate on the important bits.

 

[Tankus]

I'd like to hope the Scots would be up for a Welsh / Scots union

Oh god ....no ......just no .....