Immigration Street

[The39thStep]

Anyone see this? Couldn't find a thread on it.

Love Productions ( now there's a name for you) who lied and defamed a local community in order to make Benefit Street tried to do the same in Southampton with a proposed series called Immigration Street. Much to there indignation and surprise , according to their documentary , local residents boycotted their 'opportunity to explore the contribution that immigrants make in a community' and ran them out of the area with a very effective campaign. Their indignation that local people might not want to put the reputation and cohesion of their community before the CVs of a load of middle class media careerists should be put in some form of context . Previously the same company were also run out of a local community in the North East when they tried to film another programme.

Despite trying to push what they thought were two typical white large blokes with bald heads into saying something that could be labelled as racist they miserably failed. Most people they interviewed , the number of which dwindled dramatically, just said yes it's mixed but by and large we get on. The producer turned up at a local residents meeting and was firmly told to stop filming and get out. Which after a very effective community boycott they did.

Great pity that somebody doesn't give the residents the rest of the budget for the proposed series so they could make their own programme about the campaign rather than us having to sit through the Self righteous bleating of the supposed right of the media to do what they want to do where they want to at the expense of local communities.

 

[DotCommunist]

I didn't see it but I remember facepalming at the time it was touted as in production. Good on the residents fucking these parasites off

 

[5t3IIa]

I watched it last night. Disingenuous producer repeating "But the word 'immigration' is positive!" and pretending that reams of STOP IMMIGRATION headlines and the title Immigration Street has absolutely nothing to do with each other. Ugh.

The Romanian's Are Coming was much better

 

[peterkro]

I just watched on 4OD good on the locals for fucking them off.
By the way why are there shows like this and not something like "parasitic middle class wankers street".
Don't get me started on dodgy builders,where the fuck are the programs on dodgy lawyers,estate agents,councillors,buy to rent landlords and so on and so on?
(this is of course a rhetorical question I know very well why there aren't any)

 

[Brainaddict]

Tory Voter Street: watch bankers, landlords and low-grade CEOs in one of High Wycombe's most desirable streets abuse their servants, destroy their familes and struggle to get planning permission to build their swimming pools. I'd watch that.

 

[5t3IIa]

Been done, lads http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/feb/21/immigration-street-reality-tv

TROLL STREET
Jumping on the craze that’s sweeping the nation – talking smack for absolutely no reason on the internet and driving people to their very wits’ end – producers embark on Troll Street, an experiment in making fedora-clad nerds in neckbeards talk to each other with their mouths. The test is an unmitigated disaster: polite to the point of shyness on the few occasions they bump into each other in the street as they make a run to the shops for Wotsits and Dr Pepper, the trolls only rip into each other online, ordering pizzas to each others’ houses and calling each other shitlords on 4Chan. With much of the action taking place onscreen, producers are forced to set up cameras pointed directly at cheese dust-sprinkled keyboards, and a succession of editors quit after having to excise hour upon hour of masturbation footage. Wank-free, the show’s a flop.

 

[youngian]

I just watched on 4OD good on the locals for fucking them off.
By the way why are there shows like this and not something like "parasitic middle class wankers street".
Don't get me started on dodgy builders,where the fuck are the programs on dodgy lawyers,estate agents,councillors,buy to rent landlords and so on and so on?
(this is of course a rhetorical question I know very well why there aren't any)

LIkewise you could ask why Jeremy Kyle is not full of coked up TV producers having tacky affairs instead of going home to their wife and kids. People who have had less contact with the media and their MO are easier to flatter and con into making these programmes. Or once were, from what I saw of this programme the residents saw them coming. Good on them.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Despite trying to push what they thought were two typical white large blokes with bald heads into saying something that could be labelled as racist they miserably failed.

it was embarrasing to watch the blokes have to justify why they are not racist- the assumption being that cos they were WC shaven headed/ big brits, they were somehow racist by default.

 

[The39thStep]

it was embarrasing to watch the blokes have to justify why they are not racist- the assumption being that cos they were WC shaven headed/ big brits, they were somehow racist by default.

absolutely and terrible that people have to think that they have to watch what they say about immigration unless they are labelled racist.Plays into he hands of UKIP and the far right

 

[BigMoaner]

absolutely and terrible that people have to think that they have to watch what they say about immigration unless they are labelled racist.Plays into he hands of UKIP and the far right

whether people like it or not, whether it's racist or not, i would guess the vast majority of people in the uk want to see immigration at lower, more controlled levels. nearly every working class labour voter i know says the same, for example. it is only the far, hard left and the libertarian, business-minded right who would rather more rather than less migrants.

if someone said we have slowed migration from the 100s of ks to the 10s of k, i wouldn't at this moment complain.

 

[binka]

watched it found it amusing how it turned into a 'poor us, we just want to give these people a voice' whinge by the production company. only there with the best of intentions of course. would have liked to have heard more from rafique - the shop owner / slum landlord - he seemed a real cunt.

 

[twentythreedom]

Channel 5's "Life On The Dole" was even more toxic and nasty

 

[killer b]

it is only the far, hard left and the libertarian, business-minded right who would rather more rather than less migrants.

I'm not sure if the far, hard left want 'more migrants'. Or that there's even a consensus about this across the far, hard left (famously there isn't on almost every other topic).

 

[8115]

whether people like it or not, whether it's racist or not, i would guess the vast majority of people in the uk want to see immigration at lower, more controlled levels. nearly every working class labour voter i know says the same, for example. it is only the far, hard left and the libertarian, business-minded right who would rather more rather than less migrants.

if someone said we have slowed migration from the 100s of ks to the 10s of k, i wouldn't at this moment complain.

Why not?

People who were not born in this country pay in proportionally more in taxes than they take out in welfare compared to people born here (can't remember the source but it's an oft cited stat, I'll try and find a source if possible). Immigration brings cultural benefits, best of all it dilutes the number of racist idiots in this country. What's not to like?

I'm being a bit flippant there, but honestly, I have worked with a lot of people from other countries, I have absolutely no problem with immigration at the level it's at.

 

[nino_savatte]

whether people like it or not, whether it's racist or not, i would guess the vast majority of people in the uk want to see immigration at lower, more controlled levels. nearly every working class labour voter i know says the same, for example. it is only the far, hard left and the libertarian, business-minded right who would rather more rather than less migrants.

if someone said we have slowed migration from the 100s of ks to the 10s of k, i wouldn't at this moment complain.

"The vast majority"? Have you got some figures for that?

But this word "migrants"... have you ever moved house or gone to another town or city to take up employment? If you have, then you're a migrant.

How about the 1m Brits who live in Spain? Should they all be repatriated back to this country?

All animals migrate and that includes humans. Stopping people from migrating is little like stopping people from breathing or doing anything else people do. If you lived in a country that had been ravaged by war or natural disaster (like famine) what would you do? Stay and die? Have a think about that.

 

[BigMoaner]

"The vast majority"? Have you got some figures for that?

no, hence why i said it was a guess.

But this word "migrants"... have you ever moved house or gone to another town or city to take up employment? If you have, then you're a migrant.

okay, that's how you define it. but i am talking about migration between countries

How about the 1m Brits who live in Spain? Should they all be repatriated back to this country?

no. who said anything about repatriation?

All animals migrate and that includes humans. Stopping people from migrating is little like stopping people from breathing or doing anything else people do. If you lived in a country that had been ravaged by war or natural disaster (like famine) what would you do? Stay and die? Have a think about that.

do you believe a country has a right to control its borders? how about if rich English people migrated to a poor country that didn't want them. that's okay to you? why is it other countries have rights to control their borders but people like you want to open ours up?

 

[BigMoaner]

i didn't say to "repatriate anyone".

i didn't say to stop immigration totally.

just to slow it down for a bit, not for ever.

 

[nino_savatte]

You've included your reply in the quote. But you've not engaged with my points. Instead, you've ranted about controlling borders.

 

[nino_savatte]

i didn't say to "repatriate anyone".

i didn't say to stop immigration totally.

just to slow it down for a bit, not for ever.

No, but the implication is there all the same. Is there any chance you could actually engage with my points?

This is the most important point of all.

All animals migrate and that includes humans. Stopping people from migrating is little like stopping people from breathing or doing anything else people do. If you lived in a country that had been ravaged by war or natural disaster (like famine) what would you do?

By the way, people who flee wars used to be called 'refugees' not 'migrants'. Language is power.

 

[BigMoaner]

Ok - your "most important point of all" - of course people should be able to flee countries where they are ravaged by war and disarster. what has that got to do with my point of controlling immigration?

any other "really important" points you want me to engage with?

how about this one from me - do countries have the right to control their borders?

 

[belboid]

if someone said we have slowed migration from the 100s of ks to the 10s of k, i wouldn't at this moment complain.

you wouldn't give a shit about how they'd made such a reduction?

And the majority of people - labour voters included - support free movement within the EU (if the alternative was leaving the EU - a third do so whatever)

 

[nino_savatte]

Ok - your "most important point of all" - of course people should be able to flee countries where they are ravaged by war and disarster. what has that got to do with my point of controlling immigration?

You just don't want them in this country. Be honest.

any other "really important" points you want me to engage with?

Read my post instead of asking me to repeat myself. You actually cherry-picked one to suit your narrative.

how about this one from me - do countries have the right to control their borders?

This presupposes three things: one, that countries (which country do you have in mind?) don't have border controls (they do); two, there are armies of 'migrants' landing on these shores each day like some kind of invading force and third, the country is 'crowded'.

I find your obsession with borders rather disturbing.

 

[BigMoaner]

You just don't want them in this country. Be honest.

what on earth are you talking about? who are "them"? you don't know me, so don't be presumptuous.

Read my post instead of asking me to repeat myself. You actually cherry-picked one to suit your narrative.

i've answered all your questions. about the spanish repatriation thing, about the migration into different towns, and your really important one about natural disasters and famine. am i missing anything?

This presupposes three things: one, that countries (which country do you have in mind?) don't have border controls (they do); two, there are armies of 'migrants' landing on these shores each day like some kind of invading force and third, the country is 'crowded'.

it doesn't presuppose anything. it's a simple question - if a country has a border, should they have the right to control it? i think they do, including the amount of numbers. do you? yes or no, will do.

I find your obsession with borders rather disturbing.

good for you

 

[BigMoaner]

and what on earth is "my narrative"?

 

[belboid]

learn how to use the fucking quote function properly

 

[BigMoaner]

"This presupposes three things: one, that countries (which country do you have in mind?) don't have border controls (they do); two, there are armies of 'migrants' landing on these shores each day like some kind of invading force and third, the country is 'crowded'.

you have presupposed all of that because i said that we should perhaps slow immigration rates into this country? you're very vain, no?

 

[BigMoaner]

learn how to use the fucking quote function properly

no, fuck off.

 

[nino_savatte]

and what on earth is "my narrative"?

Duh

 

[BigMoaner]

Duh

as far as i can tell, that's not "my narrative."

what's my narrative?

 

[nino_savatte]

"This presupposes three things: one, that countries (which country do you have in mind?) don't have border controls (they do); two, there are armies of 'migrants' landing on these shores each day like some kind of invading force and third, the country is 'crowded'.

you have presupposed all of that because i said that we should perhaps slow immigration rates into this country? you're very vain, no?

I've presupposed nothing. As for me being "vain", what the fuck are you talking about?

You're a returning poster, aren't you?