'I'm a Photographer not a terrorist!' demo

[Stanley Edwards]

But that kind of harassment of innocent photographers is exactly what is happening.

That's why hundreds of them turned up on Saturday and why it's becoming a growing civil rights issue.
...

I accept that. Some police are just twats. The huge rise in the popularity of photography due to digital cameras has just given arsey, or stupid police more opportunities.

As for Fogbat's response; I have experienced it. One single time during Thousands of hours. I also accept (as Paul points out) I haven't been photographing on the streets in the UK for several years now. Photography has become far more popular in that time, therefore the occurence of police intervention will have increased relatively.

 

[sim667]

you know the links/pics aint working OP?

 

[cybertect]

I just found out. My server's gone offline for reasons unknown at the moment.

 

[stowpirate]

I just found out. My server's gone offline for reasons unknown at the moment.

I told you so, those Bus photos were your undoing

 

[derf]

How many terrorists have actually been nabbed while taking photos?

Fuck all I expect.

 

[derf]

I will correct myself, one that I can find but I don't know if he was actually an extremist.
Wonder how many people have been accused using this case as an excuse.

 

[stowpirate]

I will correct myself, one that I can find but I don't know if he was actually an extremist.
Wonder how many people have been accused using this case as an excuse.

"City of London Police have released chilling footage recorded on one man's mobile phone as he travelled around the capital."

Not even a real photographer as it was mobile footage.

What does that work out as a percentage of the total number of mobile phones in the UK?

 

[19sixtysix]

How much I want one what is the output resolution and maximum iso rating? Does it also record sound so when you are stopped you can get some mug shots of the police and detailed record of any conversation come confrontation.

It was an easyjet catalogue. Not a photography magazine. No details at all. I think you need to look on the internet.

 

[bemused]

I actually saw a guy sitting taking pictures of buses get questioned by a PCSO about taking pictures. The Bus spotter got sufficiently arsy about it until the PSCO just wandered off. It was funny to watch but a bit worrying.

 

[e19896]

It isn't, but if that is all the issue is about I suspect you wouldn't be so bothered about it.

Stan I understand where you coming from, but this is not a fuss over nothing the Police are taking the piss, and I know those involved very well not the kind of people to kick up a fuss for nothing, in my case I can understand why the Police might stop me as an urban explorer I do take photography to another level, this said a lot of people being stoped are just taking snaps and a ITN crew was stoped of late.

 

[abe11825]

i understand everyone's points about PSCO and Police taking the piss out of photography, but they're just doing a job.

Then again, nothing in history wouldn't be documented if no one would take a photo. Think about how many times you read a history book or watch a documentary, and a random picture gets brought up about a memorable moment in time? if that wasn't snapped, we'd not learn from it. one man's "souvenir" is another's history. sounds stupid i know. but how many times do we take pictures of our surroundings, and years later, look back on it and remember exactly what we were thinking that day?

we can learn alot from pictures. it's like they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words". and it's true. so if the fuzz want to destroy it, then i think we need to find a better way to protect our civil liberties.

I've got albums of protests, public / governmental buildings, houses, offices, life, etc. I'm using them as keepsakes for that point in my life. and if the government or police think i'm acting on terrorism, then something's wrong cos there's larger shit to deal with then me snapping film in front of the war building...

 

[bemused]

i understand everyone's points about PSCO and Police taking the piss out of photography, but they're just doing a job.

I'm normally pro-Police but when you see some examples where they use these powers which they know where brought in as anti-terrorist measures I have to question their judgement. For example of Gemma Atkinson who was detained and searched under the anti terrorism act because she filmed her boyfriends stop and search.

 

[toggy]

I accept that. Some police are just twats. The huge rise in the popularity of photography due to digital cameras has just given arsey, or stupid police more opportunities.

I have to point out that in my experience over the last 20 years the abundance of twat coppers, hobby bobbies, security guards, CSOs, PCSOs SIA dickheads , has increased exponentially and can be directly correlated to the privatisation of policing in general and the lowering of entry requirements into all of those industries; and they are industries, not services.

I've been toe to toe with constables, sergeants and inspectors over my right to take photographs in a public place - at news events - and I've been threatened with arrest on numerous occasions, sometimes for merely standing on the road and not the pavement 4" behind me, under the auspices that the non existent cars on the empty roads - empty because they have been closed by the police -might run me over and the police officer may be held responsible for my injuries.

My quip that the officer would be making history went down like the proverbial lead balloon.

I don't know you from Adam, Stanley Edwards, but on this subject you're not only out of touch you're also wrong.

 

[stowpirate]

http://lbc.co.uk/childrens-tv-stars-face-anti-terror-quiz--19344

interesting news story

 

[abe11825]

http://lbc.co.uk/childrens-tv-stars-face-anti-terror-quiz--19344

interesting news story

holy shit... that's fucked up.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

What do you expect. It is a terrestrial programme. PC Plod won't Know the difference.

The morning programme, which provides light-hearted links in between cartoons such as Ben 10: Alien Force and Dork Hunters From Outer Space, attracts around 616,000 viewers each weekend morning, making it the most popular terrestrial programme of its kind.

Beware of terrestrialists. It is worse in America. As a result of George Bushes way of speaking they are nervous of tourists.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't know you from Adam, Stanley Edwards, but on this subject you're not only out of touch you're also wrong.

and not only on this subject

 

[Pickman's model]

i understand everyone's points about PSCO and Police taking the piss out of photography, but they're just doing a job

he was just doing his job.

are all jobs worth doing?

 

[stowpirate]

Can the kids go out and play cowboys and Indians with their toy cap guns and bows and arrows? Will the cavalry then turn up in force and take them into custardy?

 

[Paul Russell]

http://lbc.co.uk/childrens-tv-stars-face-anti-terror-quiz--19344

interesting news story

Good link. Sounds like a good programme as well -- might check that out.

 

[stowpirate]

The whole issue is turning into a Monty Pyhon farce. Mr String's TV ads just about sums up the situation for all involved and I would guess that they will get a few complaints about terrorist overtones at the advertising standards.....

http://cheestrings.co.uk/parents-info/TV-adverts.html

 

[abe11825]

he was just doing his job.

are all jobs worth doing?

In this case, no. It all depends on the situation, IMO.

Photography is an art form. It should not be banned or frowned upon. If people want to make an honest living taking film, or even doing it as a keepsake, then do it. The Fuzz should be focused on more important issues then someone taking an image of something.

 

[stowpirate]

In this case, no. It all depends on the situation, IMO.

Photography is an art form. It should not be banned or frowned upon. If people want to make an honest living taking film, or even doing it as a keepsake, then do it. The Fuzz should be focused on more important issues then someone taking an image of something.

It depends on if they have supporting evidence that the individual is up to no good. This recent swing to we are guilty of some crime culture does not sit well in a democracy. That freak Margaret Thatcher started the slide towards a totalitarian style democracy. However some people in particular George Orwell had identified the danger signs far earlier but unfortunately very few listened then or do now. Then throw in social changes like a society sinking into a virtual world controlled by mass media and entertainment . With a form of government that embraces the power of the media and flows with the ebbing tide of mass hysteria. I think you get my drift

 

[the_fonz]

Your Right to Film

Here's a short film about how photographers' and cinematographers' are interrupted without cause when filming in public, 'Freedom to Film', http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_003.html

 

[toggy]

Tidy film, sums it up nicely.