If you cant beat it , join it....says Elon Musk

[Baronage-Phase]

Elon Musk: Tesla founder reveals plans to implant tiny computer chips in brains

Elon Musk talking about using microchips in the brain to interface with AI and connect directly to other people with chips on their brains.
Says he is looking at how it could control disease and pain too.


He believes AI will be far more intelligent than mere humans soon and says "if you cant beat it..join it"

I'm not sure who will be getting these amazing chips. ... doubt I would want one. What say you?

 

[DotCommunist]

Mark of the Beast, imo

 

[weltweit]

I think he has a company working on this.

I am pretty sure it will happen, but I don't know when, not only will a human be connected to a computer and all that computing power, (and memory and the net) but humans could communicate brain to brain with other humans, a sort human and machine network.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

I think he has a company working on this.

I am pretty sure it will happen, but I don't know when, not only will a human be connected to a computer and all that computing power, (and memory and the net) but humans could communicate brain to brain with other humans, a sort human and machine network.

Yep.
That's what I took from the article too. Who wants to be connected brain to brain though?

 

[Steel Icarus]

He's a fucking loon.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

He's a fucking loon.

Aha. And he has done this with monkeys.
They were able to control a computer with the chip in their brain....in some way...dont ask me what they actually did. Maybe turned it on?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Wrote sonnets

 

[xenon]

Yeah. Patch me in.

 

[weltweit]

Yep.
That's what I took from the article too. Who wants to be connected brain to brain though?

We would have to dedicate some resources to the bits of our brains that were being shared with others and would gain other bits from others whose brains were being shared with us. Perhaps the computers could handle the networking business for us.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

We would have to dedicate some resources to the bits of our brains that were being shared with others and would gain other bits from others whose brains were being shared with us. Perhaps the computers could handle the networking business for us.

How would you stop the chip accessing all the natural neural networks in your brain?
And what if a computer virus hits?
Will someone be able to control the chip? What sort of control would that entail? And how would it impact on the chipped brain and individual...
I think it's scary.

 

[editor]

Yeah. Patch me in.

Me too. I want to live FOREEEEVER!

 

[weltweit]

How would you stop the chip accessing all the natural neural networks in your brain?
And what if a computer virus hits?
Will someone be able to control the chip? What sort of control would that entail? And how would it impact on the chipped brain and individual...
I think it's scary.

I don't know which bits would be of interest to others, probably not the bits associated with walking and talking and managing our bodies etc .. perhaps more the memory and thinking bits ..

I always imagined it would be bringing google (and the internet) as an addition to our brains own memory capacity. That said I am less impressed with google these days though.

I haven't thought about brain to brain action really. Needs some thinking about.

 

[planetgeli]

Someone's been watching too much "Years and Years".

 

[joustmaster]

I would totally get an implant that lets me hear high quality streamed sounds.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Imagine having the chip put in and random thoughts from a load of weirdos popping into your head.....

Oh..hang on

 

[weltweit]

Imagine having the chip put in and random thoughts from a load of weirdos popping into your head.....

Oh..hang on

I thought initially it would be like getting an Alexa / Echo implanted and being able to ask it questions more directly than we can at the moment.

 

[blairsh]

Alan Musk

 

[Crispy]

1. This is intended as an output device only. No thought implants.
2. This is very coarse. No reading minds.
3. This has been done before.
4. Just not with "soft" electrodes.
5. It could be a total revelation for people with brain or spinal damage.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Alan Musk

 

[Baronage-Phase]

1. This is intended as an output device only. No thought implants.
2. This is very coarse. No reading minds.
3. This has been done before.
4. Just not with "soft" electrodes.
5. It could be a total revelation for people with brain or spinal damage.

Is it possible that his could be used as input also?

 

[Crispy]

Is it possible that his could be used as input also?

For "telepathy" we'd need a revolutionary understanding of how the mind works. We don't know what a "thought" is at all, let alone how to stimulate one.

Very coarse sensory input is possible, eg. letting a blind person "see" splotches of light. 20 years ago they were doing it, but the implants are fragile and bulky and the implanting process is very dangerous.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

For "telepathy" we'd need a revolutionary understanding of how the mind works. We don't know what a "thought" is at all, let alone how to stimulate one.

Very coarse sensory input is possible, eg. letting a blind person "see" splotches of light. 20 years ago they were doing it, but the implants are fragile and bulky and the implanting process is very dangerous.

Not even thought...but motion and action.

 

[Crispy]

Not even thought...but motion and action.

Very coarsely. This article is a good summary of the current state of the art: Musk’s newest startup is venturing into a series of hard problems . This is with hundreds of electrodes. THe neuralink technology is getting up to 1000s. There are 100,000,000,000 cells in your brain, so there's a long way to go...

 

[Ming]

He's a fucking loon.

Totally. He called that diver who rescued those kids in the cave ‘a paedo’.

 

[Ming]

This a good film on the subject.
Upgrade (film) - Wikipedia

 

[Steel Icarus]

He's got that whole culty weirdo fanboi thing going on despite being an obvious "the weak shall perish" exploitative egomaniacal capitalist freakjob

 

[Ming]

He's got that whole culty weirdo fanboi thing going on despite being an obvious "the weak shall perish" exploitative egomaniacal capitalist freakjob

He offered the rescue team his little submarine (why do all Bond villains have submarines?) which unfortunately couldn’t negotiate a fucking cave system so he had a hissy fit. What a tosser.

 

[sovereignb]

Elon Musk: Tesla founder reveals plans to implant tiny computer chips in brains

Elon Musk talking about using microchips in the brain to interface with AI and connect directly to other people with chips on their brains.
Says he is looking at how it could control disease and pain too.


He believes AI will be far more intelligent than mere humans soon and says "if you cant beat it..join it".

I'm not sure who will be getting these amazing chips. ... doubt I would want one. What say you?

Doesn't seem that far fetched to me...an evolution of smart phones and social media.

Would I want it, no. Future generations maybe more inclined to.

 

[Fez909]

He believes AI will be far more intelligent than mere humans soon

Ray Kurzweil popularised this idea and called it the 'singularity'.

I read a free online book about this a few years ago which was ace. Fiction, of course. The book itself was absolutely shite, but the opening chapter or two where the explonential explosion in intelligence is described was so good. Shame I can't remember the name.

Also, I started a thread on this (that didn't get too much interest, but very interesting discussion on its few pages): Singularity watch - the future is already here

This was one link I shared, in 2013: Brain-to-brain interface lets rats share information via internet

And I also started another thread, on basically the same topic but more rooted in current tech: Machine Learning (Skynet is coming thread)

I think Musk/Kurzweil are right. But I probably don't agree with the timescales. But we're definitely in an accelating area where it comes to this kind of thing and it fascinates and scares me in equal measures.

 

[weltweit]

It is going to be complicated.