I Hate Macs

[8ball]

Vista looks like the bastard child of Windows XP and the OS on my mate's shiny new iMac.

Am I oversimplifying or is there a little bit of 'borrowing of ideas' going on here?

 

[editor]

Well, absolutely.
Graphically? OSX looks better than XP

In your opinion, of course.

But it can't run the tools I want it to, so it's no good for me. Ergo, for me, XP is better.

 

[pengaleng]

In your opinion, of course.

dude you can't sit there and say that XP looks better than OSX it looks like a fucking fisher price my first computer for fuck sakes.

 

[editor]

dude you can't sit there and say that XP looks better than OSX it looks like a fucking fisher price my first computer for fuck sakes.

Where have I said that then?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Graphically? OSX looks better than XP and has a much nicer graphics subsystem from a developer's POV.

I used to know someone who coded for macs and he said it was just as bad as windows.

 

[Dask]

I think the split with DOS and the mainstreaming of NT was more than just a service pack.

It was meant as a joke...

In reference to service releases of Windows 95....not service packs.

 

[Dask]

But it can't run the tools I want it to, so it's no good for me. Ergo, for me, XP is better.

That's not entirely true. You can run any PC app you like on OS X.

 

[8ball]

Look, I don't care what anyone says, the C64 pwns the Spectrum's ass every time!!

End of.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

That's not entirely true. You can run any PC app you like on OS X.

or on a vm ...

 

[pengaleng]

Where have I said that then?

well you keep quoting people who are saying OSX looks better graphically than XP and saying 'in your opinion' so it would imply that you feel differently wouldn't it.

 

[editor]

That's not entirely true. You can run any PC app you like on OS X.

I've no interest in farting about with dual OS machines thanks.

 

[Lazy Llama]

I've no interest in farting about with dual OS machines thanks.

On a slightly related note, Microsoft's preferred way for web developers to test sites using IE 6 and IE 7 is to run IE6 in a Virtual Machine. Similar thing can be done with Vmware Server (free for Windows, Linux), VMware Fusion (beta - Mac), or Parallels (paid-for - Windows or Mac).

But I'd guess most developers have existing ways of testing sites with different browsers.

 

[jæd]

I've no interest in farting about with dual OS machines thanks.

You can use things like Parallels or CrossOver Office for Mac to run Xp side-by-side with Mac stuff... (oops just noticed that was a link to Parallels... Mr Editor... Try reading links before dismissing them...!)

 

[jæd]

I don't think I've seen the advert, but the sheer shininess of Vista truly is something to behold!

Good thing it's shiny because otherwise no-one would bother with it... Btw, Mr Ed, I have you checked that all your "tools" run on on Vista...? And that your hardware is compatible...?

 

[Dask]

The best feature of Vista is the installer IMO, took a fraction of the time XP did to install.

 

[pengaleng]

The best feature of Vista is the installer IMO, took a fraction of the time XP did to install.

aren't you going to have to reinstall XP if you need to reinstall vista though without doing some wonderfully complicated shizzle? or have I heard wrong? something to do with serial numbers?

 

[Dask]

If you've got the standalone version and not the upgrade then you can reinstall without going anywhere near XP.

 

[pengaleng]

I guess the upgrade guys are pretty fuckkered then init

 

[editor]

Mr Editor... Try reading links before dismissing them...!)

Er, perhaps you should read what I wrote.

I did read the link and like I just said, I've no interest in farting about with running two OSs on a Mac or any other platform, thanks.

 

[sleaterkinney]

You can use things like Parallels or CrossOver Office for Mac to run Xp side-by-side with Mac stuff... (oops just noticed that was a link to Parallels... Mr Editor... Try reading links before dismissing them...!)

Why would he want to shell out for an expensive Mac and an emulator so he can run pc software?.

 

[pengaleng]

ahh fuck off whingeing about yer fuckin peecee it's doin me head in you arrogant arsehole.

 

[Dask]

I guess the upgrade guys are pretty fuckkered then init

Yeah, I fucking hate upgrading windows machines...it's always better to just wipe the partition and start over again with a fresh install.

 

[jæd]

Er, perhaps you should read what I wrote.

I did read the link and like I just said, I've no interest in farting about with running two OSs on a Mac or any other platform, thanks.

Oops -- could've sworn there was a "boot" in there somewhere...

 

[editor]

ahh fuck off whingeing about yer fuckin peecee it's doin me head in you arrogant arsehole.

Shut it with the pointless and disruptive personal abuse, please. Thanks.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I hate macs

Then get an umberella?

 

[Lazy Llama]

You can use things like Parallels or CrossOver Office for Mac to run Xp side-by-side with Mac stuff.

S'true y'know.

I only need a few Windows apps (well, mostly one) and Parallels will bring XP out of suspended mode in a few seconds when I need it. It really is a BIG step beyond the old dual-boot world; you can share files, cut and paste and even drag and drop files between the OSes. I can also recommend Vmware Server on a PC. It's free and lets you fiddle with OSes (if that's your thing) without touching the original OS, or if you want to check that a website works in Konqueror on Linux, you can have an installation of a suitable Linux sitting around and fire it up when you need it. Or you want to try your hang at running an apache webserver on FreeBSD, you can have that too. No fiddling with boot managers, when you don't need the machine it takes no CPU or memory, only disk space, just load if when you need it.

But jæd knows that already, so I'm doing the "preaching to the converted" thing, sorry.

 

[pengaleng]

I gots teh toldz off!!!!

 

[Crispy]

Then get an umberella?

http://www.flatironsphotoclub.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/pathayesbear.jpg
Hohohohohohohohohohoho

 

[untethered]

Yeah, I fucking hate upgrading windows machines...it's always better to just wipe the partition and start over again with a fresh install.

$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

... or your GUI equivalent.

 

[tangerinedream]

he [the mac user] would be repeatedly congratulating himself for looking so cool, and banging on about how he was going to use his new laptop to write a novel, without ever getting round to doing it, like a mediocre idiot.

It's me!

Macs are cooler and better though. Duh!