Hundreds form human shield in Gaza

[moono]

Hundreds of Palestinians formed a human shield around the home of a militant in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Lahia late Saturday to prevent an Israel Air Force air strike on the building, residents said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/788899.html

The amazing thing about this action is that, even though the Zionists gunned down ' human-shield' women in cold-blood, just last week, these Palestinians still believe that there are compassionate airmen in the IAF who will refuse to bomb them, despite the orders of their ratshit 'superiors'.

I hope they're right. Allah be merciful.

 

[weltweit]

Total war means just that, in ww2 everyone in Great Britain apart from the children were in on the war effort, in the conflict between Israel and Palestine it looks like, in Gaza at least the word civilian is taking on a new meaning.

 

[moono]

In Israel, military service is mandatory for both men and women.

 

[weltweit]

Yes it was put to me a few weeks ago that Israel is an:

Army with a state

rather than a

State with an army

 

[TAE]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/788899.html

That is completely surreal, bizar and illogical on so many levels, I don't know what to say.

 

[Dandred]

I suppose now the next time the airmen in the IAF want to bomb a house they won't call ahead to tell them......

 

[TAE]

It means that:
(a) Those people think that the IAF do care about civilians OR
(b) Those people think that deliberatly putting civilians in danger for propaganda purposes is a good idea.

 

[weltweit]

The story is now also on the bbc.

An Israeli military spokesman confirmed to Reuters news agency that the raid had been called off because of the Palestinian action.

'Human shields'

"The attack plan was cancelled because of the people there," he said. "We differentiate between innocent people and terrorists."

He said Israel would continue its policy of targeted air strikes and accused militants of using the civilians in the camp as human shields.

link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6162494.stm

 

[dylanredefined]

The amazing thing about this action is that, even though the Zionists gunned down ' human-shield' women in cold-blood, just last week, these Palestinians still believe that there are compassionate airmen in the IAF who will refuse to bomb them, despite the orders of their ratshit 'superiors'.

I hope they're right. Allah be merciful.

Surely your hoping the iaf is merciful in this incident .

 

[moono]

I was and they were.


Even if reluctantly;

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3F2A6AD2-AE28-433D-8D19-30563E9FD391.htm

 

[lobster]

I suppose now the next time the airmen in the IAF want to bomb a house they won't call ahead to tell them......

i can see that happening aswell or they will lower the 10 minutes.

 

[moono]

Reminds me of Gandhi, defeating an invader with fuck all.

 

[moono]

Bravo for the 'truce'. Let's not forget though, whilst the Zionists swagger in their coat of magnanimity, that Hamas declared a self-imposed ceasefire in August of 2004. During that time, up until the shelling of the beach and Hamas' breaking of that ceasefire, the Zionists killed over eight hundred Palestinians. Eight hundred.

How does a Quassam rocket launch drown out eight hundred dead ?



http://www.palestinercs.org/crisistables/Oct 2006 Table.htm

 

[FruitandNut]

Reminds me of Gandhi, defeating an invader with fuck all.

Only works if the other side have at least some moral scruples. Don't think they would try it in a downtown Baghdad Sunni vs Shiite showdown - according to fundamentalist immams, 'there ain't such a thing as civilians' when doin' 'Allah's' bidding - and they always tend to drag him out as 'justification'.

The hiding behind women ain't a new thing:

Lessons from the Battle of Heiromyak (Al Yarmuk)

At the Battle of the Yarmuk (river), between the Muslim Arabs and the Byzantines, the Muslim Arabs were losing the battle in the initial stages. When the victory seemed certain for the Byzantines, the Muslims took recourse to subterfuge, when they realized that victory could not come to them through straight warfare, they used a contingent of women to attack the Byzantine troops who charged at the Byzantine army shrieking and hollering. Not used to facing ladies as an adversary, the Byzantines were at a loss to respond and the confused Byzantine generals ordered their troops not to molest the women and to withdraw.
www.historyofjihad.org/byzantine.html

 

[rachamim18]

Moono: Reminds me of Ghandi...I guess I missed that section, when Ghandi tells his young followers to go into discos and pizza places and incinerate infants.

 

[Grandma Death]

Moono: Reminds me of Ghandi...I guess I missed that section, when Ghandi tells his young followers to go into discos and pizza places and incinerate infants.

Thats rich coming from a member of an army that shoots a ten year old in the leg followed by two in the head then walks away only to come back and fire a stream of bullets into her lifeless body.....just one example of brutality from the IDF. Please dont think for one minute barbaric behaviour is synonymous with the 'other side'....frankly your one sided debating makes me want to vomit

 

[moono]

I qualified my opinion, rachamim. Open your other eye.

 

[rachamim18]

Grandma Death: You forgot some key parts. Like the fact that she was running TOWARDS an armed IDF position, despite being told via loudspeaker to desist in 3 languages, while carrying a satchel. In other words, fitting the m.o. of a suicide bomber perfectly.

As for the officer firing a second shot, he followed military protocol completely correctly. It is called a kill shot, or confirmation shot and should always be performed.


That she was 10 is not the issue in an area where 10 year olds march in Shahada Parades and are active emembers of illegal terrorist organisations. bombers slightly older then her have blown up innocent Israelis.

As for firing a stream of bullets, sorry, that never happened.


Moono: If you say so.

 

[moono]

rachamim;

that never happened.

Keep saying it.

Over and over.

 

[Grandma Death]

As for firing a stream of bullets, sorry, that never happened.


.

She was shot at least 17 times.

Thats not a stream of bullets. 17 times??


Your living in a dream world pal.

 

[moono]

Nightmare, I'd call it. He's up for having his collar felt.

 

[Grandma Death]

Grandma Death: You forgot some key parts. Like the fact that she was running TOWARDS an armed IDF position,

Yeh right. The transcript of the radio exchange in case you missed it:

Watchtower
'It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward'
Operations room
'Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?'
Watchtower
'A girl of about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death'
Captain R (after killing the girl)
'Anything moving in the zone, even a three-year-old, needs to be killed'

You know you make me sick. Even faced with facts you never admit for one minute you could be wrong. I stick by my assertion-your an apologist, nothing more nothing less.

 

[rachamim18]

GrandmaDeath: 17 bullets from an M16 or Galil is a stream? It is 4 seconds on the trigger. Pleease learn about weaponry before making choices in opinions concerning them or their effects.

Your transcript, originally in Hebrew, has not only been terribly mistranslated, as with "away" substituted" for "towards," as well as the comment about 3 years olds. You eat up whatever you lefty handlers feed you without bothering to corroborate whether or not it is even true. Notice however that you have quietly backed off of the idea that the Corrie pics were not doctored. Nice side stepping, Gradma got game.


For the record, I often admit that I am wrong. With this subject matter though, it has been done over hundreds of times and I happen to speak Hebrew so I know that your English version is way off. As a soldier in the same army as the men in question, I also know proper protocol and performance and both were impeccable. Sorry if you find that callous or offensive to your sensibilities but that is the fact of the matter.

 

[mauvais]

Can you actually count to four? You might want to give it a go.

 

[rachamim18]

Mauvais: Can you talk about issues instead of personalities?

 

[Grandma Death]

GrandmaDeath: 17 bullets from an M16 or Galil is a stream? It is 4 seconds on the trigger. Pleease learn about weaponry before making choices in opinions concerning them or their effects.

Is that all you have left? An innocent girl was shot at least 17 times and you are arguing semantics on the grounds of weapon dynamics.

Your transcript, originally in Hebrew, has not only been terribly mistranslated, as with "away" substituted" for "towards," as well as the comment about 3 years olds. You eat up whatever you lefty handlers feed you without bothering to corroborate whether or not it is even true.

Im not being fed anything. That translation was well documented on the net and in several papers. Are you saying that the translation was wrong-care to link to the correct words used please?

Notice however that you have quietly backed off of the idea that the Corrie pics were not doctored. Nice side stepping, Gradma got game.

No I havent-you need to go back to the thread. Ive asked you twice now to provide proof the ISM admitted the photo was doctored.

 

[moono]

Ive asked you twice now to provide proof the ISM admitted the photo was doctored.

Rachamim never provides any form of verification. He wants everybody to take the word of a currently-serving Zionist thug at face value. It's a tactic dating back to the days of successful Zionist propaganda, like the 'Arabs invaded Israel' crock.

 

[rachamim18]

GrandmaDeath: "Is that all Rachamim has left, semantics,etc.?" Look, it is a pertinent fact. You WERE the one who brought up the issue of the number of shells.

"Requests a different translation between HQ asnd Site Control." I will do my best to find one and provide, as requested.

"Corrie." I already did so.

 

[Grandma Death]

"Requests a different translation between HQ asnd Site Control." I will do my best to find one and provide, as requested.

I wont hold my breath. Ive noticed your posting style on this forum. Ive lost count the amount of times you have said you will provide credible links. And this:

"Corrie." I already did so.

....is another example. Ive asked you three times now for a link to an ISM statement that they admitted to doctoring photos of Rachel Corrie. Thus far you have referred me to Wikipedia....where I am unable to find the direct link to any sort of statement by the ISM.

So....are you going to put this forum out of its misery and break with tradition by actually backing up your claims?

 

[Grandma Death]

GrandmaDeath: "Is that all Rachamim has left, semantics,etc.?" Look, it is a pertinent fact. You WERE the one who brought up the issue of the number of shells.
.

You really are a moron do you know that.

If someone describes the dropping of a bomb in a residential area as ' having a devastating impact' and then someone chirps in saying' well actually the bomb only had 300kg of explosive in instead of 500kg so the impact really isnt that devastating' I think most people would be staggered by that statement.

Over 17 bullets were fired in a near continuous stream and you are arguing that infact thats only a few short bursts on this type of weapon.

Only someone like you could possibly even try their best to put a sheen on the murder of a 10 year old girl.

You make me sick.