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Huge fire at Notre Dame cathedral, Paris

I noticed most my social media buddies, even the quieter and more apolitical ones are sharing memes about notre dame getting money while survivors of grenfell, people in flint etc are still struggling. Anyone else noticed this is happening and people seem more engaged with class politics at the moment? It's difficult to gauge actual public opinion with the way algorithms work nowadays
 
I noticed most my social media buddies, even the quieter and more apolitical ones are sharing memes about notre dame getting money while survivors of grenfell, people in flint etc are still struggling. Anyone else noticed this is happening and people seem more engaged with class politics at the moment? It's difficult to gauge actual public opinion with the way algorithms work nowadays

I have observed a similar effect. The sums of money appearing out of thin air are perhaps uniquely absurd in this case, particularly when not a single human soul seems to have been harmed and the issue is simply rebuilding some boondoggle that belongs to a nonce cult.
 
This should shut up all you godless anarcho-scoffers; Jesus was there.


I see your Jesus and raise you to Satan, seen in another infamous fire...

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I have observed a similar effect. The sums of money appearing out of thin air are perhaps uniquely absurd in this case, particularly when not a single human soul seems to have been harmed

One firefighter was seriously injured. I've seen a lot of news reports mentioning firefighters risking their lives to save the cathedral as if it was a good thing - if I'd have been in charge of fire crews that day, I'd have made it very clear that if all the people are out of there, no church is worth dying for.
 
One firefighter was seriously injured. I've seen a lot of news reports mentioning firefighters risking their lives to save the cathedral as if it was a good thing - if I'd have been in charge of fire crews that day, I'd have made it very clear that if all the people are out of there, no church is worth dying for.
As being a builder is more dangerous than being a firefighter, extending this logic could become tricky when considering any reconstruction.
 
One firefighter was seriously injured. I've seen a lot of news reports mentioning firefighters risking their lives to save the cathedral as if it was a good thing - if I'd have been in charge of fire crews that day, I'd have made it very clear that if all the people are out of there, no church is worth dying for.

Spot on. Maybe just offer some thoughts and prayers?
 
Anyone who's immediate reaction to something like this is to say "fuck the Church" should think about whose tune they're really dancing to . . . their own, or that of the Church?
 
Hmmm...looks more like Peter Beardsley IYAM

So these days a lot of people didn’t remember me so well, like, but for example, for the last five years I’ve been going the bus depot most days. It’s very colourful up there: there’s lots of banter between the crew and the mechanics and the lasses in the office. I’ll sit on the low wall like, outside and I can hear most of what’s going on through the big double doors. It keeps me company while I eat me chicken wrap. But faces have changed now. Most of the guys my age have moved on really. Sometimes when they see me, they shut the door rather than invite me in. Years ago they used to let me heat me chicken wrap up in the microwave but that’s stopped now. I mean, it’s OK cold. I do me weekly shop down at the Asda: sliced white, baked beans, margarine, ambrosia cream rice, evaporated milk, bunch of bananas, tinned ham for a sandwich, like, eggs for hard-boiled egg, rich tea biscuits, some ice cream for the weekend – mmmm. Then I just grab a load of ready meals. The wife doesn’t like to cook these days since, you know, she rejected Jesus. I wake up early nearly every day and go downstairs and watch some of the TV shows I used to watch with my boy when he was a young'un. I’ve noticed I pick my nails quite a lot these days. The down-pipe on me shed’s leaking at one of the joints. I got a new sofa the other day. Corduroy material in grey. The wife has took the corner facing the TV so I generally just sit on a little stool that me boy used when he had his supper, in front of the telly, you know. I go down me local most nights. The bar that I usually drink in has been turned into a restaurant but there’s still four or five seats at the actual bar. It’s OK, but as soon as the restaurant fills up it feels like I’m getting in the way so I drink up and go home. Did I tell you that ever since the neighbour moved in I’ve heard this knocking at night. It seems to be coming from the loft but as soon as I go up to investigate it seems to stop. You know that pub I mentioned right ? Well my boy had his first drink in that pub. I haven’t seen him now for, what, about five months, but he always phones him Mum on Sundays, and I get to say hello at the end of the call. That’s it really.
 
One firefighter was seriously injured. I've seen a lot of news reports mentioning firefighters risking their lives to save the cathedral as if it was a good thing - if I'd have been in charge of fire crews that day, I'd have made it very clear that if all the people are out of there, no church is worth dying for.

well, fire departments exist to put out fires.
there was a fire, a big one, in the middle of a city, with other buildings around.
ergo, fire department on the scene.
 
well, fire departments exist to put out fires.
there was a fire, a big one, in the middle of a city, with other buildings around.
ergo, fire department on the scene.

Of course they should have a crack at it, maybe even with an element of risk, but I saw Macron quoted as saying "The firefighters stopped the fire by taking the most extreme risks" - I don't think they should be taking "the most extreme risks" with their lives when it's only a building, however majestic, at stake - maybe it was a bad translation.
 
Of course they should have a crack at it, maybe even with an element of risk, but I saw Macron quoted as saying "The firefighters stopped the fire by taking the most extreme risks" - I don't think they should be taking "the most extreme risks" with their lives when it's only a building, however majestic, at stake - maybe it was a bad translation.
Or Macron is just a nob.

He appears to be playing this for all it's worth.
 
Or nonce apologists. Or head in the sand ignore the weeping children types.

You think Catholics are nonce apologists?
You've lobbed all Catholics in together.
I've ignored nobody. And many here are doing their utmost to expose pedophilia in the church

But you decided I'm a nonce or someone who ignores children because I happen to be a catholic.
?
 
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