Hartlepool by-election

[steeplejack]

Saw somewhere earlier a guess of 0300-0500 for the result

 

[PR1Berske]

Once upon a time I could stay up till 3 to watch results come in. Tonight perhaps is not one of them. I'll keep an eye on things as long as possible.

The "spin" is already coming out via the usual channels. Sky reporting that "sources close" are kicking themselves over calling the election for the same day as every other vote under the sun. Pretty weak sauce argument to my ears.

 

[two sheds]

Would have done during a proper election night, not just for local elections though.

 

[not-bono-ever]

whatever happens here, whatever whataboutery goes on on with the LP, its is utterly fucking criminal that a tory shitbag could ever consider
getting this seat.These cunts utterly despise and ridicule you

 

[PR1Berske]

Would have done during a proper election night, not just for local elections though.

I was thinking the other day, about the US elections. Dozens of YouTube channels, Twitch streams etc, all providing through (thru) the night results outside the usual media outlets. Something that hasn't really caught on here at all.

 

[two sheds]

Do they have a swingometer though eh do they do they? No they don't

 

[steeplejack]

 

[steeplejack]

 

[steeplejack]

Not much point staying up. The ghost of Fred Dibnah brings down another half-forgotten Red Wall chimney with sulphurous Tory kindling.

 

[Pickman's model]

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That's what happens when you haven't any politics, a leader whose idea of opposition is supporting the government and a candidate who was a reject elsewhere

 

[Sue]

That's what happens when you haven't any politics, a leader whose idea of opposition is supporting the government and a candidate who was a reject elsewhere

Yep. You need to give people something to vote for. What are Labour for? What is Starmer for? No, I don't know either.

Bland, unconvincing and insincere blah.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep. You need to give people something to vote for. What are Labour for? What is Starmer for? No, I don't know either.

Bland, unconvincing and insincere blah.

They're for being beaten.

 

[William of Walworth]

Yep. You need to give people something to vote for. What are Labour for? What is Starmer for? No, I don't know either.

Bland, unconvincing and insincere blah.

I do not disagree at all

But!!

As I said before, voting Tory should be illegal for anyone with a minor ounce of slight intelligence

Tory voters -- scum
Along with 'their' party, leaders, candidates, Johnsons

 

[William of Walworth]

They're for being beaten.

By fucking Tories though? See my post just above

 

[Pickman's model]

By fucking Tories though? See my post just above

In a few months you'll be wondering if they can beat the lib dems

 

[William of Walworth]

In a few months you'll be wondering if they can beat the lib dems

Lib Dems? The also-Tories? The even-more-than-Labour-are Tories?

Steady on now!

 

[Pickman's model]

Lib Dems? The also-Tories? The even-more-than-Labour-are Tories?

Steady on now!

You have no idea what starmer is capable of

 

[DownwardDog]

a wee bit sneery

That was my intention.

Hartlepool is quite a specific electorate- working-class fiercely Brit nationalist / local, with an armed services / British legion culture firmly embedded. .

This definitely was the case but I think it's changing now. Everybody who did National Service will now be in their 80s and there aren't many left. There wasn't and still isn't a high level of voluntary service in the armed forces. I'm the only person I know from my school who took the Queen's Shilling.

 

[William of Walworth]

You have no idea what starmer is capable of

I think I'd rather not know

Tories remain utter scum though, as do (most of) their fucked-up voters

 

[JimW]

I'm the only person I know from my school who took the Queen's Shilling.

Though lots of them you meet in the pub were in the SAS.

 

[PR1Berske]

I've barely just woken up.....and the result is still not known!

 

[PR1Berske]

This from Sky News

 

[tony.c]

You have no idea what starmer is capable of

BBC news political commentator is saying that 'left' MPs are saying that wrapping himself in the flag is pointless, but Starmer is likely to be pulled even further to the right.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Turn-out only 42.55%, well down on the last few GE elections, which have been 55-60%.

 

[tim]

Lib Dems? The also-Tories? The even-more-than-Labour-are Tories?

Steady on now!

Are they really that principled?

 

[tony.c]

This is a 30 foot inflatable erected by Hartlepool business people outside election count. Apparently it cost £2000. It's supposed to be Boris Johnson. Admittedly that's not much for a blimp compared to the cost of the Trump and Sadiq Khan blimps, so perhaps they couldn't expect too much. But I'd ask for my money back. I don't know who it looks like, but not Johnson.

Inflatable Boris Johnson erected outside Hartlepool by-election count

www.standard.co.uk

 

[planetgeli]

Not a chance in hell of Labour holding that.

Will you be proven right?!

Yes

 

[PR1Berske]

Yes

I hope you got decent odds

 

[cupid_stunt]

Tories - 15,529

Labour - 8,589

LibDem - 349

Majority - 6,940

 

[JTG]

Labour sources already saying they haven't changed enough, full steam ahead to the right