Hansard: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

[gosub]

i'd hazzard a guess at who that was, but would reckon its off the table cos its now in the Guardian.
Fuckwits, if it is who I think it is, these people have their own seat in the UN

 

[yield]

i'd hazzard a guess at who that was, but would reckon its off the table cos its now in the Guardian.
Fuckwits, if it is who I think it is, these people have their own seat in the UN

What one of the four other permanent members of the United Nations Security Council?

Just because the Guardian has reprinted someone's blog doesn't make any more plausible.

 

[gosub]

edited coz bed wayz is right wayz

 

[miss minnie]

Here's their bonkers site: http://www.unoitc.org/History.html

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[ExtraRefined]

i'd hazzard a guess at who that was, but would reckon its off the table cos its now in the Guardian.
Fuckwits, if it is who I think it is, these people have their own seat in the UN

You thinking of the Knights Hospitaller perhaps? They're an odd bunch. Several other possibilities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_observers#Other_entities

 

[elbows]

i'd hazzard a guess at who that was, but would reckon its off the table cos its now in the Guardian.
Fuckwits, if it is who I think it is, these people have their own seat in the UN

If it was anybody legit with decent worldwide status then they wouldnt need to jump through silly hoops on the margins of uk politics in order to get the ear of our government would they?

Besides I dont think we should accept offers of financial help from any entity that wishes to remain shady and invisible.

 

[SpookyFrank]

just for you:
geourbancities75

It is playing Alanis Morissette isn't it? I'm not imagining it?

 

[trevhagl]

If they can lower house prices and sort out MRSA i'd happily let the Templars run things

i don't think an American Oi band could run the country to be fair

 

[gosub]

Tied up with that lot yeap. A firm I used to work for had dealings with this bloke (dead now) who once gave us a first translation of foucault's pendulum and, lets put it this way,at the time I wondered if he was the name the radio 4 investigation into the demise of Calvi couldn't mention.

From his speech don't think he is talking treasury control, assuming they were on the level why would they be tied to a gold standard that disappeared 20 years before the UN was formed?

 

[yield]

Tied up with that lot yeap. A firm I used to work for had dealings with this bloke (dead now) who once gave us a first translation of foucault's pendulum and, lets put it this way,at the time I wondered if he was the name the radio 4 investigation into the demise of Calvi couldn't mention.

From his speech don't think he is talking treasury control, assuming they were on the level why would they be tied to a gold standard that disappeared 20 years before the UN was formed?

I'm genuinely curious gosub. The place you worked for had dealings with Giuseppe Zanon di Valgiurata?

He was involved in William Weaver's English translation of Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco?

He was also involved in the death of Italian banker Roberto Calvi, whose body was found "hanging from scaffolding beneath Blackfriars Bridge", in 1982?

Found a recent Independent article by the author of God's Banker, Rupert Cornwall. The Vatican's appeal as an offshore haven is still evident. 22 September 2010.

Admittedly the Zanon di Valgiurata family does own a Swiss private bank. But why would they approach Lord David James? And how does that relate to the Gold Standard?

It sounds like something straight from the pages of Foucault's Pendulum.

 

[gosub]

I 've no evidence to add on the open Calvi case, and most of the time we only dealt with him when he was engaging in in his passion which was F1, Ferrari in particular. But it was an odd present, what we took to be his lot get 1 reference in the book. (Would have got the copy in the film of the da Vinci code but more grown up things needed doing).

What sprang him to mind was that he, while alive, had zero digital footprint which was impressive, made more impressive by the flight protocols some of his trips were awarded. They didn't come with owning a bank and someone else will now have them...

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

A little late - video of Lord David James' speech:




I see three possibilities:

1. His mental health is in question.
2. He's the victim of a scam.
3. He's on the level.

Whichever is the case, what becomes clear is an illustration of how 'power' actually works...

 

[gawkrodger]

Hasn't he recently had a stroke? I think we can pretty safely say he's gone a bit loopy

 

[butchersapron]

I see three possibilities:

1. His mental health is in question.
2. He's the victim of a scam.
3. He's on the level.

Whichever is the case, what becomes clear is an illustration of how 'power' actually works...

I see four at least
4. drunk old tart

Which won't allow your loones to contuses.

 

[butchersapron]

I see three possibilities:

1. His mental health is in question.
2. He's the victim of a scam.
3. He's on the level.

Whichever is the case, what becomes clear is an illustration of how 'power' actually works...

You need to grow up sharpish. Evil goblins won't get you. P2 won't get you, no one will get you but asda. Destroy this world you've built - it comes down now!

 

[gosub]

34 articles now according to google, hope he doesn't end up as twisted as the man who single handled arranged the £ to be propped up in the mid 80's (a big balled 747 deal meant he will never be British) 34 articles online so far according to google including a sky news interview where he ruled out treasury control.

Potentially that deal was bigger than the projected difference in spending plans between the Labour and Tories...

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

..sky news interview where he ruled out treasury control...

Damn you, gosub... I was ready to settle for 1 and 2!

Here: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Po...f-Billions-Of-UK-Debt/Article/201011115795267

Butch... despite both of your edits, I'm struggling to comprehend the meaning of your posts. I do remember when you were at least coherent.

 

[elbows]

I didnt see him ruling out Treasury Control in the Sky interview?

So I had a sniff around and it seems it was a zdnet article:

James told ZDNet UK that he had not been approached by the UNOITC, and that there were no links between Foundation X and UNOITC.

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/securi.../lord-james-foundation-x-not-a-scam-10020958/

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Spoofed - http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s1i85770

 

[killer b]

someone posted this on another forum i go on - i can't vouch for the quality of the info, but he seems sincere:

Been working on this for Private Eye and The Indy this week (and yes he was drunk).

It's all legit but leads into the murky world of Sovereign Wealth Funds which will soon account for over 10% of the world's total wealth despite governments not having access to what they're up to. In the next two years they're investing more money in the US alone than its total GDP.

You work for Private Eye? Sweet. Tell us more

I wish. I'm just a freelance copy writer who, by chance, happened to have a soon to be published press release on Sovereign Welfare Funds which revealed the fund involved through their meetings with Lord Sassoon in September.

I know absolutely nothing about SWF's and no contacts at that level of politics, so phoned up Strobes and handed over everything which they checked out and will publish on Friday.

Can't really say more than that as the Indy emails are packed full of legal stuff about confidentiality.

 

[butchersapron]

Sovereign Wealth Funds or Sovereign Welfare Funds? I smell ratty.

 

[gosub]

on a 3g connection so didn't watch the video, was going on the surrounding text :"The peer refused to reveal the identity of the organisation but described them as having a "massive supranational accumulation of funds" which they have built up over 100 years.", which ties with his Lords statement about gold standard.... the UN formed in 47, a little before the first recorded SWF (would a supranational SWF be an oxy moron?), that he went further on ZDnet all the better.

 

[yield]

Norway's Sovereign Wealth Fund is leasing "a quarter of Regent Street".
"Crown Estate to sell Regent Street stake."
FT. November 4 2010

The Crown Estate has confirmed plans to sell a quarter of Regent Street for £448m ($721m) to Norges Bank Investment Management, making its UK debut purchase on behalf of Norway’s NKr3,000bn (£320bn) government pension fund.

The Crown Estate has set up a £1.8bn property partnership structure to hold its Regent Street properties, in which the Norwegian government pension fund will buy a 150-year lease on the 25 per cent stake.

CB Richard Ellis advised the UK body. The Crown Estate controls the £6.6bn sovereign property empire but hands revenue surplus to the Treasury. As part of the Comprehensive Spending Review, the government said the Queen will receive a percentage of the Crown Estate’s surplus in a move away from the Civil List payments.

Can't hotlink to FT top link on this google search.
Surely a deal like this would go through the usual diplomatic channels?
May well be unrelated.

 

[gosub]

Just back from pub with a freshly printed Bank of Scotland £5 in my pocket.

Sticking with taking Lord James at his word (there are quite a few of them), speaking Candidely I'm not sure the catholic church is as fiscally bancrupt as it is morally, indeed the accountants would say the last few years have been bumper, (given the rise in gold prices and their alleged holdings), being rationally though why would all catholic banking be done centrally. As long as you stick to articles of association.

 

[killer b]

sassoon met the saudis in september? the original post i copied from has been edited to exclude the sassoon info, so i reckon that's what he's talking about.

i guess if he's genuine we'll find out more on friday...

 

[killer b]

whoops. actually, i tell a lie. he hasn't edited, i was reading the wrong post.

 

[Stoat Boy]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Po...ions-Of-UK-Debt/Article/201011115795267?f=rss

Just watched this.

Maybe I have been watching to much 'lie to me' recently (a US series about a body language expert who 'reads' people) but I found the gestures of this man at 34 seconds and then at 3.08 he touches his face in a way that seems rather odd.

Anybody know much about this sort of thing ? Both times seem to relate to his claims about his knowledge of the Intelligence services and then about 'trust'.

 

[xes]

the entire media works on that shit stoaty, I;ve not seen the video you refer to, as I'm at work and have no sound, but there are many ways to enhance what you say, with body movements. It's a type of hypnosis if you like, but not, IYSWIM. More NLP than hypnosis, but it's effective. As any speaker will tell you.

 

[laptop]

More NLP than hypnosis, but it's effective. As any speaker will tell you.

You have the wrong end of the stick.

Those are "I'm lying" telltales if ever I saw them - odd that the second, utterly blatant, one is on the words "trust me".

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

The first 'tell' might equally be related to his statement that the "I had connections - in the past - where I could [slight pause] get on to various intelligence agencies" [tell]...

He emphasises the word 'past', falters, touches eye... I wouldn't have thought that those sorts of 'connections' magically evaporate, indeed, by his own admission he has just used them.

The second (utterly blatant) one is on the words "...and they couldn't really trust this at all..." (referring to the attitude of UKG).

ZDNet has a subsequent report (from Sat 6th):

According to the spokesperson, Treasury commercial secretary Lord Sassoon has "looked into Lord James of Blackheath's proposal, and has decided not to pursue the matter any further".

"At no point has Lord Sassoon, or any Treasury officials, held any meetings with Lord James of Blackheath or any organisation that he mentions on this subject," the spokesperson added.

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The Treasury's statement appears to contradict Lord James' claim that he has met with Lord Sassoon to discuss Foundation X's offer, although it is not clear how he related the offer if not in some kind of meeting. The line that neither Lord Sassoon nor Treasury officials had met with the foundation itself, though, makes sense, as according to Lord James Foundation X expects to be contacted "only by someone equal to head of state status or someone with an international security rating equal to the top six people in the world".

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/commun...o-pursue-22bn-foundation-x-proposal-10020975/