HeAthen
Nadgers.
Precisely. If it's a matter for anyone it's her.
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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HeAthen
Nadgers.
Headline from Haaretz. I wonder how long it'll be before Netanyahu tries to close them down?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
As MEE and others pointed out yesterday, a big part (probably the most significant part) of the reason why the three above were not charged by the ICC is because there have been Parliamentary and judicial procedures against those individuals / people associated with those acts in their countries. They might have been insufficient procedures, the people responsible might have evaded the sentences that many people thought they should have faced, but there was an attempt at an independent reckoning and that has usually been enough to dissuade the ICC.
Contrast this with the complete and well-documented absence of nearly any legal consequences to individuals for Israeli military / political actions during the occupation, or indeed for anything else carried out “for the state” such as assassinations, terror attacks, espionage or anything else abroad. There are a handful of individuals who’ve faced trial or court martial for killing or mistreating people under occupation, most of them many years ago and (as Katz reminded everyone last night) an obviously and increasingly racist system of justice that operates there. In short there’s no alternative to the ICC getting involved.
Sadly though I think providing an alternative (the establishment of a relatively independent tribunal within Israel) is going to be the most likely way in which these warrants go away; that tribunal will tear Netanyahu up (for his failures before October 7th and afterwards) and do nothing about the multitude killed in Gaza, but it will be enough for the ICC to drop this.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Tells you how cavalier and vindictive the Israeli assault has been even compared to those disasters.
teqniq
DisMembered
HeAthen
Nadgers.
What an absolute prick.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Proper whataboutery there from Mazzig. Did he raise any objections to the invasion of Iraq? I don't think he did. I'd like to see him in the dock at The Hague. In fact, anyone who propagandises on behalf of Netanyahu's mobster regime should face justice.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Shit-kicking cunt.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Headline from Haaretz. I wonder how long it'll be before Netanyahu tries to close them down?
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Moves to something similar have been suggested.
Israel targets Haaretz after publisher calls Palestinians 'freedom fighters' see
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Thought this was interesting article
www.newstatesman.com
It goes into the history of left/ progressive support for Israel/ Zionism.
There was a time post war when support for Israel ( the Labour Zionist version) was the norm.
Partly due to it being seen as building socialism and also due to Holocaust.
Back then there was little interest in Palestinians.
Generally the historiography put forward by Israel was accepted. That Palestinians left due to other Arab countries encouraging them. Etc. The Nakba was never mentioned
It wasn't until later , though the article doesn't mention this, that the Israeli new historians revised this version of history.
Change started to happen in 67. With Israel occupying West Bank and Gaza.
Then in early 80s the attack on Lebanon to remove PLO.
Support for Labour Zionism goes back to early days of Labour party. Explains why it's been such a contentious issue in the party. It's not just about Starmer. Support for (Labour) Zionism has deep roots in the party going back decades.
Zionism’s long 20th century
With the Middle East in flames, Britain’s relationship with Israel will transform again.
www.newstatesman.com
It goes into the history of left/ progressive support for Israel/ Zionism.
There was a time post war when support for Israel ( the Labour Zionist version) was the norm.
Partly due to it being seen as building socialism and also due to Holocaust.
Back then there was little interest in Palestinians.
Generally the historiography put forward by Israel was accepted. That Palestinians left due to other Arab countries encouraging them. Etc. The Nakba was never mentioned
It wasn't until later , though the article doesn't mention this, that the Israeli new historians revised this version of history.
Change started to happen in 67. With Israel occupying West Bank and Gaza.
Then in early 80s the attack on Lebanon to remove PLO.
Support for Labour Zionism goes back to early days of Labour party. Explains why it's been such a contentious issue in the party. It's not just about Starmer. Support for (Labour) Zionism has deep roots in the party going back decades.
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HeAthen
Nadgers.
Fascism in action.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Yes and her evasive answer is in stark contrast with Irish PM,
teqniq
DisMembered
I suspect that the lack of any comment on the ICC arrest warrants is because Lammy knows that as the UK is a signatory to the Rome Statute we should uphold and be prepared to act on arrest warrants issued by them.
I really can't imagine why neither he nor Stasrmer would not make a statement on this.
* Removes tongue from cheek *
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