Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[HeAthen]

She's the Home Secretary , a post of which I got the impression was responsible for law enforcement

Precisely. If it's a matter for anyone it's her.

 

[HeAthen]

Headline from Haaretz. I wonder how long it'll be before Netanyahu tries to close them down?

Netanyahu brought the ICC ruling on himself and now he's whining about antisemitism

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www.haaretz.com

 

[HeAthen]

You've also got some people using this line as to why netanyahu shouldn't have an arrest warrant taken out on him. Personally I'd be more than happy for all of them and others to be charged and tried as well.

 

[agricola]

You've also got some people using this line as to why netanyahu shouldn't have an arrest warrant taken out on him. Personally I'd be more than happy for all of them and others to be charged and tried as well.

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As MEE and others pointed out yesterday, a big part (probably the most significant part) of the reason why the three above were not charged by the ICC is because there have been Parliamentary and judicial procedures against those individuals / people associated with those acts in their countries. They might have been insufficient procedures, the people responsible might have evaded the sentences that many people thought they should have faced, but there was an attempt at an independent reckoning and that has usually been enough to dissuade the ICC.

Contrast this with the complete and well-documented absence of nearly any legal consequences to individuals for Israeli military / political actions during the occupation, or indeed for anything else carried out “for the state” such as assassinations, terror attacks, espionage or anything else abroad. There are a handful of individuals who’ve faced trial or court martial for killing or mistreating people under occupation, most of them many years ago and (as Katz reminded everyone last night) an obviously and increasingly racist system of justice that operates there. In short there’s no alternative to the ICC getting involved.

Sadly though I think providing an alternative (the establishment of a relatively independent tribunal within Israel) is going to be the most likely way in which these warrants go away; that tribunal will tear Netanyahu up (for his failures before October 7th and afterwards) and do nothing about the multitude killed in Gaza, but it will be enough for the ICC to drop this.

 

[JimW]

You've also got some people using this line as to why netanyahu shouldn't have an arrest warrant taken out on him. Personally I'd be more than happy for all of them and others to be charged and tried as well.

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Tells you how cavalier and vindictive the Israeli assault has been even compared to those disasters.