Grenfell Tower fire in North Kensington - news and discussion

[SpookyFrank]

I would recommend not looking at teh front page of the Telegraph if you want to maintain low blood pressure levels

Thankfully, nobody reads the Telegraph any more.

 

[YouSir]

Just heading home, pub after protest. Where was the Telegraph picture from? Only ruckus I saw was some right wing bloke starting. Anyway, decent turnout for the timing. Too much 'oh Jeremy Corbyn' and sound systems. Not the time for either. Lots of anger too, not seen such a raw reaction on a protest in years.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Thankfully, nobody reads the Telegraph any more.

What's that? Sixteen runs needed off the last two overs? Really?

 

[newbie]

somewhat different focus in the way they present it online

 

[SpookyFrank]

Where was the Telegraph picture from?

It's a shit photo. Anything could be happening there.

 

[tim]

It can be difficult to see the electoral register. There used to be one in every post office, but that no longer seems to be the case.

I tried to look at one in the public library in my home town last year, but they no longer keep one, the excuse being that it is constantly being updated / financial reasons. I was sent to the Town Hall reception, where I was asked exactly I wanted to see, and shown just that. I meant to mention it on here, can't remember if I did.

They used to keep a copy in Kensington library on Hornton Street. I might drop by and see if it is still available, or if you have to lodge a formal request to see it. RBKC is always sending letters asking for updates on who lives where, and although the ER will list only adults who are registered to vote, it might give some idea of who is missing in the area, although as harpo says, a walk down Portobello shows that.

Don't most people opt out of being on the public register, these days?

 

[ska invita]

re Telegprah front page, can anyone find the "corbyn backers spread fake news about blaze toll!" piece online? I cant seem to...

 

[YouSir]

True, far be it from me to put complete bullshit beyond them.

 

[Lurdan]

re Telegprah front page, can anyone find the "corbyn backers spread fake news about blaze toll!" piece online? I cant seem to...

There's some shite I can't be bothered to read at Guido Fawkes.

 

[UrbaneFox]

It's a shit photo. Anything could be happening there.

They've chosen one that looks a bit like Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[albionism]

 

[UrbaneFox]

Don't most people opt out of being on the public register, these days?

I didn't know that you could.

 

[newbie]

re Telegprah front page, can anyone find the "corbyn backers spread fake news about blaze toll!" piece online? I cant seem to...

Corbyn supporters spread 'fake news' about Grenfell Tower death toll

 

[not-bono-ever]

Katrina May is an abandoned hulk, drifting aimlessly,no direction. She needs be be scuppered

 

[ska invita]

Corbyn supporters spread 'fake news' about Grenfell Tower death toll

cheers...not sure why it wasnt coming up for me

theyve really milked some crap off squakbox
squakbox posts shit is hardly front page news!

 

[tim]

I didn't know that you could.

There's a fairly prominent opt out box you can tick when you register
I ticked it so I assume anyone who doesn't want junk mail does too.

 

[teqniq]

Corbyn supporters spread 'fake news' about Grenfell Tower death toll

This is fucking desperate shite.

 

[YouSir]

This is fucking desperate shite.

What's behind the story? If anything? Won't click a Telegraph link until the story's about one of their journos dangling from a lamp post.

 

[newbie]

cheers...not sure why it wasnt coming up for me

theyve really milked some crap off squakbox
squakbox posts shit is hardly front page news!

I searched on the authors name, ie had to know it was there. Which is what i meant about the online presentation being so different from the paper. Different audience, much more likely to call bullshit.

 

[newbie]

What's behind the story? If anything? Won't click a Telegraph link until the story's about one of their journos dangling from a lamp post.

no idea, it's useless clickbait propaganda, you have to pay to read it. Skwawkbox is mentioned as ska invita said

 

[Fingers]

They have gone peak daily mail. Panic has set in at telegraph Towers

Mustafa Almansur: Who is the organiser of the Grenfell Tower protest movement?

 

[teqniq]

What's behind the story? If anything? Won't click a Telegraph link until the story's about one of their journos dangling from a lamp post.

here is a sample

Tension among residents was ramped up by suggestions that the Government had gagged the media in an attempt to manage public anger about the inferno.

The claims - all of them completely false - were spread by far-left supporters of Jeremy Corbyn including pop stars and socialist blogs.

They could now be examined by MPs as part of an ongoing parliamentary inquiry into “fake news”....

 

[equationgirl]

It can be difficult to see the electoral register. There used to be one in every post office, but that no longer seems to be the case.

I tried to look at one in the public library in my home town last year, but they no longer keep one, the excuse being that it is constantly being updated / financial reasons. I was sent to the Town Hall reception, where I was asked exactly I wanted to see, and shown just that. I meant to mention it on here, can't remember if I did.

They used to keep a copy in Kensington library on Hornton Street. I might drop by and see if it is still available, or if you have to lodge a formal request to see it. RBKC is always sending letters asking for updates on who lives where, and although the ER will list only adults who are registered to vote, it might give some idea of who is missing in the area, although as harpo says, a walk down Portobello shows that.

Suspect that is related to the data protection act and safeguarding individual personal information.

 

[teqniq]

no idea, it's useless clickbait propaganda, you have to pay to read it. Skwawkbox is mentioned as ska invita said

You don't have to pay, at least I don't.

 

[newbie]

You don't have to pay, at least I don't.

how so?

 

[sunnysidedown]

no idea, it's useless clickbait propaganda, you have to pay to read it. Skwawkbox is mentioned as ska invita said

I think their target was Aaron Bastani who tweeted the original story and backed it up in a following tweet.
The lad needs to better check his sources as it looks like they/he were fed a slippery fish.

 

[teqniq]

how so?

I dunno I just clicked on the link and it takes me straight to the piece. i don't seem to have any problems accessing Torygraph stuff even though it's supposed to be pay to view.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I dunno I just clicked on the link and it takes me straight to the piece. i don't seem to have ant problems accessing Torygraph stuff even though it's supposed to be pay to view.

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[taffboy gwyrdd]

Just wanted to say, outside of the shit circs, this thread has imo been urban at its best. Thanks.

 

[mather]

A few hours ago me and one of my neighbours went to the local Methodist church by Grenfell Tower where people had set up a makeshift memorial with cards, flowers and candles outside the church. Even at 11 in the evening there were still people there, some signing, some crying and others just quietly remembering those who were lost in this horrible (and preventable) tragedy. One thing I noticed when looking at all the cards and the missing posters for people who have yet to be found or confirmed dead is the number of children and babies, not to mention whole families stretching across three generations who all perished. It was heartbreaking to know that most were probably dead and that among the survivors are people who still don't know for sure whether their relatives and loved ones are alive or not.