The 2 million was based purely on a number that Michael Eavis got into his head and I suspect was based on the number of (multiple) hits See Tickets received on ticket day in 2005 rather than actual numbers trying to get hold of a ticket. Even the 400k included a considerable number of duplicate registrations. The fact of the matter remains that in 2007 if you really wanted to get a ticket you could still get one without breaking all laws of probability.
Glastonbury 2008
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The 2 million was based purely on a number that Michael Eavis got into his head and I suspect was based on the number of (multiple) hits See Tickets received on ticket day in 2005 rather than actual numbers trying to get hold of a ticket. Even the 400k included a considerable number of duplicate registrations. The fact of the matter remains that in 2007 if you really wanted to get a ticket you could still get one without breaking all laws of probability.
Mcpilton for the masses
In many ways I prefer it on the telly. No mud, great view of the best bands, feet up, tea and toast, dry rizzlas etc etc.
Glastonbury 1993, 1994, 1995, 2000, 2002, 2003 weather!!!!!
Fantastic weather in the SE and many other places this weekend just gone btw. Who would have predicted cloudless blue skies and constant sunshine so early in February? Almost as unlikely as something similar late in June .... 
Fantastic weather in the SE and many other places this weekend just gone btw. Who would have predicted cloudless blue skies and constant sunshine so early in February? Almost as unlikely as something similar late in June ....
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It's the world's largest green-field arts and music festival and one of the most well known festivals on the planet. The biggest acts in the world play there. The global TV audience is enormous.
Now toddle along.
david dissadent
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*yawns*
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hiraethified
This is the music forum and to people with an interest in music, Glastonbury is not a 'minority interest' - it's one of the biggest and most important music festivals on the planet.
Not necessarily
See my earlier posts -- I have plenty of respect for your position and for where you're coming from -- I do understand why some have stopped going. Good valid reasons etc.
However I don't think comments from someone who's never been in his entire life and is only in this thread to check out wooden spoon useability, are worth more than a row of beans though.
William, I have read pretty much every single post in this thread over a period of time & it does concern me that you seem to categorise a majority of the posts that criticise the festival as being trolling when a lot of them, from my perspective, are genuine criticisms of the reasons why so many regulars have decided that enough is enough and it is time to move on. I think in instances like this, where the subject is so emotive to you, you just need to learn to ignore rather than respond. And that's me talking as a mate, & as someone who held exactly the same "Eavis-can-do-no-wrong" mentality on this subject as you still do, not 12 months ago.
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Not in the music forum, trollboy.
corporate whore
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Watched 'Glastonbury The Movie**' (1993) last night.
**ie the FILM, in normal UK language ..
Has anyone seen this film? Was anyone there that year? Remarkably sunny!!!
That was the first year I went - never even heard of the film, though. Is it rent-able? Would like to see it, might fill in some, er, gaps..
It was a fucking scorcher, mind.
My parents have never been to a festival ... long may that continue!!
my mum and dad used to come on site at stonehenge, looking for their three (grown up) children.
We used to run about telling each other to straighten up, stash everything and get it together cos the folks were coming round the corner
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No need for you to shove in your oar thanks phil. I'm not interested in discussing it any further.
Well I am. And it is my contention that "sizeable minority" perfectly describes the proportion of British people who take an interest in the Glastonbury festival. Even the festival's staunchest supporters do not claim that they hold the attention of a majority of British citizens. By the same token, only the most extreme opponents of Glastonbury would pretend that interest is limited to an insignificant rump. So "sizeable minority" is the most apt phrase in my opinion.
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Jolly good. Oh, but hold on. That's not what chymaera was claiming in the first place! Oh well.
I don't claim Eavis can do no wrong and never have done -- that's a distortion of my position.
I have plenty of reservations and criticisms of some aspects of the festival myself and have made some at times. Freespirit and newbie had some informed and accurate and in fs's case pretty cutting criticisms of some aspects of the festival, particularly the running and setup. I agreed with him and said so. I also fully understand why some think the thing has become too big and I'm no fan of 'Festival Republic' or of creeping commercialism generally
The fact remains that both chymaera and bouncer the dog -- especially the latter -- really were trolling and shitstirring.
A lot of my recent posts have just been focussed on one aspect, admittedly an obsession of mine : correcting the widespread impression that another mudbath is inevitable, contrary to a lot of peoples opinions the chances of a dry one in 2008 are perfectly reasonable.
That doesn't mean in any way that I think the festival is beyond criticism overall, as you should know well enough. I just prefer to read criticisms from people who know what they're talking about, or who aren't determined to see nothing good in the festival whatsoever
Knowing what you're talking about and not being completely onesided** about the fest makes some good and valid and strong criticisms go further and worth more. Criticisms such as yours. I've been very careful to confine suggestions of trolling to those who really were only diving into the thread wooden spoon in hand and with an axe to grind.
**As in : far more onesidedly hostile than I've ever been onesidedly positive!!
That was the first year I went - never even heard of the film, though. Is it rent-able? Would like to see it, might fill in some, er, gaps..
It was a fucking scorcher, mind.
I was able to buy this film for Deb before Christmas. Check Google or Amazon for 'Glastonbury The Movie (1993)'
bouncer_the_dog
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Bollocks was I trolling. I was criticising the festival. And you can't handle it because you love it so much. The only reason I'd consider not posting on this thread is because I would worry its stressing you out too much. As I have met you in RL and you are a very nice chap. At the moment I am not going to moderate my views on Glasto because they upset you, but maybe I'll have to. On this thread at least.
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and , imo, counterproductive. I'd personally prefer the views of the anti's to take hold amongst the populace at large. I'd like it to be thought of as a seething mass of commercialisation, sold out long ago, with the filthiest toilets, the muddiest swamps and the drunkenest middleclass wannabe minority of minorities on the planet. Unfit, in other words, for anyone to aspire to go to, whether they be young and trendy, old and grouchy or of the been there, done that, washed the car with the tshirt variety. I want a mass movement to protest about the wastage of license-payers money in broadcasting hours of bands and vacuous dj's. I want people who understand this stuff to whinge mightily about how appalling the line-up is, and how no-one could possibly imagine being in the same field as any of the headliners. I want a tide of complaint, led by those whose criticisms are informed by personal experience and by those who know only what they read on teletext, about the corruption of the youth of the nation, both from the perspective of the Daily Mail (bring back National Service) and from Class War (tear down the fence). I want Eavis reviled as a self serving capitalist pig, his daughter laughed at in gossip columns and all the corporate organisations involved exposed for the arms dealers and exploiters they so obviously are. I want to see ever greater detail about the mass of Health & Safety Nazi regulations and patronising nannying. I'd like to see every organisational problem exposed as a symbol of absolute failure to live up to the dream. I want every weather forecast to show the end of June to be wet & miserable. Most of all I want everybody to chorus that it ain't like it used to be and there's no point in going.
with not a single voice, anywhere, to support the festival in any way at all.
then maybe they'll all bugger off and leave us to have our festival in peace.
and , imo, counterproductive. I'd personally prefer the views of the anti's to take hold amongst the populace at large. I'd like it to be thought of as a seething mass of commercialisation, sold out long ago, with the filthiest toilets, the muddiest swamps and the drunkenest middleclass wannabe minority of minorities on the planet. Unfit, in other words, for anyone to aspire to go to, whether they be young and trendy, old and grouchy or of the been there, done that, washed the car with the tshirt variety. I want a mass movement to protest about the wastage of license-payers money in broadcasting hours of bands and vacuous dj's. I want people who understand this stuff to whinge mightily about how appalling the line-up is, and how no-one could possibly imagine being in the same field as any of the headliners. I want a tide of complaint, led by those whose criticisms are informed by personal experience and by those who know only what they read on teletext, about the corruption of the youth of the nation, both from the perspective of the Daily Mail (bring back National Service) and from Class War (tear down the fence). I want Eavis reviled as a self serving capitalist pig, his daughter laughed at in gossip columns and all the corporate organisations involved exposed for the arms dealers and exploiters they so obviously are. I want to see ever greater detail about the mass of Health & Safety Nazi regulations and patronising nannying. I'd like to see every organisational problem exposed as a symbol of absolute failure to live up to the dream. I want every weather forecast to show the end of June to be wet & miserable. Most of all I want everybody to chorus that it ain't like it used to be and there's no point in going.
with not a single voice, anywhere, to support the festival in any way at all.
then maybe they'll all bugger off and leave us to have our festival in peace.
Looby
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vast
and , imo, counterproductive. I'd personally prefer the views of the anti's to take hold amongst the populace at large. I'd like it to be thought of as a seething mass of commercialisation, sold out long ago, with the filthiest toilets, the muddiest swamps and the drunkenest middleclass wannabe minority of minorities on the planet. Unfit, in other words, for anyone to aspire to go to, whether they be young and trendy, old and grouchy or of the been there, done that, washed the car with the tshirt variety. I want a mass movement to protest about the wastage of license-payers money in broadcasting hours of bands and vacuous dj's. I want people who understand this stuff to whinge mightily about how appalling the line-up is, and how no-one could possibly imagine being in the same field as any of the headliners. I want a tide of complaint, led by those whose criticisms are informed by personal experience and by those who know only what they read on teletext, about the corruption of the youth of the nation, both from the perspective of the Daily Mail (bring back National Service) and from Class War (tear down the fence). I want Eavis reviled as a self serving capitalist pig, his daughter laughed at in gossip columns and all the corporate organisations involved exposed for the arms dealers and exploiters they so obviously are. I want to see ever greater detail about the mass of Health & Safety Nazi regulations and patronising nannying. I'd like to see every organisational problem exposed as a symbol of absolute failure to live up to the dream. I want every weather forecast to show the end of June to be wet & miserable. Most of all I want everybody to chorus that it ain't like it used to be and there's no point in going.
with not a single voice, anywhere, to support the festival in any way at all.
then maybe they'll all bugger off and leave us to have our festival in peace.
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
Nice one.
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
I was able to buy this film for Deb before Christmas. Check Google or Amazon for 'Glastonbury The Movie (1993)'
and indeed, nice one.
david dissadent
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Hot Chip to headline the other stage. Meh.
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Triple Meh. On toast.
I imagine this will lead to a significant downgrading of public interest in the event. Most probably no-one will be very interested at all.
david dissadent
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You dont seem to understand the music bussiness and who is who in it. Once the Radio1 megaphones get turned on, all the little scene kids will think it is going to be the greatest event of there lives. Radio 1 gives Glastonbury increadible amounts of free advertising in return for forming a strong brand association with the festival to gain credibility for its DJs by associating them with such a 'cool' brand. The BBC get more sponsorship milage out of Glasto than virtualy any other co-branding excersize in the UK entertainment industry.
