Garage boss: I'm being driven out of Hackney by hipsters
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In thon white square thingy just above the skirting board.
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Yeh so one tine for status, one for authority, one for influence like in weber's tripartite notion of power I suppose
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So many particulars. So many questions.
two pin plugs means no influence tine, a strange metaphor for brexit etc
not sure what round pins signifies
This thread is 27 pages long and no doubt I'm going to look like a massive arse after.
So I watched some commentary on the fuck parade where they stood around that Cereal Killer cafe and jeered.
Now I fully get that a) gentrification is a reality and b) it's shit.
But it seemed that picking on a couple of guys who fit an amusing social profile, just for running a gimmicky cafe, was really a case of picking on low hanging fruit, and mobhanded.
Now I'll be the first to admit if I've got this wrong, but surely they are not the problem. They aren't Abercrombie and Fitch.
It makes me a bit uncomfortable when I hear, and again maybe i'm wrong, to see people like this getting bullied. Maybe they are a couple of proper little cunts, I don't know. But surely this is all pandering to stereotypes of the working class that the bourgeoisie hold: that the working class don't need or can't appreciate culture and only want to run 'traditional' vocations etc.
Or am i missing the point?
So I watched some commentary on the fuck parade where they stood around that Cereal Killer cafe and jeered.
Now I fully get that a) gentrification is a reality and b) it's shit.
But it seemed that picking on a couple of guys who fit an amusing social profile, just for running a gimmicky cafe, was really a case of picking on low hanging fruit, and mobhanded.
Now I'll be the first to admit if I've got this wrong, but surely they are not the problem. They aren't Abercrombie and Fitch.
It makes me a bit uncomfortable when I hear, and again maybe i'm wrong, to see people like this getting bullied. Maybe they are a couple of proper little cunts, I don't know. But surely this is all pandering to stereotypes of the working class that the bourgeoisie hold: that the working class don't need or can't appreciate culture and only want to run 'traditional' vocations etc.
Or am i missing the point?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
A cafe selling breakfast cereal to twats is not what I would call 'culture' personally. And it's rich twats doing stupid shit like that which is helping make it impossible for ordinary folk to start a business doing something with a point to it. Working class people are never going to be able to compete with these trust-fund wankbuckets selling jam jars full of gin to other trust-fund wankbuckets.
But I don't blame the hipster kids themselves. I blame the baby boomers for raising so many spoiled, ignorant, vain and entitled children in the first place, and for then bankrolling their stupidity with the money they've hoarded via the property market at the expense of future generations of working class people.
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Starry Wisdom
They are a couple of shits, and tbh businesses like that act as both cheerleaders for and accelerators of gentrification through being gimmicky, through displacing more socially useful businesses and through hastening the pace of change in the neighbourhood. A vile, vile enterprise. And it's not what I'd call culture.
Have people here had dealings with them? I don't want to just dismiss them because they fit an admittedly ridiculous social profile, I'd rather have good reason.
Not saying there aren't good reasons or that people haven't. I'm just curious. I don't live in what most would identify as a working class area, so I don't have much experience dealing with these issues directly.
You both make good points though.
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I haven't had dealings with them but that's because I find it such a flimsy premise. There's cafes do a decent range of breakfast foods, this is a niche business catering (in its loosest sense) for people with less sense than money who refuse to go to the preexisting cafes nearby which cater for the preexisting population
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Funnily enough I was just thinking about this thread the other day. The garage is now gone, replaced by a big garage-shaped bar - in fact the entire industrial estate is now devoid of any actual industry, it's all bars and galleries and such. I'll take a snap next time I'm around there.
And while I'm sure as individuals the owners won't necessarily be arseholes, fact is once a couple of sets of them come in and declare an area safe for gentrification it's open season for whoever holds the lease on a given building to ratchet up rent prices and get in a higher-paying sort of clientele. So what d'you do? Just let them get on with it and move yourself further and further out of town? Kick off whenever a set of hipsters set up shop and be accused of bullying? No easy answers really.
And while I'm sure as individuals the owners won't necessarily be arseholes, fact is once a couple of sets of them come in and declare an area safe for gentrification it's open season for whoever holds the lease on a given building to ratchet up rent prices and get in a higher-paying sort of clientele. So what d'you do? Just let them get on with it and move yourself further and further out of town? Kick off whenever a set of hipsters set up shop and be accused of bullying? No easy answers really.
Lurdan
old wave
My perception at the time was that Class War had no intention of presenting Cereal Killers as the 'face' of gentrification in Brick Lane. They were simply a target of opportunity on the Fuck Parade route. The Cereal Killers being no fools promptly generated a lot of 'poor us' publicity around the theme of being wictimised by the nasty rough anarchists. Many campaigning groups would have immediately gone into PR bullshit mode at this point. Class War didn't - they enthusiastically took up the idea that 'hipsters' had indeed been a primary target all along and ran with it. But then Class War aren't silly. Unlike some of their 'supporters' who promptly set about arguing that Cereal Killers/Hipsters were indeed an advance guard of gentrification in Brick Lane. Which is complete and utter bollocks.
I think I can speak for many other residents of Tower Hamlets when I say how much we absolutely LOVE having people come and explain 'gentrification' to us.
Cereal Killers are, in my opinion, obnoxious wankers who in a just world wouldn't simply have their window stickered but be dragged out and given a good bath and a shave. But Brick Lane hasn't been any kind of local high street for decades. The top half where Cereal Killers are located was 'camdenized' a quarter of a century ago and since then large numbers of businesses catering to artists, bohemians, fashionistas, tourists and even some local people have come and gone and been replaced by others. It is no more 'hipsterised' today than it has been since the turn of the century. If anything much of it is looking a little down at heel.
There are other parts of London where obnoxious 'hipster' entrepreneurs are indeed 'accelerators for gentrification' - Brick Lane isn't one of them. Not only has that ship sailed, but current planning battle lines between city developers, conservationists and the considerable local investment in Brick Lane as a tourist destination mean that it's future is not going to be determined by whatever arseholes start small businesses in it.
However that's no reason not to point out to exceedingly annoying twats how annoyed you are.
I've popped into this thread a few times, but can't be arsed to read 27 pages to see if it's been covered already. If so sorry.
Anyway, is this place now 'Mick's Garage'?
Mick's Garage - London nightclub
I hope that this bloke wasn't kicked out and his name used against his will? Is he a part of the venture now?
Anyway, is this place now 'Mick's Garage'?
Mick's Garage - London nightclub
I hope that this bloke wasn't kicked out and his name used against his will? Is he a part of the venture now?
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It's the hipster way to keep auld signs in a doubtless ironick way
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