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Garage boss: I'm being driven out of Hackney by hipsters

Batboy, sorry to hear about your situation. I do think you should think about some of that phrasing. What you describe is simply how all developers behave. They are secretive so as to keep out the competition, do dodgy deals with the council and with their mates/family, don't give a fuck about anyone else. They behave, by and large, like scum. I just don't think it is helpful to identify their ethnicity as an issue.
Nicely put.
 
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Is this bubble not gonna burst when all those trust funds finally run out? A small industrial unit at over £1000 a week, there's no way that space is ever gonna be profitable unless it's used as a meth lab or something.

Maybe this whole hipster thing is just being used as a money pit to create losses for the benefit of the taxman. Whatever income you can't move offshore, you just give it to your idiot children to piss down the drain.
 
...When the developers (who were Orthodox Jews) won the day they sold the development to another consortium of Orthodox Jews for 10 million...
The urge to be a dodgy, secretive, mendacious, grasping, tax-avoiding scumbag is blind to colour and creed. Why mention their Jewishness? There are plenty of cunts in your part of the world (the S.E.) and, indeed, everywhere else who indulge in such practises and they aren't Jews -orthodox or otherwise.
 
Is this bubble not gonna burst when all those trust funds finally run out? A small industrial unit at over £1000 a week, there's no way that space is ever gonna be profitable unless it's used as a meth lab or something.

Maybe this whole hipster thing is just being used as a money pit to create losses for the benefit of the taxman. Whatever income you can't move offshore, you just give it to your idiot children to piss down the drain.
It's not powered by trust funds or in fact "arty types" at all. The young moneyed middle classes have certain fashions but it's no different to going to wine bars and listening to Huey Lewis & The News in the 80s. Yuppies selling to yuppies.
 
The hipsters moving in will probably have lower levels of car ownership than the working class communities being forced out. So increasing demand for craft beer and decreasing demand for car garages.


but more bike workshops, and the cycle of life goes on

actually, gentrification is not a 'natural process' as some on here seem to think, in Berlin it is being robustly opposed.
 
This time around it is far more profound as globalisation has seen London swarmed with overseas investors out to make a quick buck, the Chinese and Russian nouveau rich will flee once they have made money and take it to another country.

this, countries are for sale now just as labour has been.
 
TBH factories in Hackneywick replaced housing that was there in the early 20C. My Great Grandmother lived on the street adjacent to that White House Crate place. Which business did his 23 year old one replace.

There's always been population churn in London. Important not to confuse that with wider property price crisis and trickle up economics.
 
but more bike workshops, and the cycle of life goes on

actually, gentrification is not a 'natural process' as some on here seem to think, in Berlin it is being robustly opposed.
Amazing - you suggest that the process is natural then moan that people on here think the process is natural!

Are you quite sure that you'd be supportive of berlin style actions over here? If cars started getting torched, if people had paint thrown on them, had hot food thrown on them etc
 
Eventually the hipsters get squeezed out by Russian and Chinese money, this is already happening with some amount of squealing and a bit more attention from the media than WC communities would ever get.

Last week I was chatting to someone who lives in Sydney who said lots of British graphic designers had moved there recently, giving up on the London bullshit where you have no chance of settling anywhere properly. From their account Sydney isn't much better (centre flooded with expensive new-builds bought primarily by Chinese investors, city suburbs already out of reach of most) but maybe a little bit behind London.

I know a fair few people who have or are about to relocate back to the north from London too. It's getting hollowed out.

The Chinese economy is stalling(see excellent thread on global economy) what would happen if there was a economic crash in china?
 
It's not powered by trust funds or in fact "arty types" at all. The young moneyed middle classes have certain fashions but it's no different to going to wine bars and listening to Huey Lewis & The News in the 80s. Yuppies selling to yuppies.


yes, but now they have colonised the space that allowed for anyone to be bohemian, different, etc, you need a lot of cash to have the full on hipster look/lifestyle,
 
Amazing - you suggest that the process is natural then moan that people on here think the process is natural!

Are you quite sure that you'd be supportive of berlin style actions over here? If cars started getting torched, if people had paint thrown on them, had hot food thrown on them etc


The first comment was sarcasm, no I don't support violence on the individual, the remaining communities should if they can get more organised, like the Focus mums have.
 
I'm all in favour of new, small(ish) breweries, even (sometimes! :hmm: ) when they annoyingly term themselves 'craft'. And we bloody well need more of them here in or near Wales more than London needs them.

But in the case of the story in the OP, all my sympathies are with the garage man.
 
I'm all in favour of new, small(ish) breweries, even (sometimes! :hmm: ) when they annoyingly term themselves 'craft'. And we bloody well need more of them here in or near Wales more than London needs them.

But in the case of the story in the OP, all my sympathies are with the garage man.
yeh cos you can't get better than a kwik-fit fitter
 
I'm all in favour of new, small(ish) breweries, even (sometimes! :hmm: ) when they annoyingly term themselves 'craft'. And we bloody well need more of them here in or near Wales more than London needs them.

If I were opening a brewery I'd open it in Wales, or the midlands, or somewhere where a few extra jobs would be more sorely needed. More importantly, commercial rents would be much cheaper. And you'd not be diving in to such an overcrowded market.

As for 'craft' beer, the only thing this ever seems to mean is that the beer comes in smaller containers and costs more money. It also implies the existence of non-craft beer, where they presumaby just chuck a load of stuff in a bucket, leave it for a few weeks and hope for the best. It's beer. There are only four ingredients. Where do you get off claiming that you put more 'craft' into yours athan anywhere else?

Most of these 'craft' microbreweries use modern, automated equipment anyway. The brewing equivalent of a breadmaker.
 
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There's actually no agreed definition of 'craft'. By anyone, and certainly not within CAMRA, where there are more types of disagreements about it than there are relevant breweries.

So in short I agree with you SpookyFrank :)
 
I meant the other trades he mentioned more than garages really. But if garages of that type really are having to shut down** to be replaced by much more upmarket property development, then that signifies something pretty unhealthy IMO.

**(and if you're questioning whether that's true, say why maybe?)
 
I expect there probably is less of a market for car repair services these days. It seems quite common for people to fuck off a fairly new, perfectly decent car and just buy a new one. My sister seems to have some kind of financing deal going that actively encourages her to get a new car every two years, it's mental.

e2a: And there's probably less bits of a modern car that a mechanic can actually fix. If the computer's gone on your new Audi I daresay you have to get Audi to sort it out for you, not Brian from down the road.
 
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