Finsbury Park Terror Attack

[ViolentPanda]

Beats & Pieces why not just go out on the street and shout random angry noises and stuff at passers-by for catharsis instead of doing it here. Lot of it about today in this hot weather.

Because passers-by are less likely to engage with rants that mention Jacques Derrida/more likely to give him a shoeing than posters here.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Serious question here. What's wrong with quoting Ed Husain?

Depending on who you believe (and I believe no-one) Husain is either a state asset (i.e. an MI5 agent) leading good Muslims away from righteousness, or an Islamist double agent. All I'll say about Husain is that I don't believe in treating him as an authority purely based on his work at Quillam.

 

[frogwoman]

Depending on who you believe (and I believe no-one) Husain is either a state asset (i.e. an MI5 agent) leading good Muslims away from righteousness, or an Islamist double agent. All I'll say about Husain is that I don't believe in treating him as an authority purely based on his work at Quillam.

Seriously? What's he said?

 

[1927]

and the suggestion is he's been fired from his job as well

where are you getting that?

 

[gawkrodger]

where are you getting that?

think it was a Telegraph article which stated he is/was employed by Eddie Stobart, that they were aware of the posts and had taken 'appropriate action'

 

[ViolentPanda]

why do you have to make your posts so unreadable, Beats & Pieces ?
It's like you are trying to make yourself as abstruse as you can to demonstrate your intellect

That would be sad, as demonstration of intellect is usually about making abstruse ideas as understandable as possible.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are people cool with the Rothschild Khazars being behind it all ? Fuck you J.C.Decaux .

I don't take any explanation including "Rothschild Khazars", "Subbotniks" or any sort of "false Jew"/"real Jew" dyad as being worthy of getting angry about. Reference to such is enough to mark the explainer as unworthy of attention.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It's either ern trying to cause a stink for the lolz or a far-right scumbucket, imo.

The two might even have become interchangeable, given his sojourn in Norfolk.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Seriously? What's he said?

Someone mentioned him in an article cited, that's all.

 

[ManchesterBeth]

Hope you're well

ViolentPanda

 

[Corax]

Because passers-by are less likely to engage with rants that mention Jacques Derrida/more likely to give him a shoeing than posters here.

Sounds like bimble made a quite excellent suggestion in that case.

 

[Pickman's model]

Because passers-by are less likely to engage with rants that mention Jacques Derrida/more likely to give him a shoeing than posters here.

Bnp pronounces it jacques derriere

 

[Corax]

Depending on who you believe (and I believe no-one) Husain is either a state asset (i.e. an MI5 agent) leading good Muslims away from righteousness, or an Islamist double agent. All I'll say about Husain is that I don't believe in treating him as an authority purely based on his work at Quillam.

Interesting. I've yet to work out what the earthly point of Quilliam is tbh*, especially after the Yaxley-Lennon debacle.

Would I be right in guessing that similar accusations are levelled at Majid Nawaaz in that case? I rather like him tbh - or from what I've seen/heard of him as a broadcast journalist anyway.

*ETA: I probably have the same sensation about virtually any other self-described 'think tank' though. Although I'd still jump at any offer to work for one lol.

 

[Corax]

Bnp pronounces it jacques derriere

No - BNP linguistically fabricates the articulates of it jacques derriere

 

[Pickman's model]

No - BNP linguistically fabricates the articulates of it jacques derriere

His labial muscles in conjunction with the measured flow of exhalation vibrate the name of the French thinker in a postmodern manner articulated as jacques derriere

 

[ddraig]

the attacker apparently was living in a tent in woodland near to the house he was meant to be living in

 

[Riklet]

What a weirdo. Does it seem possible he had some kind of breakdown recently? Driving to London to do this kinda thing.... totally insane.

Also why has B&P not been banned yet? Constant ruining of serious threads

 

[ddraig]

this is the scumbag twitter account
Darren Osborne (@DarrenO96801499) on Twitter

 

[Celyn]

the attacker apparently was living in a tent in woodland near to the house he was meant to be living in

Odd, though, some "newspaper" stories had him living in a very normal and very "nice" house. And being usually civil to his neighbours, some of whom Muslim.

Oh well, the evil sod is looking at a big lot of time in prison.

 

[Celyn]

And, given that he has been caught alive, it is possible that he might, with a bit of persuasion, be able to mention other like-minded friends.

 

[The39thStep]

Interesting. I've yet to work out what the earthly point of Quilliam is tbh*, especially after the Yaxley-Lennon debacle.

Would I be right in guessing that similar accusations are levelled at Majid Nawaaz in that case? I rather like him tbh - or from what I've seen/heard of him as a broadcast journalist anyway.

*ETA: I probably have the same sensation about virtually any other self-described 'think tank' though. Although I'd still jump at any offer to work for one lol.

Depending on who you believe (and I believe no-one) Husain is either a state asset (i.e. an MI5 agent) leading good Muslims away from righteousness, or an Islamist double agent. All I'll say about Husain is that I don't believe in treating him as an authority purely based on his work at Quillam.

Or someone who turned his back on Islamacists and set up an organisation with other ex Islamacists that in my mind has come up with a critique and a strategy that has made more of a significant contribution than anything on the left.
There are others like Sarah Khan at Inspire who face similar smears .

 

[ManchesterBeth]

Interesting. I've yet to work out what the earthly point of Quilliam is tbh*, especially after the Yaxley-Lennon debacle.

Would I be right in guessing that similar accusations are levelled at Majid Nawaaz in that case? I rather like him tbh - or from what I've seen/heard of him as a broadcast journalist anyway.

*ETA: I probably have the same sensation about virtually any other self-described 'think tank' though. Although I'd still jump at any offer to work for one lol.

i wouldn't touch Nawaaz with a bargepole, associating with scum like Kevin Carroll and the Henry Jackson society, as well as being way too soft on bigots like Bill Maher and Sam Harris (who, let's remember in the end of faith) directly advocated racial profiling and nuking muslims if necessary.

The quilliam lot play into that abstract idea of the scriptures/teachings/theology being perverted without realising that the interpretations of scriptures correlate to whoever wields power. Scripture itself can't be divorced from material, political and social circumstances and relationships.

And I'm afraid (for so-called moderates) I'm not on the side of conservatism, even with a small c.

Daddy needs to be abolished.

 

[8den]

Spoiler: Cause it's fucking rank.

Edited cause no one needs to see that.

 

[Pickman's model]

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Vom

 

[frogwoman]

Police use stun gun on attack suspect at Regent's Park mosque

bloody hell

 

[Dogsauce]

this is the scumbag twitter account
Darren Osborne (@DarrenO96801499) on Twitter

Following Channel 4 News and Nicola Sturgeon, the piece of shit liberal elite filth.

 

[Raheem]

this is the scumbag twitter account
Darren Osborne (@DarrenO96801499) on Twitter

How do we know this? Wouldn't it have been deleted?

 

[Pickman's model]

How do we know this? Wouldn't it have been deleted?

why would it have been deleted?

 

[ddraig]

How do we know this? Wouldn't it have been deleted?

was reported with a screen shot, i typed in the long user name and copied the link

 

[Raheem]

why would it have been deleted?

My impression is that that's what normally happens with the social media accounts of high-profile murderers. But what's the reason for thinking this is the guy's account? Seems sus that it was set up in June 2017.