Finsbury Park Terror Attack

[binka]

any chance you can ask please?? many thanks in advance

Sorry yeah I nearly didn't post what I did because I don't like putting too much personal information out there, especially with something like this. Be a bit weird of me to ask about which pub it is considering I live a couple of hundred miles away so the answer wouldn't really matter to me anyway. I'd guess what Butchers said is correct anyway as I'd imagine there will be plenty of people with first hand accounts of it

 

[frogwoman]

Osborne also appears to have a Twitter account, which he has never used to send his own tweets, instead monitoring 32 other users, including Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen, the leaders of the far right party Britain First. Its mission statement states: “We will restore Christianity as the bedrock and foundation of our national life as it has been for the last one thousand years.”

fucking hell

 

[planetgeli]

We call on our army of white van-driving readers

The Sun

Lest we forget.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

The Hollybush according to the guardian.

Turns out my sister knew him and is mates with his sister. Reckons he was a typical small town hardman.

I drank at the Hollybush long ago. As such I would like to underline that this attack was not in my name.

I note though that he is originally from Somerset, but The Wurzels are strangely silent about this horror. What does that tell us?

 

[Corax]

The Hollybush according to the guardian.

Turns out my sister knew him and is mates with his sister. Reckons he was a typical small town hardman.

Several far right groups are active in south Wales. They include the South Wales National Front. Its leader, Adam Lloyd, denied any connection to the attacker. “The man in question is not known to any of us here in South Wales National Front, and to our knowledge is not and never has been a member,” he said. “Although we will never condone or accept this kind of violent attacks here in SWNF, anyone with a right mind can see this is not a terrorist attack but a revenge attack.”

WTAF is this now?

The mental twists and turns fash will take to justify hatred never ceases to amaze me.

 

[Corax]

The Sun

Lest we forget.

And not to mention:

 

[ddraig]

Sorry yeah I nearly didn't post what I did because I don't like putting too much personal information out there, especially with something like this. Be a bit weird of me to ask about which pub it is considering I live a couple of hundred miles away so the answer wouldn't really matter to me anyway. I'd guess what Butchers said is correct anyway as I'd imagine there will be plenty of people with first hand accounts of it

can you imagine that the answer matters to others?
and a good enough reason is that someone in Cardiff was asking no?
answered straight by BA anyway so don't worry yourself

 

[binka]

a good enough reason is that someone in Cardiff was asking no?

No not really but lets not have a row about it

 

[ddraig]

weak

 

[Treacle Toes]

weak

Back off. That's unnecessary. The explanation was good enough.

 

[ddraig]

Back off. That's unnecessary.

should have added excuse
weak excuse

 

[Treacle Toes]

should have added excuse
weak excuse

What is this to you? The explanation was good enough. Why bother?

 

[ddraig]

and wtf with your instruction of back off, no imo, no suggest?

 

[ddraig]

What is this to you? The explanation was good enough. Why bother?

pardon?? i live in fucking Cardiff, the explanation was not good enough no
is that good enough explanation for you??

 

[Treacle Toes]

pardon?? i live in fucking Cardiff, the explanation was not good enough no
is that good enough explanation for you??

Living in Cardiff doesn't mean you own everyone ffs! Binka didn't want to ask the added question for you with good reason. You got the info anyway but you are still flexing? Odd.

 

[ddraig]

Living in Cardiff doesn't mean you own everyone ffs! Binka didn't want to ask the added question for you with good reason. You got the info anyway but you are still flexing? Odd.

course i don't, why jump to that conclusion.
you can't see why someone in Cardiff would want to know which pub??

 

[Treacle Toes]

course i don't, why jump to that conclusion.
you can't see why someone in Cardiff would want to know which pub??

Of course I can. At the same time I would accept that someone didn't want to enquire in the way that Binka explained why. We don't know who their connections are and how that might be for them depending etc. Obvious to me. You can be more gracious about it.

 

[ddraig]

Of course I can. At the same time I would accept that someone didn't want to enquire in the way that Binka explained why. We don't know who their connections are and how that might be for them depending etc. Obvious to me. You can be more gracious about it.

are you saying they're racist scum too (people they know who were in the pub) and don't want to endanger themselves by asking??
you make your assumptions and i'll make my posts, that ok?

 

[ddraig]

fwiw i was objecting to "... I live a couple of hundred miles away so the answer wouldn't really matter to me anyway..."

e2a enough anyway

 

[Treacle Toes]

are you saying they're racist scum too and don't want to endanger themselves by asking??
you make your assumptions and i'll make my posts, that ok?

I am saying there can be very real reasons why people don't want to ask too many questions and post up the answers to those questions online.

I am not making assumptions ffs. You are not being generous and saying I live in Cardiff isn't a trump card for the above reason. Come on, you are usually more reasonable than this.

 

[Cid]

fwiw i was objecting to "... I live a couple of hundred miles away so the answer wouldn't really matter to me anyway..."

e2a enough anyway

Way to take something out of context. Fucking hell ddraig, you look like a right prick doing this. Leave it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

fwiw i was objecting to "... I live a couple of hundred miles away so the answer wouldn't really matter to me anyway..."

e2a enough anyway

That read to me as an attempt not to get more involved.

 

[ddraig]

enough anyway

I am saying there can be very real reasons why people don't want to ask too many questions and post up the answers to those questions online.

I am not making assumptions ffs. You are not being generous and saying I live in Cardiff isn't a trump card for the above reason. Come on, you are usually more reasonable than this.

i don't expect people to endanger themselves, they could pm
luckily the info is out there and BA posted it pdq
ffs it's not a trump card, it's a reason, sorry if not good enough for you

 

[ddraig]

That read to me as an attempt not to get more involved.

yeah, let's all "not get involved" jeez

going out to get away from this and other shit

 

[Corax]

course i don't, why jump to that conclusion.
you can't see why someone in Cardiff would want to know which pub??

I genuinely can't tbh. If it was presented as a far right base of some sort I could, but IIUC Osborne got in a barney for being a drunken racist turd and got booted out?

 

[ddraig]

I genuinely can't tbh. If it was presented as a far right base of some sort I could, but IIUC Osborne got in a barney for being a drunken racist turd and got booted out?

must be me then
if pub is known then and was discovered to be a base, a good idea surely to know surely?

 

[Corax]

must be me then
if pub is known then and was discovered to be a base, a good idea surely to know surely?

Fair enough, if you're suggesting you'd go and check it out on the off-chance - just not the way I read the Guardian article.

 

[Beats & Pieces]

On the evidence that the current Imam (ergo management) threw Abu Hamza out. Now fuck off.

With the help of the Police. Now you fuck off.

 

[J.C.Decaux]

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" I did my bit"

But for who and for what reason?

We need to find out how this terrorist was radicalised.


Yesterday I wore my prop-Palestinian t-shirt around C Ldn and on al-Quds, the stares of fecking hate was palpable, especially the filthy looks of the black cabs, which surprised me, as it had feck all to do with Islamic Salafi's.

So my question would be, for what reason did he wish to murder and do harm to as many innocent Muslims as possible?

Or was he radicalized by the British Media or from right wing websites?

 

[J.C.Decaux]

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With the help of the Police. Now you fuck off.

Who knew and let him preach there? Along with Qatada espousing their wahabi ideaology?

useful tools then, were they not?