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Is the Renault car illegal
It's been revealed that Renault are said to have used an illegal braking system, not only in Japan last weekend but also in previous races. This could cause problems in terms of championship points among other things. If the team are found guilty by the FIA then it causes a major threat against the image of the team. Renault are adjudged to have been using a banned built-in automatic brake balance adjustment.
The parts are currently being examined and a decision could be made as early as this week. "We will defend ourselves by all means against the allegations, " Cyril Abiteboul said. The team could be forced to pay a heavy fine and risk losing all World Cup points, and potential exclusion from the World championship.
Miami race agreement in principle
Formula One and the Hard Rock Stadium, home of the Miami Dolphins, have reached an agreement in principle to host a grand prix. F1 and Miami came to a 10-year agreement to host a race around the Biscayne Bar and Bayfront Park area, originally slated to start in 2019. However, this plan was knocked down by local opposition, forcing the indefinite delay of the race. Since then a new plan has formed around the Dolphins stadium. The consortium pushing for the event is led by Dolphins owner Stephen Ross. If they can get agreement from the city of Miami local government they want the first race to be held in 2021.
Toro Rosso name change agreed
Toro Rosso are set to change their name for the 2020 season after all the teams have approved the new name. The junior Red Bull team will no longer use the Italian pronunciation of the energy drink andd will instead be called Scuderia Alpha Tauri. Alpha Tauri is the clothing brand that Red Bull Racing use and Helmut Marko announced during the race weekend in Russia that the name should be on the Toro Rosso from 2020. This has now been confirmed after the FIA and FOM have given their approval. The other teams on the grid also had to agree before the change could be implemented.
McLaren asking why their car has become invisible
McLaren is having "several talks" with Formula 1 about how the team's cars have been covered in live television broadcasts of the grands prix in 2019. After the works Honda debacle, the British team has now rebuilt its competitiveness with what is clearly the fourth fastest car on the grid. But after the Spa race, Carlos Sainz complained that his car was on the television for just 15 seconds of the race.
"I cannot get into it, but I know that the team and the sponsors are not happy with the situation," he said. Sainz's father, the rally legend Carlos Sainz, said after Suzuka that his son still "seems to be invisible". McLaren's sponsorship manager Daniel McEwan has admitted he is concerned. "We are working on it," he told El Mundo Deportivo newspaper. "We are having several talks with Formula 1 about it. It is important for our drivers and our partners. We constantly work with Formula 1 to try to adjust and improve our visibility in the media."
It's been revealed that Renault are said to have used an illegal braking system, not only in Japan last weekend but also in previous races. This could cause problems in terms of championship points among other things. If the team are found guilty by the FIA then it causes a major threat against the image of the team. Renault are adjudged to have been using a banned built-in automatic brake balance adjustment.
The parts are currently being examined and a decision could be made as early as this week. "We will defend ourselves by all means against the allegations, " Cyril Abiteboul said. The team could be forced to pay a heavy fine and risk losing all World Cup points, and potential exclusion from the World championship.
Miami race agreement in principle
Formula One and the Hard Rock Stadium, home of the Miami Dolphins, have reached an agreement in principle to host a grand prix. F1 and Miami came to a 10-year agreement to host a race around the Biscayne Bar and Bayfront Park area, originally slated to start in 2019. However, this plan was knocked down by local opposition, forcing the indefinite delay of the race. Since then a new plan has formed around the Dolphins stadium. The consortium pushing for the event is led by Dolphins owner Stephen Ross. If they can get agreement from the city of Miami local government they want the first race to be held in 2021.
Toro Rosso name change agreed
Toro Rosso are set to change their name for the 2020 season after all the teams have approved the new name. The junior Red Bull team will no longer use the Italian pronunciation of the energy drink andd will instead be called Scuderia Alpha Tauri. Alpha Tauri is the clothing brand that Red Bull Racing use and Helmut Marko announced during the race weekend in Russia that the name should be on the Toro Rosso from 2020. This has now been confirmed after the FIA and FOM have given their approval. The other teams on the grid also had to agree before the change could be implemented.
McLaren asking why their car has become invisible
McLaren is having "several talks" with Formula 1 about how the team's cars have been covered in live television broadcasts of the grands prix in 2019. After the works Honda debacle, the British team has now rebuilt its competitiveness with what is clearly the fourth fastest car on the grid. But after the Spa race, Carlos Sainz complained that his car was on the television for just 15 seconds of the race.
"I cannot get into it, but I know that the team and the sponsors are not happy with the situation," he said. Sainz's father, the rally legend Carlos Sainz, said after Suzuka that his son still "seems to be invisible". McLaren's sponsorship manager Daniel McEwan has admitted he is concerned. "We are working on it," he told El Mundo Deportivo newspaper. "We are having several talks with Formula 1 about it. It is important for our drivers and our partners. We constantly work with Formula 1 to try to adjust and improve our visibility in the media."
Limejuice
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Woohoo! A new Miami tourism video!
Let's hope those nasty, noisy cars don't spoil the show.
Maybe they could just pick the winner online and concentrate on celebs and palm trees. I know that's why the new breed of F1 fans watch the show. Plus fashion tips from Lewis.
Let's hope those nasty, noisy cars don't spoil the show.
Maybe they could just pick the winner online and concentrate on celebs and palm trees. I know that's why the new breed of F1 fans watch the show. Plus fashion tips from Lewis.
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What were they thinking?
Before you read on, have a good look at the picture below and see if you can spot what basic schoolboy error Liberty Media have made. While the image isn't very clear the mistake is very clear and I'm sure all Brazilian Senna fans will notice.
This is an official Liberty Media promotional poster for the festival ahead of the Brazilian Grand Prix to commemorate the life an career of Ayrton Senna
If this is Senna's car then someone has changed the livery and should have changed it back for the photograph. Senna raced for Lotus for 3 years and always carried the number 12 not 11 when racing for Lotus.
FIA under pressure over Ferrari ICE
A number of teams are asking for clarification from the FIA as to whether they are clear to pursue similar concepts they believe are being used by Ferrari themselves or if the Ferrari idea fall foul of the regulations. What these teams want to do is use the intercooler to introduce a small amount of oil to enter the combustion process, thereby giving their car a welcome power boost.
As we all know Ferrari didn't win a race before the summer break, we also know that some teams earlier in the season were allowing a small amount of oil to enter the combustion chamber to increase power. This was outlawed by the FIA but have Ferrari found a legal way to bypass this ban? Clearly Ferrari found something over the summer break, but was it something new or a way around the current rules?
Prior to the rule change the FIA limitted oil consumption of any power unit to 1.2 liters per 100 km (0.06 liters a lap). But when they realised what the teams were upto earlier this season, they halved that amount. But if Ferrari have found a way to reduce the oil loss under racing conditions could they be using the excess to boost their power. I think the FIA are now going to have to look at what Ferrari are doing, as they will have to tell the other teams who have asked if they can also "pursue similar concepts" (this is assuming that the other teams have fully understood what Ferrari are doing). The other teams have been clever here, while not protesting the Ferrari car and asking to use what they believe is the Ferrari concept, the FIA rather than just looking to see if a rule has been broken they will have to address if other teams can use this system, thus confirming if Ferrari are in fact burning oil.
Before you read on, have a good look at the picture below and see if you can spot what basic schoolboy error Liberty Media have made. While the image isn't very clear the mistake is very clear and I'm sure all Brazilian Senna fans will notice.
This is an official Liberty Media promotional poster for the festival ahead of the Brazilian Grand Prix to commemorate the life an career of Ayrton Senna
If this is Senna's car then someone has changed the livery and should have changed it back for the photograph. Senna raced for Lotus for 3 years and always carried the number 12 not 11 when racing for Lotus.
FIA under pressure over Ferrari ICE
A number of teams are asking for clarification from the FIA as to whether they are clear to pursue similar concepts they believe are being used by Ferrari themselves or if the Ferrari idea fall foul of the regulations. What these teams want to do is use the intercooler to introduce a small amount of oil to enter the combustion process, thereby giving their car a welcome power boost.
As we all know Ferrari didn't win a race before the summer break, we also know that some teams earlier in the season were allowing a small amount of oil to enter the combustion chamber to increase power. This was outlawed by the FIA but have Ferrari found a legal way to bypass this ban? Clearly Ferrari found something over the summer break, but was it something new or a way around the current rules?
Prior to the rule change the FIA limitted oil consumption of any power unit to 1.2 liters per 100 km (0.06 liters a lap). But when they realised what the teams were upto earlier this season, they halved that amount. But if Ferrari have found a way to reduce the oil loss under racing conditions could they be using the excess to boost their power. I think the FIA are now going to have to look at what Ferrari are doing, as they will have to tell the other teams who have asked if they can also "pursue similar concepts" (this is assuming that the other teams have fully understood what Ferrari are doing). The other teams have been clever here, while not protesting the Ferrari car and asking to use what they believe is the Ferrari concept, the FIA rather than just looking to see if a rule has been broken they will have to address if other teams can use this system, thus confirming if Ferrari are in fact burning oil.
Limejuice
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Hard on the heels of the pre-dawn cross-country run that is the Japan GP, we have a characteristically relaxed Mexico GP.
UK times:
Fri 25 Oct
FP1 - 16:00
FP2 - 20:00
Sat 26 Oct
FP3 - 16:00
Qual - 19:00
Sun 27 Oct
Race - 19:10
Anderle! Anderle!
Note: UK clocks go back at 02:00 on Sunday, 27 Oct. Finally, the clock in my car will show the correct time. Huzzah!
UK times:
Fri 25 Oct
FP1 - 16:00
FP2 - 20:00
Sat 26 Oct
FP3 - 16:00
Qual - 19:00
Sun 27 Oct
Race - 19:10
Anderle! Anderle!
Note: UK clocks go back at 02:00 on Sunday, 27 Oct. Finally, the clock in my car will show the correct time. Huzzah!
1%er
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You still change the clocks in the UK how very quaint
I believe they may have stopped that here but to be honest I don't really know. Where I live we don't change the clocks but other parts of they country do or did, what happened here was that if the clocks went forward in other parts of the country shops, schools, banks and businesses just used to open or started an hour later and stay open an hour longer for those months, I never really noticed. I'm sure I read that the federal government were going to stop all this clock stuff, but we don't really take a lot of notice of what the federal government do in these parts, so I really have no idea, I guess I could look it up but there is no point as it makes no difference I'll have to watch my step over the weekend or I may be an hour late for the build up. Post-it note is the answer
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
I have not a clue what Twitch is, but I guess I should check it out as I’m fortunately in one of the countries mentioned in this article.
F1 to stream Mexican GP weekend live to six countries via Twitch · RaceFans
I’m assuming this means I get to watch the race on twitch for free, but the arrival doesn’t actually spell this out. If that is the case, I wonder why F1 are giving their content away for free.
F1 to stream Mexican GP weekend live to six countries via Twitch · RaceFans
I’m assuming this means I get to watch the race on twitch for free, but the arrival doesn’t actually spell this out. If that is the case, I wonder why F1 are giving their content away for free.
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Ferrari are cheats and the FIA know it
That is the claim being made by more than one team according to press reports. As I mentioned above, some teams wrote to the FIA asking if they could "pursue similar concepts" to that currently used by Ferrari. As of today the FIA have not responded to that inquiry and that had caused people to speak to the press.
According to a number of reports, "Several" Ferrari rivals have asked the FIA to look into the legality of the Italian team's engines. After the latest Ferrari upgrade, Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff said the power produced by the Maranello-made power unit is "ridiculous" and "Impossible to accomplish legally"
"Several teams have called on the FIA to verify that the power unit is legal". (I have to say I'm not sure the quote attributed to Toto is a quote from him, I find it hard to believe that Toto would say publicly "Impossible to accomplish legally", I'm sure he would find a better way of expressing his doubt).
An unnamed Ferrari rival is quoted as saying: "The absurd advantage is impossible to accomplish legally, because the technology is already very well developed. Ferrari cheats and the FIA knows it. But it doesn't matter, because it would be a huge scandal".
Judge to rule on Zandvoort next week
Dutch GP organisers are still battling to prepare Zandvoort for next year’s sellout race. Even before the 2020 deal with Formula 1 was struck, opposition groups were vowing to take legal measures to prevent or delay the event. Construction is already underway to upgrade Zandvoort, but environmental groups have banded together to call a stop to those works until permits are granted.
Local authorities acknowledge that permits are not yet granted, but the installation of dune screens to control the movement of frogs is already taking place. “Circuit Park Zandvoort is ignoring regulations and procedures,” the environmental groups wrote in a letter to authorities.
According to Dutch business broadcaster RTL Z, a judge will rule on October 27 whether construction needs to be temporarily halted at the circuit. The most serious works are scheduled to begin in November.
How can Lewis secure the world title in Mexico
Formula 1.com have helped us with this chart
That is the claim being made by more than one team according to press reports. As I mentioned above, some teams wrote to the FIA asking if they could "pursue similar concepts" to that currently used by Ferrari. As of today the FIA have not responded to that inquiry and that had caused people to speak to the press.
According to a number of reports, "Several" Ferrari rivals have asked the FIA to look into the legality of the Italian team's engines. After the latest Ferrari upgrade, Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff said the power produced by the Maranello-made power unit is "ridiculous" and "Impossible to accomplish legally"
"Several teams have called on the FIA to verify that the power unit is legal". (I have to say I'm not sure the quote attributed to Toto is a quote from him, I find it hard to believe that Toto would say publicly "Impossible to accomplish legally", I'm sure he would find a better way of expressing his doubt). An unnamed Ferrari rival is quoted as saying: "The absurd advantage is impossible to accomplish legally, because the technology is already very well developed. Ferrari cheats and the FIA knows it. But it doesn't matter, because it would be a huge scandal".
Judge to rule on Zandvoort next week
Dutch GP organisers are still battling to prepare Zandvoort for next year’s sellout race. Even before the 2020 deal with Formula 1 was struck, opposition groups were vowing to take legal measures to prevent or delay the event. Construction is already underway to upgrade Zandvoort, but environmental groups have banded together to call a stop to those works until permits are granted.
Local authorities acknowledge that permits are not yet granted, but the installation of dune screens to control the movement of frogs is already taking place. “Circuit Park Zandvoort is ignoring regulations and procedures,” the environmental groups wrote in a letter to authorities.
According to Dutch business broadcaster RTL Z, a judge will rule on October 27 whether construction needs to be temporarily halted at the circuit. The most serious works are scheduled to begin in November.
How can Lewis secure the world title in Mexico
Formula 1.com have helped us with this chart
1%er
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Twitch is sometimes a few of the links on the page I post up for people who don't have sky (www.totalsportek.com) Never used it but as it is listed I'm sure it works, give it a try and let us know if it is any good
Limejuice
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You still change the clocks in the UK how very quaint
The original purpose of changing clocks was to profit from the lighter mornings. The original idea in 1784 was from Thomas Jefferson, another interfering American who went abroad - Paris in this case - and tried to mess with European kip.
But it only caught on in the UK after a builder called William Willet published a leaflet - the so-called influencer blog of its day - in 1907 called The Waste of Daylight. He wrapped it all up in some economic fiddle-faddle, but the truth was he liked to play golf and got pissed off when his round was cut short by that totally unforeseeable calamity called sunset.
It was discussed in parliament in 1908, but true to the ineptitude and self-interest in politicians everywhere, MPs ignored the idea. It wasn't until 1916 that it was adopted in law. But, before the British could bring it into the war effort (as British Double Summer Time!), the Germans stole the idea and introduced it in order to murder more innocent and fine-limbed British Tommies.
Now clocks still go forward an hour on the last Sunday of March and return to normal on the last Sunday of October. It was intended to save energy, and in fact it doesn't do anything of the sort. Statistically it is no safer for pedestrians. Earlier this year, the European Transport Committee, that brains-trust of planet-sized intellects, decided to end the annual pendulum as a complete waste of, ahem, time. Naturally, the European parliament has not discussed the matter, so people are speculating that it might end as early as 2021.
Whether that affects these sceptred isles is a hot topic in Westminster these days, since the entire purpose behind Brexit is to Keep Summer Time British and not not have any of that European omni-time telling our schools and libraries and Gentlemen's Clubs when they can and can't open.
I can't imagine any reason why places close to the equator would be daft enough to vex their citizens with clock-swapping twice a year. It scarcely makes sense in high latitudes where sunrise can shift from 02.00 to 08.00 GMT. After all, we have seasons, and one of the manifold joys of that happy arrangement is a 20-hour day when the weather is warmest and drinking outdoors is its most convivial.
Also, the clock in my car is hard to adjust, so it would be handy for me to cancel the whole pantomime. I therefore commend its abolition to the House.
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1%er
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I'm sure it will turn out to be that Ferrari have found a way to introduce oil into the fuel mixture to aid combustion and power, as has been mentioned above, if that is legal or not is going to have to be decided by the FIA, but for sure the teams are not going to drop it.It would cause a small meltdown if ferrari were busted
The performance improvement came from 'nowhere' that is for certain.
Rain in Mexico
The weather forecast gives 60% chance of rain on Friday, and 80% on both Saturday and Sunday. A weekend full of slipping and sliding looks to be on the cards, the forecast also says it will already be raining on Thursday night, meaning the track will already be wet by the time FP1 rolls around on Friday morning. At 21 degrees Celsius the track won't be drying up very quickly either, so we could be in for a very fun weekend full of spins and swerves in Mexico! Not the best track for downforce with the air so thin, so it could be an interesting weekend.
Petrobras out and Lukoil in at McLaren
According to reports McLaren will not be to bothered by the loss of Petrobras. According to Brazilian government papers, Petrobras have pulled the plug just two years into a five-year deal worth an estimated £163m. The deal was labelled “unjustifiable”, with Brazil’s Minister of Citizenship, Osmar Terr, also taking to social media earlier in the year to publicly criticise the deal.
But, according to reports in the Russian press from Championat, another oil company in the form of Lukoil have been earmarked as a new major sponsor for McLaren. Championat claim talks between the two parties have already taken place over the course of the Russian Grand Prix weekend but no further information or announcements have yet to be publicised.
1%er
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Thanks for the history lesson I can now tell people why the UK change their clocks
Brazil is massive and while the sun rises where I live all year round at 5.30am and sets and 5.30pm, down south it is very different they have seasons down there (hard luck on them I guess), it even gets cold down there don't you know
If we go to Sao Paulo i sometimes even have to wear a coat, borrowed of course as I don't own such an article of clothing, I believe I have a jacket somewhere but can't think of the last time it saw the light of day. Shorts and t-shirts are formal wear in these parts 
1%er
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Breaking news
I just got a message reporting that Renault have been disqualified from the Japanese Grand Prix. Racing Point protested, claiming Renault were using a "per-set lap distance-dependent brake bias system". Their protest has been upheld and both Renault drivers have lost the points they scored, Danny Ric finished 6th and the Hulk finished 10th.
In the real world what this means is that McLaren will beat Renault in the constructors champion I believe, which I think will lead to changes at the top of the Renault F1 team for next season.
I just got a message reporting that Renault have been disqualified from the Japanese Grand Prix. Racing Point protested, claiming Renault were using a "per-set lap distance-dependent brake bias system". Their protest has been upheld and both Renault drivers have lost the points they scored, Danny Ric finished 6th and the Hulk finished 10th.
In the real world what this means is that McLaren will beat Renault in the constructors champion I believe, which I think will lead to changes at the top of the Renault F1 team for next season.
1%er
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Renault disqualified more information
Sorry about the lack of info in the Renault story above but I was not at home when I got the message so had to post from my phone which I find difficult.
It appears that Racing Point employed an engineer over the summer break who used to work for Renault on Hulkenberg's car. He told the management of racing point and they then protested Renault to the FIA after the Japan race. Renault are claiming that the system is entirely legal under the FIA Technical Regulations, but it was judged by the stewards that the system was in breach of the FIA Sporting Regulations regarding driver aid.
It is impossible that the drivers were not aware of this braking system being on their cars as they would not have been changing the braking bias during the race, which is common for drivers to do in different parts of the track. Renault have been given until 10am today (Mexico time) to decide if they will appeal this decision by the FIA, as of now there has been no news of an appeal (but while I am typing this I think it is just gone 8am in Mexico).
Mercedes want Lewis to sign new contract now
Reports in the press are claiming that Mercedes have made Lewis Hamilton a "massive offer" to remain with the team past 2020. Lewis has a contract with the team until the end of next season, but when we look at the driver contracts over all, many drivers will be out of contract at the end of the season so a number of top drives will be available.
Speaking to the press Toto said this "As long as we are able to provide the winning car, Lewis has no reason to consider other teams and we have no reason to look elsewhere. The relationship we've built is a very strong factor in keeping the team together and a real asset of the Mercedes Formula 1 team. What we have said to Lewis is that we would like to finish the season on a high, breathe a moment and then discuss what happens in 2021. Loyalty and integrity is something that binds us together and the most important discussions about 2021 will be with Lewis and Valtteri. Ferrari will also look at the options they have. They have a good line-up now that causes hiccups sometimes, so they will be thinking, 'What do we want for 2021?' We're having the same thoughts, what do we think is the perfect line-up for 2021?"
Wolff has previously conceded that he would understand if Hamilton wanted to sample life at Ferrari before bringing the curtain down on his F1 career, although the Briton has always professed his commitment to Mercedes, who first signed him to a development deal at the age of 13.
Miami citizens don't want an F1 race
Formula 1 is already striking trouble as it tries to set up a grand prix in Miami. An earlier attempt to establish a race in downtown Miami failed, but a new agreement in principle has now been reached between Liberty Media and Hard Rock Stadium.
At a meeting of the Miami Gardens City Council on Wednesday, a lawyer representing the stadium promoted the idea of an F1 race before a resident exclaimed: “We don’t want it!” According to the Florida newspaper Bradenton Herald, a resolution opposing the race was passed unanimously on the basis of noise and pollution.
“There comes a time when you have to take a stand when you feel that something is not right,” confirmed county commissioner Barbara Jordan. Even Formula 1 acknowledges the obstacles still standing in the way of a Miami race. On the event’s official website, Formula 1 declared “Unfortunately, a neighbourhood group is trying to block the Miami grand prix. If you want to see Formula 1 racing at Hard Rock Stadium, tell your Miami-Dade County Commissioners what F1 means to you by clicking the appropriate button below,” the statement posted at f1miamigp.com said.
F1 on Twitch
But don’t get too excited until you see whether you qualify, as those countries are Germany, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway and Sweden. MrCurry It will be free and on a number of Twitch channels, It will be on "gaming and internet influencers" channels. I think you'll just need to search for Formula 1 Mexico and you'll get a list of channels showing the race.
Sorry about the lack of info in the Renault story above but I was not at home when I got the message so had to post from my phone which I find difficult.
It appears that Racing Point employed an engineer over the summer break who used to work for Renault on Hulkenberg's car. He told the management of racing point and they then protested Renault to the FIA after the Japan race. Renault are claiming that the system is entirely legal under the FIA Technical Regulations, but it was judged by the stewards that the system was in breach of the FIA Sporting Regulations regarding driver aid.
It is impossible that the drivers were not aware of this braking system being on their cars as they would not have been changing the braking bias during the race, which is common for drivers to do in different parts of the track. Renault have been given until 10am today (Mexico time) to decide if they will appeal this decision by the FIA, as of now there has been no news of an appeal (but while I am typing this I think it is just gone 8am in Mexico).
Mercedes want Lewis to sign new contract now
Reports in the press are claiming that Mercedes have made Lewis Hamilton a "massive offer" to remain with the team past 2020. Lewis has a contract with the team until the end of next season, but when we look at the driver contracts over all, many drivers will be out of contract at the end of the season so a number of top drives will be available.
Speaking to the press Toto said this "As long as we are able to provide the winning car, Lewis has no reason to consider other teams and we have no reason to look elsewhere. The relationship we've built is a very strong factor in keeping the team together and a real asset of the Mercedes Formula 1 team. What we have said to Lewis is that we would like to finish the season on a high, breathe a moment and then discuss what happens in 2021. Loyalty and integrity is something that binds us together and the most important discussions about 2021 will be with Lewis and Valtteri. Ferrari will also look at the options they have. They have a good line-up now that causes hiccups sometimes, so they will be thinking, 'What do we want for 2021?' We're having the same thoughts, what do we think is the perfect line-up for 2021?"
Wolff has previously conceded that he would understand if Hamilton wanted to sample life at Ferrari before bringing the curtain down on his F1 career, although the Briton has always professed his commitment to Mercedes, who first signed him to a development deal at the age of 13.
Miami citizens don't want an F1 race
Formula 1 is already striking trouble as it tries to set up a grand prix in Miami. An earlier attempt to establish a race in downtown Miami failed, but a new agreement in principle has now been reached between Liberty Media and Hard Rock Stadium.
At a meeting of the Miami Gardens City Council on Wednesday, a lawyer representing the stadium promoted the idea of an F1 race before a resident exclaimed: “We don’t want it!” According to the Florida newspaper Bradenton Herald, a resolution opposing the race was passed unanimously on the basis of noise and pollution.
“There comes a time when you have to take a stand when you feel that something is not right,” confirmed county commissioner Barbara Jordan. Even Formula 1 acknowledges the obstacles still standing in the way of a Miami race. On the event’s official website, Formula 1 declared “Unfortunately, a neighbourhood group is trying to block the Miami grand prix. If you want to see Formula 1 racing at Hard Rock Stadium, tell your Miami-Dade County Commissioners what F1 means to you by clicking the appropriate button below,” the statement posted at f1miamigp.com said.
F1 on Twitch
But don’t get too excited until you see whether you qualify, as those countries are Germany, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway and Sweden. MrCurry It will be free and on a number of Twitch channels, It will be on "gaming and internet influencers" channels. I think you'll just need to search for Formula 1 Mexico and you'll get a list of channels showing the race.
1%er
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Whoooooooooooops forgot to press "post reply" for this earlier it seems
No Peter Bonnington for Lewis
Lewis Hamilton will be without his regular Mercedes Formula 1 race engineer Peter Bonnington for the Mexican and United States Grands Prix. Bonnington is not present in Mexico City as he has stayed at home in the United Kingdom to undergo a personal medical procedure. He will miss next weekend's United States GP as well, but Mercedes hopes can return for the Brazilian Grand Prix in mid-November.
In Bonnington's absence, his role will be taken over by Hamilton's regular performance engineer Marcus Dudley. Dom Riefstahl, who usually heads up Mercedes' race support team at the factory, is present in Mexico as Hamilton's performance engineer. Bonnington has engineered Hamilton to all four of his F1 titles with Mercedes as the two have worked together since Hamilton joined the team in 2013.
Juan Manuel Correa on the mend
Juan Manuel Correa was involved in the fatal crash that took the life of Anthoine Hubert in the Formula 2 race at the Belgian Grand Prix in August. Correa has been in intensive care since the collision but he has now walked for the first time since the accident. Watch this incredible footage of the F2 driver stepping on his own feet for the first time since the Spa-Francorchamps incident.
No Peter Bonnington for Lewis
Lewis Hamilton will be without his regular Mercedes Formula 1 race engineer Peter Bonnington for the Mexican and United States Grands Prix. Bonnington is not present in Mexico City as he has stayed at home in the United Kingdom to undergo a personal medical procedure. He will miss next weekend's United States GP as well, but Mercedes hopes can return for the Brazilian Grand Prix in mid-November.
In Bonnington's absence, his role will be taken over by Hamilton's regular performance engineer Marcus Dudley. Dom Riefstahl, who usually heads up Mercedes' race support team at the factory, is present in Mexico as Hamilton's performance engineer. Bonnington has engineered Hamilton to all four of his F1 titles with Mercedes as the two have worked together since Hamilton joined the team in 2013.
Juan Manuel Correa on the mend
Juan Manuel Correa was involved in the fatal crash that took the life of Anthoine Hubert in the Formula 2 race at the Belgian Grand Prix in August. Correa has been in intensive care since the collision but he has now walked for the first time since the accident. Watch this incredible footage of the F2 driver stepping on his own feet for the first time since the Spa-Francorchamps incident.
1%er
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The track looks dry but a little damp at the edge in some places, Stroll into the barrier looks like a good crowd for FP1. Stroll could have done his gearbox, he wasn't going fast but rear wheel hit first
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Stroll back out so just rear wing and wishbone change
looks like a good crowd for FP1. Stroll could have done his gearbox, he wasn't going fast but rear wheel hit firstMrCurry its live here Sky Sports F1 Live Stream | Sky Sports F1 Live Streaming - CricHD
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Stroll back out so just rear wing and wishbone change
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
All I can think of when I look at Mexico is the glorious final corner that’s no longer there 
Scene of F1’s greatest ever overtake...
Scene of F1’s greatest ever overtake...
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Yeah, he really is one of the all time greats, deserved at least 2 more.
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Cyril Abiteboul says Renault could quit F1
An even darker cloud has moved above Renault’s future in Formula 1. Already weighed down by a difficult 2019 season, the Carlos Ghosn corruption scandal, and now the brake balance system cheating saga, it has now emerged that Renault could quit the sport. “It’s been the most difficult season I have experienced personally,” team boss Cyril Abiteboul admitted in Mexico.
As the fallout of the Ghosn scandal continues, Renault’s car-making parent has a new interim CEO Clotilde Delbos. When asked about potentially pulling Renault out of Formula 1, she told analysts in a call on Friday that “everything will be on the table”. “Apparently Clotilde Delbos is on an austerity course and is not so keen on Formula 1,” former F1 driver Nick Heidfeld told Sky Germany. "All the negative press, lack of success and the high costs could be all the ammunition she needs to pull the plug.”
F1 boss Abiteboul also acknowledged the growing pressure, especially with the 2021 rules still up in the air and Mercedes and Honda reportedly also considering the future. “Formula 1 should create a positive image for the brand. We do not want to invest as much money as we do now and get a negative outcome,” he said. “We have time to reflect until the 2021 rules are clear. It is obvious that we will analyse not only our results, but also our potential to achieve better results in the future and the current situation in the industry. We have a long-term project, but one of the stages of that is finding out the regulations for 2021. Then we will need to confirm our participation in the seasons 2021-2025. The new leadership will think about whether this really suits us,” the Frenchman added.
Renault braking system used when the team was Lotus
The Renault Formula 1 braking system deemed illegal by the FIA was in use as early as the 2015 Belgian Grand Prix when the team was Lotus, claims Romain Grosjean. Renault was disqualified from the Japanese Grand Prix for using the system, a pre-set brake balance adjustment, which it admitted was a driver aid. Team boss Cyril Abiteboul revealed the device had been used "for a while" but would not confirm how long, beyond admitting it was in operation before 2019.
Grosjean drove for Lotus in 2015 the final season before it became Renault again, alongside Pastor Maldonado, but moved to Haas the following year. Asked if he had mentioned on Thursday at the Mexican Grand Prix that he drove with the system since the Spa round in 2015, in which he scored a podium, Grosjean said: "I may have. Yes". Grosjean was then asked whether he considered the device to be legal, and responded: "Well let's say that I asked to replicate it later on and they wouldn't do it. It was good though."
Racing Point challenged the braking system after the Japanese GP, and said it had done so because the FIA confirmed it was not allowed to replicate the system. Abiteboul said Renault had not sought approval from the FIA for the design because it was convinced it was legal given how long it had been on the car. He also stressed it was not a performance-enhancing driver aid, simply a way to reduce the driver's workload.
However, Racing Point driver Lance Stroll thought there will have been a benefit. "They [the FIA] clearly gave them a penalty because it was an advantage, however, I don't know the ins and outs of it, or how much they were doing it, or how much lap time it was, how much pace they were finding because of it. But I definitely know that they gave them a penalty for a reason. There is definitely a lot of workload for the driver, changing brake balance throughout a grand prix, and if you can avoid that, it's definitely helpful" he said.
Tyre degradation in Mexico
I don't know how many of you watched FP1 and FP2, but the tyre degradation was massive. If I had to judge how many stops the teams would have to make based on just the 2 FP sessions I'd bet on 3 or maybe even 4, but that clearly isn't likely to happen. The super-soft seemed to last only 3 to 6 laps before they were undermined by degradation and graining. It is really hard to see anyone of the top 8 managing only a 1 stop race, there was little running on the hard tyre but with downforce being set so high by the teams because of the low air density, I can see at least a 2 stop race.
I think the team will have to work really hard in FP3 to get the cars set-up for Qualifying and the race as tyre ware is going to be key for strategy, the way things looked yesterday I can't see Lewis winning the drivers championship here in Mexico unless he gets really lucky with safety cars and it rains.
An even darker cloud has moved above Renault’s future in Formula 1. Already weighed down by a difficult 2019 season, the Carlos Ghosn corruption scandal, and now the brake balance system cheating saga, it has now emerged that Renault could quit the sport. “It’s been the most difficult season I have experienced personally,” team boss Cyril Abiteboul admitted in Mexico.
As the fallout of the Ghosn scandal continues, Renault’s car-making parent has a new interim CEO Clotilde Delbos. When asked about potentially pulling Renault out of Formula 1, she told analysts in a call on Friday that “everything will be on the table”. “Apparently Clotilde Delbos is on an austerity course and is not so keen on Formula 1,” former F1 driver Nick Heidfeld told Sky Germany. "All the negative press, lack of success and the high costs could be all the ammunition she needs to pull the plug.”
F1 boss Abiteboul also acknowledged the growing pressure, especially with the 2021 rules still up in the air and Mercedes and Honda reportedly also considering the future. “Formula 1 should create a positive image for the brand. We do not want to invest as much money as we do now and get a negative outcome,” he said. “We have time to reflect until the 2021 rules are clear. It is obvious that we will analyse not only our results, but also our potential to achieve better results in the future and the current situation in the industry. We have a long-term project, but one of the stages of that is finding out the regulations for 2021. Then we will need to confirm our participation in the seasons 2021-2025. The new leadership will think about whether this really suits us,” the Frenchman added.
Renault braking system used when the team was Lotus
The Renault Formula 1 braking system deemed illegal by the FIA was in use as early as the 2015 Belgian Grand Prix when the team was Lotus, claims Romain Grosjean. Renault was disqualified from the Japanese Grand Prix for using the system, a pre-set brake balance adjustment, which it admitted was a driver aid. Team boss Cyril Abiteboul revealed the device had been used "for a while" but would not confirm how long, beyond admitting it was in operation before 2019.
Grosjean drove for Lotus in 2015 the final season before it became Renault again, alongside Pastor Maldonado, but moved to Haas the following year. Asked if he had mentioned on Thursday at the Mexican Grand Prix that he drove with the system since the Spa round in 2015, in which he scored a podium, Grosjean said: "I may have. Yes". Grosjean was then asked whether he considered the device to be legal, and responded: "Well let's say that I asked to replicate it later on and they wouldn't do it. It was good though."
Racing Point challenged the braking system after the Japanese GP, and said it had done so because the FIA confirmed it was not allowed to replicate the system. Abiteboul said Renault had not sought approval from the FIA for the design because it was convinced it was legal given how long it had been on the car. He also stressed it was not a performance-enhancing driver aid, simply a way to reduce the driver's workload.
However, Racing Point driver Lance Stroll thought there will have been a benefit. "They [the FIA] clearly gave them a penalty because it was an advantage, however, I don't know the ins and outs of it, or how much they were doing it, or how much lap time it was, how much pace they were finding because of it. But I definitely know that they gave them a penalty for a reason. There is definitely a lot of workload for the driver, changing brake balance throughout a grand prix, and if you can avoid that, it's definitely helpful" he said.
Tyre degradation in Mexico
I don't know how many of you watched FP1 and FP2, but the tyre degradation was massive. If I had to judge how many stops the teams would have to make based on just the 2 FP sessions I'd bet on 3 or maybe even 4, but that clearly isn't likely to happen. The super-soft seemed to last only 3 to 6 laps before they were undermined by degradation and graining. It is really hard to see anyone of the top 8 managing only a 1 stop race, there was little running on the hard tyre but with downforce being set so high by the teams because of the low air density, I can see at least a 2 stop race.
I think the team will have to work really hard in FP3 to get the cars set-up for Qualifying and the race as tyre ware is going to be key for strategy, the way things looked yesterday I can't see Lewis winning the drivers championship here in Mexico unless he gets really lucky with safety cars and it rains.
