F1 2017
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1%er
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I guess it will go to LewisDriver of the day the Mercedes strategist
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Ok I'm sick of the sight of that kid now.
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1%er
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LOLOLOLOLO
Limejuice
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I'm sick of the sight of that ostrich now.That advert with the ostrich and the virtual reality is great
1%er
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Knowing the result I'm not sure, 90% of the coverage was the race between the top two with a little of Vettel Vs Bottas
weltweit
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Well I don't know the result yet, so I will avoid the news between now and then.
1%er
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Worth watching then I think
1%er
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Jos the Boss joins Red Bull
Max Verstappen's father Jos is taking on an official roll at Red Bull. His job seem to be wide ranging, not only will he scout for young talent but also help the expansion of the Red Bull junior team and act as a coach for drivers, he will also have some kind of oversight roll at the F1 team level. It isn't really very clear what is meant by "oversight roll with-in the team", but I suspect it means he will be able to offer advice in areas that his experience covers and sit in on some race debriefs.
The cynic in me wonders if this is a sop to try and add more value in staying at Red Bull for Max
Mercedes to help Honda rumors
For a couple of months now there have been reports in the press claiming that Mercedes have offered to help Honda sort-out their reliability and performance crisis. It has also been reported that AVL (Anstalt für Verbrennungskraftmaschinen List) the Austrian-based automotive consulting firm is also working with Honda. Other teams are now starting to complain and claim that Mercedes should not be allowed to help Honda at all. There are rules that competing teams can not cooperate with regards to the chassis but no rules regarding power-units. Both Red Bull and Mercedes customer Force India have now come out and said this should not be allowed. It could be interesting to watch this story as customer teams help to develop brought-in power-units and I'm sure would not be happy to see their work passed to other Engine suppliers.
Almost all race promoters attended Barcelona race
While there was no official meeting between the promoters and Liberty Media, it seems that many of them turned up to see if they could have a chat with the new owners. A number of rumors have started because so many were there, the first is that the Brazil GP is on its last legs and unless someone buys the Interlagos circuit the race will end when the current contract finishes in 2020. This could be a big blow to F1 as viewing figures show that Brazil accounts for 20% of all viewers to the sport. It is also reported here that TV Globo, a privately-owned free-to-air TV company has lost interest and no longer wants to be involved and will not bid for a new contract. It also seems that race promoter Tamas Rohonyi is selling up his business interests in Brazil and returning to Europe, so there is a triple whammy to overcome if the race is to remain on the calendar.
With just 1 driver, Felipe Massa representing Brazil (and not likely to remain for long) and the prospect of no race in the country is seems unlikely that any other TV company will be interested in picking up the contract, lucky for me the internet is available.
Some good news before more bad news, it seem that Singapore has agreed terms to go on for another contract, or at least is close to doing so
What about Germany and the UK? Well it seems that Hockenheim is only really interested in holding a race every other year, while at the same time the Nurburgring, which is actually the better venue, does not seem to want F1 at all. There are many race tracks in Germany but not up to F1 standards, so any circuit looking to replace Nurburgring would have to invest a lot of money, not only to upgrade the track and facilities but also to improve access and local infrastructure. Silverstone still has a dark cloud hanging over it (apologizes about the pun
). The BRDC is trying to decide whether to action the break clause in the existing contract as without government funding it can not afford to continue hosting the race, and as Jonathan Palmer runs most other British circuits it is unlikely he will hold the race at any of his tracks (without a substantial drop in the hosting fee), as he has said in the past "Formula One is a money pit for promoters and track owners". There is some wild speculation that a couple of Chinese billionaires are thinking of putting a track at the new Asian Business Port with-in the Royal Docks Enterprise Zone, but I'll believe that when they build it.
Max Verstappen's father Jos is taking on an official roll at Red Bull. His job seem to be wide ranging, not only will he scout for young talent but also help the expansion of the Red Bull junior team and act as a coach for drivers, he will also have some kind of oversight roll at the F1 team level. It isn't really very clear what is meant by "oversight roll with-in the team", but I suspect it means he will be able to offer advice in areas that his experience covers and sit in on some race debriefs.
The cynic in me wonders if this is a sop to try and add more value in staying at Red Bull for Max
Mercedes to help Honda rumors
For a couple of months now there have been reports in the press claiming that Mercedes have offered to help Honda sort-out their reliability and performance crisis. It has also been reported that AVL (Anstalt für Verbrennungskraftmaschinen List) the Austrian-based automotive consulting firm is also working with Honda. Other teams are now starting to complain and claim that Mercedes should not be allowed to help Honda at all. There are rules that competing teams can not cooperate with regards to the chassis but no rules regarding power-units. Both Red Bull and Mercedes customer Force India have now come out and said this should not be allowed. It could be interesting to watch this story as customer teams help to develop brought-in power-units and I'm sure would not be happy to see their work passed to other Engine suppliers.
Almost all race promoters attended Barcelona race
While there was no official meeting between the promoters and Liberty Media, it seems that many of them turned up to see if they could have a chat with the new owners. A number of rumors have started because so many were there, the first is that the Brazil GP is on its last legs and unless someone buys the Interlagos circuit the race will end when the current contract finishes in 2020. This could be a big blow to F1 as viewing figures show that Brazil accounts for 20% of all viewers to the sport. It is also reported here that TV Globo, a privately-owned free-to-air TV company has lost interest and no longer wants to be involved and will not bid for a new contract. It also seems that race promoter Tamas Rohonyi is selling up his business interests in Brazil and returning to Europe, so there is a triple whammy to overcome if the race is to remain on the calendar.
With just 1 driver, Felipe Massa representing Brazil (and not likely to remain for long) and the prospect of no race in the country is seems unlikely that any other TV company will be interested in picking up the contract, lucky for me the internet is available.
Some good news before more bad news, it seem that Singapore has agreed terms to go on for another contract, or at least is close to doing so
What about Germany and the UK? Well it seems that Hockenheim is only really interested in holding a race every other year, while at the same time the Nurburgring, which is actually the better venue, does not seem to want F1 at all. There are many race tracks in Germany but not up to F1 standards, so any circuit looking to replace Nurburgring would have to invest a lot of money, not only to upgrade the track and facilities but also to improve access and local infrastructure. Silverstone still has a dark cloud hanging over it (apologizes about the pun
). The BRDC is trying to decide whether to action the break clause in the existing contract as without government funding it can not afford to continue hosting the race, and as Jonathan Palmer runs most other British circuits it is unlikely he will hold the race at any of his tracks (without a substantial drop in the hosting fee), as he has said in the past "Formula One is a money pit for promoters and track owners". There is some wild speculation that a couple of Chinese billionaires are thinking of putting a track at the new Asian Business Port with-in the Royal Docks Enterprise Zone, but I'll believe that when they build it.
1%er
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Silverstone may not be as bad as it appears
While the British Racing Drivers Club (BRDC) have said they may have to instigate a break clause that would allow it to leave its contract with FOM in 2019 and will make its decision before this year’s race on 16 July, this doesn't mean an end to the GP at the circuit. The situation is this, the current contract that runs until 2026 has an escalator clause that raises the hosting fee by 10% a year and the BRDC say it is unable to make a profit now never mind about future years.
Liberty Media have made it clear that they will not renegotiate any existing contracts as they feel it would open the flood gates for other tracks to want a reduction in fee. The important words in Liberty media's statement are "existing contracts" so if Silverstone do activate the break clause, it means they can start new negotiations for a new contract that would start from 2020.
Liberty Media have said they want a race in the UK and will do what they can to ensure a race continues in the country, Sliverstone is the only option at this time as it is the only circuit in the UK with the classification to host F1.
While the British Racing Drivers Club (BRDC) have said they may have to instigate a break clause that would allow it to leave its contract with FOM in 2019 and will make its decision before this year’s race on 16 July, this doesn't mean an end to the GP at the circuit. The situation is this, the current contract that runs until 2026 has an escalator clause that raises the hosting fee by 10% a year and the BRDC say it is unable to make a profit now never mind about future years.
Liberty Media have made it clear that they will not renegotiate any existing contracts as they feel it would open the flood gates for other tracks to want a reduction in fee. The important words in Liberty media's statement are "existing contracts" so if Silverstone do activate the break clause, it means they can start new negotiations for a new contract that would start from 2020.
Liberty Media have said they want a race in the UK and will do what they can to ensure a race continues in the country, Sliverstone is the only option at this time as it is the only circuit in the UK with the classification to host F1.
Limejuice
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The promoter contracts do need a big re-think, in general.
You can't have a situation where it's not possible for promoters to make a profit. After all, risk should be rewarded. If F1 is to grow and be successful, the promoter component has to prosper too.
Bernie's done a super job rinsing all the money possible from events into FOM's U-bend. I'd hope Liberty could raise the revenue tide and let everyone float a bit higher.
After all, Liberty want some kind of spectacular Superbowl event every couple of weeks. (BTW good luck maintaining TV audience interest at that level of saturation. Audiences for American football are falling off a cliff.) That means the local promoters being willing and able to go to town. Unless Liberty wants to take over organising all the non-racing, fun stuff as well....
You can't have a situation where it's not possible for promoters to make a profit. After all, risk should be rewarded. If F1 is to grow and be successful, the promoter component has to prosper too.
Bernie's done a super job rinsing all the money possible from events into FOM's U-bend. I'd hope Liberty could raise the revenue tide and let everyone float a bit higher.
After all, Liberty want some kind of spectacular Superbowl event every couple of weeks. (BTW good luck maintaining TV audience interest at that level of saturation. Audiences for American football are falling off a cliff.) That means the local promoters being willing and able to go to town. Unless Liberty wants to take over organising all the non-racing, fun stuff as well....
Limejuice
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Well, I watched the Indy 500 qualifying. It was... disappointing.
The in-car shots showed the drivers' hands move only imperceptibly throughout an entire lap. Every car remained in the same gear throughout an entire lap. The corners were cambered so that they became non-corners. Every lap was a straight.
Then the American commentator began screaming: "OH MA GAAAD, HE ALMOST SLAMMED THE WALL AT OVER 200 MILES PER HOUR. MAN, HE CAME WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE WALL."
To tell you how big the driver's balls were, they showed the same footage in slow motion 17,943 times. Each time a SHRIEKING American commentator estimated how close to the wall the car got, and therefore how close to certain death the driver was. Each repetition shortened the odds on oblivion. The actual distance was about 18 to 20 inches. Call it 45 - 50 cm.
This morning I watched FP1 from Monaco. The cars turned corners. They changed direction. Several of them "kissed" the barriers. In particular, Vettel caressed the barrier on the exit from a corner causing the gentlest wisp of smoke and making the barrier rock a few centimetres back and forth.
"I hit the wall," Vettel radioed. "Nothing damaged."
"Copy that," said his engineer.
Crofty on Sky's commentary said: "Vettel's got his eye in early for the track. Now why do they call it 'the New Chicane' when it was installed in 1986?"
The in-car shots showed the drivers' hands move only imperceptibly throughout an entire lap. Every car remained in the same gear throughout an entire lap. The corners were cambered so that they became non-corners. Every lap was a straight.
Then the American commentator began screaming: "OH MA GAAAD, HE ALMOST SLAMMED THE WALL AT OVER 200 MILES PER HOUR. MAN, HE CAME WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE WALL."
To tell you how big the driver's balls were, they showed the same footage in slow motion 17,943 times. Each time a SHRIEKING American commentator estimated how close to the wall the car got, and therefore how close to certain death the driver was. Each repetition shortened the odds on oblivion. The actual distance was about 18 to 20 inches. Call it 45 - 50 cm.
This morning I watched FP1 from Monaco. The cars turned corners. They changed direction. Several of them "kissed" the barriers. In particular, Vettel caressed the barrier on the exit from a corner causing the gentlest wisp of smoke and making the barrier rock a few centimetres back and forth.
"I hit the wall," Vettel radioed. "Nothing damaged."
"Copy that," said his engineer.
Crofty on Sky's commentary said: "Vettel's got his eye in early for the track. Now why do they call it 'the New Chicane' when it was installed in 1986?"
1%er
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If you want a Friday fix of F1 here are a couple of links for you
Monaco grand prix team principals press conference (40 minutes)http://www.speedvid.net/k1ison9uoooc
Monaco grand prix paddock uncut with Ted (15 minutes)
Usual warning for people who don't use an ad-blocker, you will get a couple of pop-ups and you don't need to download anything
http://www.speedvid.net/k1ison9uoooc
Limejuice
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Jenson gets a 15-place grid penalty for needing his (Alonso's) eleventy-ninth power unit.
The boy himself is chipper about it, but it's a new depth for the McLaren - Honda relationship.
Alonso must be feeling good - he's effectively sub-contracted a last-place grid start.
The boy himself is chipper about it, but it's a new depth for the McLaren - Honda relationship.
Alonso must be feeling good - he's effectively sub-contracted a last-place grid start.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I don't think you quite get how hard running at Indy is or the sheer speed involved. The idea that they are "non corners" is laughable.Well, I watched the Indy 500 qualifying. It was... disappointing.
The in-car shots showed the drivers' hands move only imperceptibly throughout an entire lap. Every car remained in the same gear throughout an entire lap. The corners were cambered so that they became non-corners. Every lap was a straight.
Then the American commentator began screaming: "OH MA GAAAD, HE ALMOST SLAMMED THE WALL AT OVER 200 MILES PER HOUR. MAN, HE CAME WITHIN TWO FEET OF THE WALL."
To tell you how big the driver's balls were, they showed the same footage in slow motion 17,943 times. Each time a SHRIEKING American commentator estimated how close to the wall the car got, and therefore how close to certain death the driver was. Each repetition shortened the odds on oblivion. The actual distance was about 18 to 20 inches. Call it 45 - 50 cm.
This morning I watched FP1 from Monaco. The cars turned corners. They changed direction. Several of them "kissed" the barriers. In particular, Vettel caressed the barrier on the exit from a corner causing the gentlest wisp of smoke and making the barrier rock a few centimetres back and forth.
"I hit the wall," Vettel radioed. "Nothing damaged."
"Copy that," said his engineer.
Crofty on Sky's commentary said: "Vettel's got his eye in early for the track. Now why do they call it 'the New Chicane' when it was installed in 1986?"
1%er
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Good links here for anyone who needs one F1 qualifying Monaco
