"employer has claimed an exception under the Equality Act 2010"

[ItWillNeverWork]

Really? What the fuck is that about? Was appended to an advert on Universal Jobmatch.

 

[fishfinger]

It depends on what sort of job it is.

 

[stuff_it]

Really? What the fuck is that about? Was appended to an advert on Universal Jobmatch.

It means they are advertising a job where they are allowed to discriminate. It will more than likely be healthcare or social care.

Stuff that gets exempt includes "elderly, non-English speaking outreach" and emergency women's refuges.

 

[Athos]

Employers can be exempted from certain requirements of the act, in certain (narrowly defined) situations. Without knowing more detail, it's be impossible to tell you much else.

 

[fishfinger]

This is from wiki:

Certain employment is exempted from the act, including:
Priests, monks, nuns, rabbis and ministers of religion.
Actresses, actors and models in the film, television and fashion industries (they may need a British Chinese actress for a specific role, for instance).
Special employment training programmes aimed at ethnic minorities, ex-offenders, young adults, the long term unemployed, or people with physical or learning disabilities.
Employment where there are cultural sensitivities (such as a documentary where male victims of domestic violence need to be interviewed by a male researcher, or a gay men's domestic violence helpline).
Where safety or operational efficiency could be jeopardised.
Political parties who run all women or all-gay shortlists.
Local support staff who work in embassies and high commissions, by virtue of diplomatic immunity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_2010

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

It's bar staff at an Indian restaurant. I can understand exemptions for things such as rabbis or domestic violence counselors, but surely they can't do this at a bloomin restaurant that sells alcohol. Anyway, I've applied for the job, and when they reject my application I will demand a reason for this and will take it up with my MP. Fuck em, the cunts.

 

[fishfinger]

It's bar staff at an Indian restaurant. I can understand exemptions for things such as rabbis or domestic violence counselors, but surely they can't do this at a bloomin restaurant that sells alcohol. Anyway, I've applied for the job, and when they reject my application I will demand a reason for this and will take it up with my MP. Fuck em, the cunts.

That might be an age related exemption, as under 18s can't serve alcohol.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

That might be an age related exemption, as under 18s can't serve alcohol.

Surely they wouldn't have to actively request an exemption where something is a legal requirement?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

That might be an age related exemption, as under 18s can't serve alcohol.

We'll have to see I guess. Never seen that sort of statement at the end of a job for a bar person anywhere else. It should be pretty obvious that under 18's can't serve booze. Not the sort of thing that usually needs to be said.

 

[fishfinger]

Surely they wouldn't have to actively request an exemption where something is a legal requirement?

We'll have to see I guess. Never seen that sort of statement at the end of a job for a bar person anywhere else. It should be pretty obvious that under 18's can't serve booze. Not the sort of thing that usually needs to be said.

Don't know, it was just a guess.

 

[Manter]

We'll have to see I guess. Never seen that sort of statement at the end of a job for a bar person anywhere else. It should be pretty obvious that under 18's can't serve booze. Not the sort of thing that usually needs to be said.

Could be language. If the business operating language is not English?

Though I believe they'd have to list that under skills required or some such.... Dunno

cesare may know more

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Don't know, it was just a guess.

Fair enough. Either way it's gotten my blood boiling.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Could be language. If the business operating language is not English?

Though I believe they'd have to list that under skills required or some such.... Dunno

cesare may know more

Don't think so. It's a posh place aimed at middle class people in an area that is 98% white (all that 'fusion cuisine' bollocks). Went there for a birthday a year or two back and the food was really good. A shame if it turns out to be something dodgy as I'll have to be boycotting the place from now on.

 

[Manter]

Don't think so. It's a posh place aimed at middle class people in an area that is 98% white (all that 'fusion cuisine' bollocks). Went there for a birthday a year or two back and the food was really good. A shame if it turns out to be something dodgy as I'll have to be boycotting the place from now on.

Can still imagine chefs that take orders in a regional language or something?

I thought they had to say why they were claiming an exemption too.

 

[Onket]

Fair enough. Either way it's gotten my blood boiling.

Best of luck with the application, let us know what happens.

Try not to use 'gotten' though, to keep the blood temp down.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Can still imagine chefs that take orders in a regional language or something?

I thought they had to say why they were claiming an exemption too.

Maybe they will provide me more detail in a reply to my application. I'm hoping that it's something along the lines of them running a scheme for employing kids with a criminal record or something. Would be nice if that's the case. Not sure about the chef thing. The names of dishes can be learnt by any ethnicity, and a chef should really learn to communicate in English. Otherwise it kind of makes a mockery of the genuinely needed exemptions for jobs such as those mentioned above.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Best of luck with the application, let us know what happens.

Try not to use 'gotten' though, to keep the blood temp down.

Thanks . Sorry about the 'gotten'. It's the brummy in me escaping.

 

[Onket]

Thanks . Sorry about the 'gotten'. It's the brummy in me escaping.

If it's Brummie, that's acceptable.

I thought it was an Americanism.

 

[Gromit]

Can still imagine chefs that take orders in a regional language or something?

I thought they had to say why they were claiming an exemption too.

Ethnic restaurants get away with employing people of appropriate ethnic background purely because some twats think food isn't authentic if all the staff aren't from that ethnicity. This can affect sales and so was included as an exemption in the act.

It's stupid of the customers as Indian food in Britain, for example, is rarely authentic indian food but instead what the British taste has created as the Indian cuisine.

 

[RedDragon]

I've always thought it was just co-incidence that all the staff in my local Japanese restaurant were, well, Japanese.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Ethnic restaurants get away with employing people of appropriate ethnic background purely because some twats think food isn't authentic if all the staff aren't from that ethnicity. This can affect sales and so was included as an exemption in the act.

It's stupid of the customers as Indian food in Britain, for example, is rarely authentic indian food but instead what the British taste has created as the Indian cuisine.

It certainly can effect sales if this is the case. Mainly because I won't be going there again.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Ethnic restaurants get away with employing people of appropriate ethnic background purely because some twats think food isn't authentic if all the staff aren't from that ethnicity. This can affect sales and so was included as an exemption in the act.

It's stupid of the customers as Indian food in Britain, for example, is rarely authentic indian food but instead what the British taste has created as the Indian cuisine.

Also, I wonder what would be said if a fish and chip shop refused to employ black people in order to maintain an 'authentic' English experience. There would be outrage, and rightly so.

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

You wont get anywhere with complaining - as Gromit says they are allowed to do it.

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

Before the latest Act this was the list of reasons you could discriminate - now however its down to the employer to prove its reasonable.

1. Physiology or authenticity (for example, in choosing actors to play a role),
2. Privacy and decency of people the employee would be dealing with (for example, staff in a care home),
3. Private household's integrity (for example, professional carers for an individual, but not normally nannies),
4. Single-sex accommodation, when it is unreasonable to expect the employer to provide additional accommodation,
5. Single-sex establishments, for example special prisons and refuges,
6. Personal welfare and counselling, when sex is directly relevant to the welfare or counselling provided,
7. Jobs in foreign countries with specifically relevant laws or customs,
8. When a pair of jobs are advertised specifically for a married couple.
9. The job of stripper in a Strip-club.

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

So I don't think you could "reasonably" argue that you need white only staff for a fish and chip shop...

 

[sim667]

So I don't think you could "reasonably" argue that you need white only staff for a fish and chip shop...

All the chippies near me are run by strictly christian chinese people.

I've never understood that

 

[Hocus Eye.]

If it's Brummie, that's acceptable.

I thought it was an Americanism.

It's German and Old English, like lots of American usage. Go ahead and use it. I have forgotten the number of times I have seen that word.

 

[Gromit]

So I don't think you could "reasonably" argue that you need white only staff for a fish and chip shop...

 

[porno thieving gypsy]

 

[Onket]

It's German and Old English, like lots of American usage. Go ahead and use it. I forgotten the number of times I have seen that word.

I will never use it. Never.