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The English Defence League, defending the land of the Angles, Germanic people who invaded after the Romans had left. The idea of England didn't exist during the pre-Roman Celtic times. Also, so far as I am aware, the Celts didn't arrive until the Iron Age (or perhaps the Bronze Age?), while there have been people in the British Isles since the Mesolithic age, several thousand years earlier. Any thoughts on this Arthur?
 
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I see the 'Beaker People' were:

....stocky newcomers, although few at first, seem to have quickly gotten the upper hand on their Neolithic landlords, becoming a sort of nouveau aristocracy.
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http://www.britainexpress.com/History/Bronze_Age.htm

B.P, B.P, B.P, B.P.L

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I was in Manchester yesterday. I knew that the EDL would be complaining that the police have given them a hard time and to be fair the police we c*nts to them. They reminded me of a school yard fight with one of the fighters yelling hold me back when in reality he has little want for a fight.

What did the EDL really expect? Turning up on coaches with UAF Hunting Club t shirts (someone told me that, I can't confirm it) and looking like they'd just shop lifted the whole of Cheetham Hill for Stone Island clothes. Plus advertising it all over facebook? Of course the police are going to kettle you in pubs and then ship you out.

I'd say there were 100 EDL in Manchester yesterday. The vast majority were held in the Yates' on Portland Street and The Bank on Mosley Street. There was groups of up to a dozen young EDL kids, literally aged 11-14, looking like complete tits in clothes with Stone Island badges glued onto any surface big enough.

The police also didn't allow anyone in the Srebrenica vigil apart from MPAC (who ever they are) and the UAF. We were told to leave or we'd be arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, someone asked if they had a democratic right to peaceful protest and the reply was "not if I say you don't" and a pair of handcuffs. He was latter let out on Oxford Road and told to stay away from the city centre. The EDL failed to attack the SWP stall too due to around 20 Irish Republicans and anti fascists being in front of it, although some SWP members weren't happy due to it effecting their sales. From what I gathered from the sound SWP members, the UAF hadn't actually backed the vigil like the MPAC said (which was the EDL's justification to come to Manchester) so I don't know if the PCS ever actually did.
 
Red Storm said:
I was in Manchester yesterday. I knew that the EDL would be complaining that the police have given them a hard time and to be fair the police we c*nts to them. They reminded me of a school yard fight with one of the fighters yelling hold me back when in reality he has little want for a fight.

What did the EDL really expect? Turning up on coaches with UAF Hunting Club t shirts (someone told me that, I can't confirm it) and looking like they'd just shop lifted the whole of Cheetham Hill for Stone Island clothes. Plus advertising it all over facebook? Of course the police are going to kettle you in pubs and then ship you out.

I'd say there were 100 EDL in Manchester yesterday. The vast majority were held in the Yates' on Portland Street and The Bank on Mosley Street. There was groups of up to a dozen young EDL kids, literally aged 11-14, looking like complete tits in clothes with Stone Island badges glued onto any surface big enough.

The police also didn't allow anyone in the Srebrenica vigil apart from MPAC (who ever they are) and the UAF. We were told to leave or we'd be arrested to prevent a breach of the peace, someone asked if they had a democratic right to peaceful protest and the reply was "not if I say you don't" and a pair of handcuffs. He was latter let out on Oxford Road and told to stay away from the city centre. The EDL failed to attack the SWP stall too due to around 20 Irish Republicans and anti fascists being in front of it, although some SWP members weren't happy due to it effecting their sales. From what I gathered from the sound SWP members, the UAF hadn't actually backed the vigil like the MPAC said (which was the EDL's justification to come to Manchester) so I don't know if the PCS ever actually did.
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The EDL were confronted and engaged a number of times yesterday by the Gaughan Stagg Cumann of the 32csm and the Manchester AFA, starting at 12pm we made our presence felt. The Fash had numerous chances to start but did not avail.

The SWP made comment to us that they were glad when we arrived at their stall, so i question the validity of your post, they said that the couple of uniformed officers along with another few undercover officers mixing about didnt fill them with confidence with the number of fash walking through the city.
 
I should have said "some". The younger ones are all sound, they were pleased to see the 32csm. One of the older ones mistook the 32csm as EDL until a younger one corrected him. The one with the mega phone and another were whinging to each other about standing in front of the stall putting people off.

I probably saw you there yesterday chara if you were with the 32 csm comrades.
 
malatesta32 said:
BA, he was not only drunk but incoherent and clueless as to why he was there - halal pork, iraqi law? - cripes! most people on most demos have an understanding of the issues they are demonstrating about but daft lad did not. what it did was show the EDL is more like a terrace fashion whose demos will suffer once footie season starts.
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I know all of this just makes me laugh that most people focus on the one particular phrase when it is they not he who got it wrong. Oh and don't think the EDL will be affected by the football season, people were the same thing last year as well. I imagine some EDL are either on bans or priced out of modern football and these marches do a lot to recreate the old excitement. Being marched around town in escorts is hoping for a pop at the oppo is part and parcel of being a hooligan, quite rarely succeeds these days but it doesn't put people off.
 
Red Storm said:
I should have said "some". The sound ones who I'm friends with were cool, particularly the younger ones. The one with the mega phone and another were whinging to each other.

I probably saw you there yesterday chara if you were with the 32 csm comrades.
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Aye at one point folk were blocking the stall and the view of the stall from foot traffic, it wasnt ideal.
Look forward to seeing you all again
 
Arthur2 said:
Poor sod, just because he is inarticulate, does that mean he shouldn't have a voice. Also it should be noted that this comes from Press TV, an Iranian government station, how many murders etc have they covered up, it's, in my view, as bad as any of Hitlers propaganda machine.
I'm surprised you even give it the time of day, all those students who got rid of the Shah, now all dead, hanged, beaten and tortured.
The crime of this guy is that he is a drunken, inarticulate working class bloke, so I don't think Press TV have any moral ground to stand on here.

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could you give me an example of press tv reporter being drunken and inarticulate?
 
Red Storm & Urban Guerilla, it's makes me feel good knowing that there are people out their engaged in direct action again. Well done and good luck to you. Keep up the good work!
 
BlackArab said:
I know all of this just makes me laugh that most people focus on the one particular phrase when it is they not he who got it wrong.
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Agreed. I found the ray guns 'hilarity' slightly embarrassing tbh. Cheap lulz are cheap lulz, but pretending that it was actually what he said did no one any favours.
 
I know this is hardly "news" (sorry all), but Roberta Moore has popped out cheerleading for the EDL LGBT "division" (I've seen her blatherings on FB on their page) - didn't she "retire" from all EDL involvment? And why is Moore (who was previously very homophobic, judging by her EDL Jewish Division postings) suddenly cheerleading for the LGBT cause?
 
^^^I know from very reliable chats etc that Canal St already suffers a large amount of influx of homophobic morons every weekend - what on earth do the EDL want to achieve there on the day..."Bash A Queer For Tommy"?
 
Red Storm said:
I should have said "some". The younger ones are all sound, they were pleased to see the 32csm. One of the older ones mistook the 32csm as EDL until a younger one corrected him. The one with the mega phone and another were whinging to each other about standing in front of the stall putting people off.

I probably saw you there yesterday chara if you were with the 32 csm comrades.
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The 32csm comrades....I have serious reservations about their politics.
 
Urban-Guerrilla said:
Has their forum on e******d****league .org gone?

Would like to read some of their accounts/reports from yesterday.
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Found this:

'While having some food and a drink we started to receive calls off people getting section 27’s, too many to be honest. So the youth lads went off and us 4 made our way to the demo area, on the way there we came across a mob (these were no students) of 20/30 lads all in black jackets (these had been mentioned earlier in a phone call) being spoken to by the police. As we passed I was drawn to the badge on the left arm of the jackets, 2 flags one an Irish tricolour and the number 32 in the middle, So why is this group in town to attend a demo organised by swp, uaf etc who claim to represent the British working class, yet will gladly stand along side people that support attacks on the British armed forces and its citizens. Lets not forget the IRA targeted Manchester twice in the 70's and twice in the 90's.. '
 
Arthur2 said:
I see Alarm are ramping things up a bit, bad move really, sounds like they are looking for trouble.

http://towerhamletsalarm.wordpress.com/

Arthur.
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From EDL Facebook (info not a wall post)
The English Defence League will be taking our message into the heart of militant Islam within our own country on September 3rd.
The last two years of demonstrations could arguably have been dress rehearsals for this one.
For too long now this cancerous infestation has been allowed to spread & it is now time to help stop the rot, we urge all who love this country to attend.
The time has come to show the world that the Lion has now awoken, we will no longer be silenced or kettled in by the government or its police.
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... and who's ramping things up again Arthur? :facepalm:
 
On 15 July, Arthur2 said:

We will continue to kick our way into the headlines until they do something about our concerns.
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Will you "kick our way" into Tower Hamlets too, Arfur? Is "ramping things up" only acceptable when your lot indulge in it? Are you aware of the concept of hypocrisy, Arfur?
 
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