The loss of your own liberty being a small price to pay for the curtailment of someone else's?
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.
How does opening a can of beer equate with a lack of respect?I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.
sorry your liberty needs curtailing if it involves getting out of your tiny mind, brawling, vomiting and shitting in public screaming at the top of your voice and vandalism and intimidating passers by
what starts out at 10 am as two mates with a bottle of cider by 3pm is a riot
Funnily enough, "drunk and disorderly" is already an offense. Making "drinking in public" an offense won't stop people getting smashed on cheap spirits and strong lager in circuit pubs, which is the main cause of the chaos in city centers.
Ban alcohol full stop then?
I have no problem with you cracking open a can in your living room for example. Do you understand now what my comment meant....?
The no drinking in public thing is a real trait of colonial nations like from the US, Australia and New Zealand, where it is curiously taboo (religious zealotry, probably.) Doesn't stop NZ and Aussie towns from descending into brutishness on Staurday nights one little bit. If anything, in NZ, it is a hell of a lot worse than London (and they ban every fucking thing there.) Hmm, more rules, more trouble. Could there be a connection?
This sounds like a Daily Mail comment - all bluster and stereotyping.
So the banning continues what next me thinks?
So it's not just a nu labour trait then............
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others.
sorry your liberty needs curtailing if it involves getting out of your tiny mind, brawling, vomiting and shitting in public screaming at the top of your voice and vandalism and intimidating passers by
what starts out at 10 am as two mates with a bottle of cider by 3pm is a riot
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.
Being abusive about it is wrong, but I really don't understand why you, or anyone, thinks this will help. There will be just as many drunk people on PT as before, because people get drunk before they get on the bus/tube, not during the ride. Sure, they won't be drinking in front of you, but why exactly does that bother you?
(And you want the police called for people drinking who are not causing trouble?)
No, how on earth did you get that from my post? I suggest you read it again.
Drinking isn't allowed on Bristol buses and it seems to work fine. The only realy trouble is on the night buses so they have security on those.
but your lack of respect for them to have the right to choose when and where they decide to have a beer doesn't count then . Do you think drinking a can of coke on a bus shows a lack of respect as well ?
In general a can of Coke doesn't change one's behaviour and make them throw up.
a can of beer generally doesn't significantly change someone's behaviour and make them throw up.
I explained it in Post 44. If you don't think that's a good enough reason, fair enough - but those are my reasons.
They don't call you Slowjoe for nothing, do they?
Geri said:Because I have to use the bus a lot - sometimes alone, sometimes late at night, and I would prefer it if it was not full of people drinking.
We don't have conductors on our buses and any trouble means that a) the driver is potentially unaware of what is happening (if it's upstairs) and b) if he/she is aware, he/she is unlikely to be able to deal with it and have to wait for the police.
My that is splitting hairs and trying to get things to fit and suit your argument.
My that is splitting hairs and trying to get things to fit and suit your argument.
So you have no problem with people who open a beer on the bus, drink it, and do not then begin vomiting, pissing and shitting everywhere?
eta: I know this is incredibly unlikely, but bear with me
OK, nothing here, get back to us when a few more braincells are starting to knit together.