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Drinking ban applies to the bus and DLR as well as the tube

The loss of your own liberty being a small price to pay for the curtailment of someone else's?

sorry your liberty needs curtailing if it involves getting out of your tiny mind, brawling, vomiting and shitting in public screaming at the top of your voice and vandalism and intimidating passers by:(
what starts out at 10 am as two mates with a bottle of cider by 3pm is a riot:(
 
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.
 
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.
How does opening a can of beer equate with a lack of respect? :confused:
 
sorry your liberty needs curtailing if it involves getting out of your tiny mind, brawling, vomiting and shitting in public screaming at the top of your voice and vandalism and intimidating passers by:(
what starts out at 10 am as two mates with a bottle of cider by 3pm is a riot:(

Funnily enough, "drunk and disorderly" is already an offense. Making "drinking in public" an offense won't stop people getting smashed on cheap spirits and strong lager in circuit pubs, which is the main cause of the chaos in city centers.
 
Funnily enough, "drunk and disorderly" is already an offense. Making "drinking in public" an offense won't stop people getting smashed on cheap spirits and strong lager in circuit pubs, which is the main cause of the chaos in city centers.

Banning booze advertising would surely be the logical choice, as removal of cigarette advertising had a marked effect on smoking rates.
 
I have no problem with you cracking open a can in your living room for example. Do you understand now what my comment meant....? :hmm:

The no drinking in public thing is a real trait of colonial nations like from the US, Australia and New Zealand, where it is curiously taboo (religious zealotry, probably.) Doesn't stop NZ and Aussie towns from descending into brutishness on Staurday nights one little bit. If anything, in NZ, it is a hell of a lot worse than London (and they ban every fucking thing there.) Hmm, more rules, more trouble. Could there be a connection?
 
The no drinking in public thing is a real trait of colonial nations like from the US, Australia and New Zealand, where it is curiously taboo (religious zealotry, probably.) Doesn't stop NZ and Aussie towns from descending into brutishness on Staurday nights one little bit. If anything, in NZ, it is a hell of a lot worse than London (and they ban every fucking thing there.) Hmm, more rules, more trouble. Could there be a connection?

This sounds like a Daily Mail comment - all bluster and stereotyping. :(
 
Lets get real.

Whot if you have a realy heavy hospital trip thing. :eek: Or whatever. And you just whont to have a can of 4,1% or mabe 5% lets push the boat out, it could be realy bad news when you get to the hospital and the can just makes the journey possible.
Or you may be going to something thats realy cool and you just wont to feel a bit chilled when you get there. :D
Nah the ban wont work :rolleyes:
 
So the banning continues what next me thinks? :rolleyes:
So it's not just a nu labour trait then............

Just a mark of a lack of vision, the tool of the managerialist class. Re-write the rule book regularly and it looks like you are being effective. At something.
 
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others.

but your lack of respect for them to have the right to choose when and where they decide to have a beer doesn't count then . Do you think drinking a can of coke on a bus shows a lack of respect as well ?
 
sorry your liberty needs curtailing if it involves getting out of your tiny mind, brawling, vomiting and shitting in public screaming at the top of your voice and vandalism and intimidating passers by:(
what starts out at 10 am as two mates with a bottle of cider by 3pm is a riot:(

Sweet Judas Iscariot on a chariot! The post that I replied to referred to 'teenagers getting drunk and staggering around'. Assuming that these teenagers are of an age to drink legally (which is a separate issue), they have as much right to stagger when drunk as anybody else - staggering is not a crime. This has nothing to do with 'brawling, vomiting and shitting in public', which are in any case illegal, with or without a ban on drinking. If you cannot see the distinction then you must be out of your tiny mind.
 
I cannot understand the selfish mentality where poeple think they can just crack open a can wherever they choose. It shows such a basic lack of respect for themselves and others. It's really poor form.

:confused:

Unless you can offer some explanation as to why opening a beer on the bus shows, in itself, a 'basic lack of respect', then you will continue to come across as somewhat deranged.
 
Being abusive about it is wrong, but I really don't understand why you, or anyone, thinks this will help. There will be just as many drunk people on PT as before, because people get drunk before they get on the bus/tube, not during the ride. Sure, they won't be drinking in front of you, but why exactly does that bother you?

(And you want the police called for people drinking who are not causing trouble?)

No, how on earth did you get that from my post? I suggest you read it again.

Drinking isn't allowed on Bristol buses and it seems to work fine. The only realy trouble is on the night buses so they have security on those.
 
No, how on earth did you get that from my post? I suggest you read it again.

Drinking isn't allowed on Bristol buses and it seems to work fine. The only realy trouble is on the night buses so they have security on those.

No security on London night buses, in spite of drinking having been allowed previously.

Since you've been unable to explain why you support a ban, beyond a nebulous 'they have it in Bristol and it works fine apart from when they have to get in security guards', the only way to explain your views on this is to say that you find it satisfying when something you don't want to do, but others might, is banned.
 
I explained it in Post 44. If you don't think that's a good enough reason, fair enough - but those are my reasons.

They don't call you Slowjoe for nothing, do they? :rolleyes:
 
but your lack of respect for them to have the right to choose when and where they decide to have a beer doesn't count then . Do you think drinking a can of coke on a bus shows a lack of respect as well ?

Of course it does. I equate eating and drinking on public transport the equavilent of eating a sandwich on the loo. What sort of person would do that??

Drinking, however, is different. In general a can of Coke doesn't change one's behaviour and make them throw up. I dare say folk on the boards may site examples where this did happen, but I'm going for commonsense here.
 
I explained it in Post 44. If you don't think that's a good enough reason, fair enough - but those are my reasons.

They don't call you Slowjoe for nothing, do they? :rolleyes:

Geri said:
Because I have to use the bus a lot - sometimes alone, sometimes late at night, and I would prefer it if it was not full of people drinking.

We don't have conductors on our buses and any trouble means that a) the driver is potentially unaware of what is happening (if it's upstairs) and b) if he/she is aware, he/she is unlikely to be able to deal with it and have to wait for the police.

OK, nothing here, get back to us when a few more braincells are starting to knit together.
 
My that is splitting hairs and trying to get things to fit and suit your argument. :rolleyes:

So you have no problem with people who open a beer on the bus, drink it, and do not then begin vomiting, pissing and shitting everywhere?

eta: I know this is incredibly unlikely, but bear with me :oops:
 
So you have no problem with people who open a beer on the bus, drink it, and do not then begin vomiting, pissing and shitting everywhere?

eta: I know this is incredibly unlikely, but bear with me :oops:

That makes no sense whatsoever and is totally illogical.
 
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