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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

Meanwhile in France at their version of DEFRA ...

A certain Jocylene Porcher bemoans that vegans are too matey with high tech industry in their quest for meat alternatives.

Not only does she have personal connections to the pork industry, her family name MEANS pig-lkeeper !

Végans et industriels : le pavé dans la mare d’une sociologue montpelliéraine

Seems to me (anecdotal - just my observations ) that most of these high-tech replacements are eaten by meat-eaters looking for the odd meat-free alternative, whereas vegans tend to eat completely different stuff day to day.

I got bought a vegan cookbook by a friend and the main thing was that lots of the ingredients are things I don’t tend to have in the house (not that it would be a massive hassle to get them in).
 
Seems to me (anecdotal - just my observations ) that most of these high-tech replacements are eaten by meat-eaters looking for the odd meat-free alternative, whereas vegans tend to eat completely different stuff day to day.

I got bought a vegan cookbook by a friend and the main thing was that lots of the ingredients are things I don’t tend to have in the house (not that it would be a massive hassle to get them in).
Indeed.
My meals aren't even based around a savoury thing really these days - though it has to be said I'm needing to save 800kcals at the moment ...
In practice my meals are based around broccoli or sprouts - now there's something to really freak out a French viandiste....

Those realistic burgers look absolutely revolting to me - and in their attempt to emulate meat, they're compromising the benefits of plant-based food.
 
Indeed.
My meals aren't even based around a savoury thing really these days - though it has to be said I'm needing to save 800kcals at the moment ...
In practice my meals are based around broccoli or sprouts - now there's something to really freak out a French viandiste....

Those realistic burgers look absolutely revolting to me - and in their attempt to emulate meat, they're compromising the benefits of plant-based food.

Lots of nice umami things you can do that are vegan, mind.

I don’t really agree with the second part - they’re trying to add nutrients that actually emulate some of the benefits of meat, as opposed to trying to replace plant-based fare (which is obv something I think we generally need more of).

Those are things you can easily supplement, obv. It’s just that I don’t think these things are aimed at vegans on the whole, aside from as the occasional treat for the occasional carno-nostalgist (which I think are a minority with vegans, especially those who have switched for moral reasons).
 
Presumably she didn't ask for a sausage roll.

Though she doesn't actually say this.

Presumably also her comment about being traumatised is intentionally hyperbolic.
 
She asked for a sausage roll.
The story is strangely uninformative on the issue of what she asked for.

But this does raise again the question of whether it's appropriate or sensible to call a vegetarian substitute a sausage roll, if only because of the possibility of mistakes occurring
 
The story is strangely uninformative on the issue of what she asked for.

But this does raise again the question of whether it's appropriate or sensible to call a vegetarian substitute a sausage roll, if only because of the possibility of mistakes occurring
Surely then you'd ask for a veggie sausage roll. When I used to eat their awful food I would go for a veggie sausage roll, mainly because the meat option tasted like satan himself had spewed out the meat after gargling with sulfur
 
Surely then you'd ask for a veggie sausage roll. When I used to eat their awful food I would go for a veggie sausage roll, mainly because the meat option tasted like satan himself had spewed out the meat after gargling with sulfur
Possibly (we don't know because the article omits this detail) the woman did ask for a veggie sausage roll, but whoever served her misheard and thought she'd asked for a(n ordinary ie containing pork) sausage roll.
 
Possibly (we don't know because the article omits this detail) the woman did ask for a veggie sausage roll, but whoever served her misheard and thought she'd asked for a(n ordinary ie containing pork) sausage roll.
Well that's unfortunate and accidents happen. They offered her thirty quid compensation and she refused. That's her right, but I'm unclear why and what she feels she gains
 
I agree and apply the same logic to sausages and burgers (although not those cauliflower wings somebody mentioned recently, too much that)
I actually agree. Meat doesn't have a monopoly on nouns. If you can have a beef burger, a chicken burger, a lamb burger, a steak burger, etc. Then you can have a burger containing non-meat products. Same applies to sausages.
It's very petty trying to claim exclusive use of these terms
 
I actually agree. Meat doesn't have a monopoly on nouns. If you can have a beer burger, a chicken burger, a lamb burger, a steak burger, etc. Then you can have a burger containing non-meat products. Same applies to sausages.
It's very petty trying to claim exclusive use of these terms

I guess if certain languages have semantics going on, I can see why there would be arguments in terms of trade rights etc., but when it comes to English it's very silly.

Also, "cauliflower wings" - lol! :D
 
Also, "cauliflower wings" - lol! :D

Don't knock em till you try em.

buffalo-cauliflower-wings-f2.jpg
 
They look perfectly nice, but "wings"?
Weren't the "I saw you coming" crowd flogging "cauliflower steak" not too long ago? :D

They work surprisingly well as buffalo wings, you can even buy vegan raunch and blue cheese dressing to dunk them in.
 
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