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Did Palestine really exist?

Did Palestine Exist before Israel?


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astronaut said:
So ignore his silly comments.







Woooooowwwww. I don't like pointless bickering, and any adult would agree with me. If you don't see what's wrong with bickering, that's your problem.

No, sorry, it's you who has the problem. If someone makes a statement that is incorrect, that person should expect to be challenged.

You mean to tell me you don't do the same thing? Pull the other one, astroturf.
 
nino_savatte said:
No, sorry, it's you who has the problem. If someone makes a statement that is incorrect, that person should expect to be challenged.


Why challenge though on a pointless statement?

How does it make a positive contribution?

I don't think it does, if anything, it makes a negative contribution.
 
astronaut said:
Why challenge though on a pointless statement?

How does it make a positive contribution?

I don't think it does, if anything, it makes a negative contribution.


It wasn't "pointless" (unlike this tedious discussion that I'm having avec vous). he said that no one spoke "Celtic" as first language. I had the right to challenge him. If you don't like it, tough shit.

You never make a positive contribution, pal. So don't try and play the moral superior.
 
Astronaut;
Why challenge though on a pointless statement?

How does it make a positive contribution?

I don't think it does, if anything, it makes a negative contribution.




Contra-Dumptyism;

The philosophy of creating friction by means of implied neutrality.

To draw attention to one's-self by loud and unnecessary appeasements

To deliberately choose a target whilst falling off a wall
 
moono said:
Astronaut;





Contra-Dumptyism;

The philosophy of creating friction by means of implied neutrality.

To draw attention to one's-self by loud and unnecessary appeasements

To deliberately choose a target whilst falling off a wall

:D
 
moono said:
Contra-Dumptyism;

The philosophy of creating friction by means of implied neutrality.

To draw attention to one's-self by loud and unnecessary appeasements

To deliberately choose a target whilst falling off a wall



Moono = Settler

Settler = Moono

Same ingredients, same shit

Both have Palestinian blood on their hands
 
Anti-contra-Dumptyism;

not liking being perceived as a contra-Dumpty



Contra-Dumptied;

having one's neutrality refuted.

being out-neutralised by a larger Dumpty.
 
astronaut said:
No? Perhaps you need to reread it. Cool!?

I thought about responding to the rest of your post, but it's clear that you haven't understood what's really going on, the true complexity of the issues involved, at any sort of level, so you won't really understand my response either.


Absolutely, I would comment on the many points you've ignored but it is very clear that you're well too fixed in your existing opinion and more concerned with personal attacks than anything constructive. You should think about proposing marriage to Rach, you 2 could talk at each other quoting the bible or whatever scripture you like until both of you notice that neither of you are listening to anyone apart from yourselves.

I may not understand this issue all that well, but i can certainly call a spade a spade when i see it. The Israelis invaded. They discriminate against the Arabs (as my reference proved). They are therefore as bad as any oppressor you would like to think of, and not worthy of any sympathy. Until they decide to compromise there will never be peace. Eventually some nut will come along and destroy everyone with a nuclear device. And then they would have no one to blame but themselves.
 
astronaut said:
Woooooowwwww. I don't like pointless bickering, and any adult would agree with me. If you don't see what's wrong with bickering, that's your problem.

If that's the case then why do you engage in it so often?

If you really hated bickering as much as you claim you wouldn't be quite as doctrinaire as you are, quite as inflexible and self-righteous.
 
ViolentPanda said:
If that's the case then why do you engage in it so often?

If you really hated bickering as much as you claim you wouldn't be quite as doctrinaire as you are, quite as inflexible and self-righteous.



I don't bicker on minor issues. If I bicker it is on important issues such as perceptions of racism (is "Jewboy" a racist term), the definition of anti-Semitism, etc.
 
Astronaut;
I don't bicker on minor issues. If I bicker it is on important issues such as perceptions of racism (is "Jewboy" a racist term), the definition of anti-Semitism, etc.

Last time ( with luck), 'Jew' isn't a 'race'. 'Jewboy' cannot be 'racist'. Neither is 'shyster' and Semites are many people, not just Jewish Semites.
 
astronaut said:
I don't bicker on minor issues. If I bicker it is on important issues such as perceptions of racism (is "Jewboy" a racist term), the definition of anti-Semitism, etc.
so bascially you bicker abotu things which you have know knowledge because they irk you ...

good good nice to see you admitting your own bigotry... strat....
 
You should think about proposing marriage to Rach, you 2 could talk at each other quoting the bible or whatever scripture you like until both of you notice that neither of you are listening to anyone apart from yourselves.


It's quite clear that you haven't read or understood anything that I wrote previously.

I am as likely to marry Rach as I am moono -- both are extremists, both are part of the problem not the solution, both are utterly abhorent in their behavior, both are contributing to the longevity of the conflict, both have Palestinian blood on their hands.

Now, it is clear that you are a follower -- you have this urge to follow the extremists who shout loudest or who appear to be the majority -- without giving any sort of thought to the matter yourself -- if you were on a pro-Israel board, you would support Israeli, I'm quite sure.

There is however a third way -- one in which reconciliation is the objective -- not the drive to alienate by extremists. I am part of that third way, and we are holier than extremists and their followers.



Eventually some nut will come along and destroy everyone with a nuclear device. And then they would have no one to blame but themselves.


So are you saying that the Jews in Europe were living happy lives, then saw the riches of Palestine, and decided to conquer a land swimming in riches?

Perhaps the response to your poll has assured you that Israel "invaded" Palestine, etc., but the poll was strongly weighted in one direction.

For instance, #1, #3 and #4 are all pretty much the same option. Only #2 is against these 3, but even that is so against the other 3 that it is not an option. Where is a middle option, or is everything black and white to you?
 
moono said:
Last time ( with luck), 'Jew' isn't a 'race'. 'Jewboy' cannot be 'racist'. Neither is 'shyster' and Semites are many people, not just Jewish Semites.



Go fuck yourself you racist piece of shit.
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
so bascially you bicker abotu things which you have know knowledge because they irk you ...

good good nice to see you admitting your own bigotry... strat....



WTF are you on about?

Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about.

That is the problem with extremists -- if you don't agree with them, you are an idiot.
 
astronaut said:
WTF are you on about?

Just because I strongly disagree with you doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about.

That is the problem with extremists -- if you don't agree with them, you are an idiot.

then i suggest you cease to be so extreme... dickwad... :rolleyes:

then you'd cease to have these issues...

what is it that you do again ....


why is it that you cannot answer that question...


oh it's cos it's sweet fuck all isn't it... nothing in fact other than violently attack all whom disagree with you...

you total non entity...

still i respond to you as it entertains me that you continued apperplexy about your rightiousness doesn't abait one iota.....

you are my bitch astro...

and boy do you act like it....
 
moono said:
Last time ( with luck), 'Jew' isn't a 'race'. 'Jewboy' cannot be 'racist'. Neither is 'shyster' and Semites are many people, not just Jewish Semites.


Denying that "Jewboy" is a racist term is itself an act of racism.

If someone denied that "nigger" was a racist term, that would undeniably be an act of racism.

Why is it different for "Jewboy" ?

Why hasn't Moono been banned for repeated racism?


From the FAQ:

7. Racism/personal abuse/defamatory postings/gratuitous swearing etc is not allowed. We welcome lively and robust debate and have no problem with swearing (where appropriate) but posters using these forums to re-enact infantile playground battles will be clipped around the ear by the milk monitor. Please respect people's privacy and refrain from posting up personal details without their permission. Do not piss about with user names or refer to people by their real names (unless they already appear in their user name, of course). Threads that descend into personal insult-a-thons will be binned.
 
Yes, I'm well aware that racism isn't permitted. If I were a racist I'd be cautious but I don't even have to think twice about it because I'm not.

You, however, are a slander monkey. You call members racists without any evidence. You defy logic in your efforts to have your mud stick.
Slander monkey.

Astronaut;
Why hasn't Moono been banned for repeated racism?

Oh yes, a dive, looking for a sending-off. Lol.

I'll tell you why, slander monkey. I only used the term once, when describing the bit-part played by Gerald the Jewboy in an anecdotal story . You've been wanking with it for weeks.

Again, 'Jewish' isn't a 'race'. 'Jewboy' cannot be racist. 'Shyster' is in common non-racist usage and Semites are Arabs as well as other people indigenous to the region.
Nothing in the slightest 'racist' there yet you persist. Wank on.
 
astronaut said:
Denying that "Jewboy" is a racist term is itself an act of racism.

If someone denied that "nigger" was a racist term, that would undeniably be an act of racism.

Why is it different for "Jewboy" ?

Why hasn't Moono been banned for repeated racism?


From the FAQ:
indeed one wonders why as you entire contribution tot hese boards has been nothing other than bigotry arrogance and intollerence why you can not been banned

beatch ...

faq said:
10. Nutters

'Sheeple'-accusing, bigoted gun nuts, ranting xenophobes, cut'n'pasters, God-squad, disruptive 'comical' alter-egos, conspiraloons, fruitloops and small minded bigots are not welcome.
 
astronaut said:
I have plenty of evidence.

First and foremost is your denial that "Jewboy" is a racist term.

That is an act of racism in itself.

I don't understand how anyone can disagree with this? :confused:
 
10. Nutters

'Sheeple'-accusing, bigoted gun nuts, ranting xenophobes, cut'n'pasters, God-squad, disruptive 'comical' alter-egos, conspiraloons, fruitloops and small minded bigots are not welcome.


Where have I been a xenophobe?

Where have I used a disruptive 'comical' alter-egos?

Where have I been a bigot?

Come on, examples?
 
Astronaut;
That is an act of racism in itself.

Wank on, slander monkey.

I don't understand how anyone can disagree with this?

So go ask at the Jerusalem International Film Festival.
http://www.porchlightfilms.com.au/jewboy.html
We've got one Zionist throwback claiming that 'shyster' is racist and we've got Astronaut performing two-handed Dumpty wank dives. You want to support these frauds, go right ahead.

Jewboy is a film filled with longing, humour and hope about a young man finding his place in the world.
Not recommended viewing for deadheads. It contains 'longing, humour and hope'.
 
Astronaut;
More proof of racism by moono.

This is a quote by tangentlama -- hardly the biggest Zionist in the world

You're quoting another member out of context. Still, he must have seen it coming himself and he let it stand. You want to quote tangentlama ?

tangentlama; ( talking to Astronaut)
the only 'jewboy' mentioned here was in relation to moono's friend, a middle aged raf bloke who still likes to run around the football field, coach kids, and have a beer with the lads. you aren't labelling moono as 'antisemitic' for that though, instead, you've concoted a 'reason' for calling him antisemitic out of that incident. read back through, and you'll see a deliberate wind up occur.

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=159605&page=2

Sometimes tangentlama is correct, sometimes he ain't. You never are and that's why your credibility rating is zero.
 
I seem to recall making several polite "please lay off the personal attacks" posts during the past week and before. It doesn't usually work, but I thought I'd give it a try anyway.

This is the impolite one. No more of this page after page of stupid interpersonal bickering. Or there will be deletions and bannings.

The previous use of the term "Jewboy" by moono was not considered an indication of racism given context; however, moono was asked not to use the term here in future, and I believe has not done so since the original time except when it has been dragged up again by others.

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