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neilh said:
i reckon it could be a decent listen if there was someone on it being very cynical/critical of whatever they're on about, as long as each side had enough respect for each other and the format to stop it just turning into a shouting match.
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I agree with this.

Started new thread.
 
editor said:
Maybe in your own head, but I'd say that that" common usage" of the phrase is crystal clear and - as I said at the beginning - an offensive remark
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if you can't accept that common useage and dictionary definitions can be different then you are seriously out of touch with reality. Do you really think that when a term like that is used in everyday life in a debate/argument, on a bulletin board for example, that it always refers to someone seriously being part of a government secret thought crime unit?

editor said:
So what "terror tactics" and "terroristic procedures" am I currently employing, you "tiresome little shit*"?
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What's the definition of secret police brought into it for, and this talk of terrorism? I never suggested you were...in fact I never suggested anyone on here was, in fact I never suggested anyone on here was acting like though police - some might say this is a clear attempt by you of trying to spark some bullshit fight where there wasn't one


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*to use your own 'funny' description of yourself.
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don't be such a liar...it's your description of me, knicked by me for my tagline because it reminds me how ridiculous you can be sometimes...I'd appreciate it if you didn't keep calling me it, persistent personal abuse maybe?
 
Mation said:
Oh bloody hell. I feel *very* stupid now... I didn't actually realise there was any issue with anti-semitism. I thought the controversy was plain old conspiracy, and that that could be interesting if handled with intelligence.

I'm sorry drjazzz, I -am- now changing my mind and I don't think the programmes are a good idea at all.
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Excellent news.
 
easy g said:
that programme format sounds good...something like I originally talked about on this thread but what was shouted down
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This threads too long now to begin a new tangent of discussion, IMO.
 
easy g said:
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don't be such a liar...it's your description of me, knicked by me for my tagline because it reminds me how ridiculous you can be sometimes...I'd appreciate it if you didn't keep calling me it, persistent personal abuse maybe?
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Right.I see you're starting up your lies and bullshit again, clearly desperate for a ruck.

I've really had enough of your disruptive conduct here, so I'd like you to now back up your accusation and kindly list the posts where I've "kept on calling you" by your tagline over the past seven days please.

So far, I've quoted your own tag line once because it was being discussed (by laptop, as I recall). I'd be obliged if you'd now furnish me with all these other examples, please.

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Oh, and as a point of order: if I - or any of the mods here - were acting like "thought police", the people making the accusation would no longer be free to post anymore.

That's what the phrase means you see. Try looking it up sometime.
 
editor...I've never said you were thought police so drop that one...can you not read anything correctly?

as for the "tiresome little shit" you called me that on June 27th...the thread has now been deleted but here is the quote
editor said:
Christ, you're a tiresome little shit.

(editor leaves thread)
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that sir, is a point of fact, your inference that you have never used it before (why limit it to the last seven days? perhaps because your original slur has long been deleted?) is a lie
 
easy g said:
as for the "tiresome little shit" you called me that on June 27th...the thread has now been deleted but here is the quote

that sir, is a point of fact, your inference that you have never used it before (why limit it to the last seven days? perhaps because your original slur has long been deleted?) is a lie
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So that's just one, solitary example you've managed to dredge up from three weeks ago! And that's your idea of "persistent personal abuse" is it - one comment in three weeks!!!

Here's your quote again:
easy g said:
I'd appreciate it if you didn't keep calling me it, persistent personal abuse maybe?
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Now either back up your claims or apologise.

I have not 'persistently' called you a '"tiresome little shit" - that is a lie plain and simple (although I must admit that the thought does tend to cross my mind rather often when I'm reading your recent 'contributions'.)
 
it's the only occasion I can quote as it is the only thread I have saved...others have been deleted, you called me a tiresome twat as well but again that thread has been deleted but luckily I have a copy
editor said:
a tiresome, whining twat
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July 5th
 
and coupled with you quoting my description of myself (a lie...as it was you had described me as such...I see you didn't acknowledge that) on this thread it is becoming apparent that this is becoming a pattern..

I see you haven't apologised for claiming I was accusing you of being thought police...or secret police....or guilty of terrorist acts....
 
easy g said:
it's the only occasion I can quote as it is the only thread I have saved...others have been deleted, you called me a tiresome twat as well but again that thread has been deleted but luckily I have a copy
July 5th
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That doesn't say "tiresome little shit", no matter how you try and spin it, neither does your argument that I "keep on" calling you by that name.

Why don't you just apologise for clearly getting it wrong and move on?
 
easy g said:
I see you haven't apologised for claiming I was accusing you of being thought police...or secret police....or guilty of terrorist acts....
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Produce this quote please.

I do hope you're not going to be so stupid as to misread the logical argument being presented earlier on, because that would make you look like a right thicko.
 
you just don't understand do you, you've called it me more than once...said that it was my own description of myself when you know full well it was you who started it and you have repeatedly insulted me in a similar fashion recently....all because I have sometimes questioned you...

you accuse me of merely joining on a thread started by you just to goad you when I made it clear I made the same views on the subject apparent months ago...
 
editor said:
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Oh yes. That's exactly the kind of thing I want urban75 to be seen to be broadcasting, unchallenged,
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So is that a 'maybe' then? ;)

If you put half the effort into making a reply to DrJ's prog as you have into this thread I don't think you could class it as 'unchallenged'.
 
easy g said:
you just don't understand do you, you've called it me more than once...said that it was my own description of myself when you know full well it was you who started it and you have repeatedly insulted me in a similar fashion recently...
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Sorry, I'm still waiting for you to produce this quote that I'm supposed to be "apologising" for - are you ever going to produce it or is the extended wriggle here?

:confused:

Once again, allow me to point out that your user tag speaks volumes of your intentions here. If you don't like being called something, why put it under your name with each and every post and then whine if someone refers to you by your own chosen slogan?
 
DoUsAFavour said:
If you put half the effort into making a reply to DrJ's prog as you have into this thread I don't think you could class it as 'unchallenged'.
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I've no interest in taking part in DrJ's program, thanks, neither have I any interest in urban75 becoming known as the one stop radio shop for publicity-desperate conspiraloons.
 
editor said:
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Originally Posted by easy g
in your opinion...and I believe what I gave is another definition of it's common useage
Maybe in your own head, but I'd say that that" common usage" of the phrase is crystal clear and - as I said at the beginning - an offensive remark:
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Thought Police

The Thought Police (thinkpol in Newspeak) were the secret police of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four whose job it was to uncover and punish thoughtcrime. The Thought Police used psychology and omnipresent surveillance to find and eliminate members of society who were capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.

Orwell's Thought Police and their pursuit of thoughtcrime was based on the methods used by the totalitarian states and competing ideologies of the 20th century. It also had much to do with Orwell's own "power of facing unpleasant facts", as he called it, and his willingness to criticise prevailing ideas which brought him into conflict with others and their "smelly little orthodoxies". Although Orwell described himself as a democratic socialist, many other socialists (especially those who supported the communist branch of socialism) thought that his criticism of the Soviet Union under Stalin damaged the socialist cause.

The term "Thought Police", by extension, has come to refer to real or perceived enforcement of ideological correctness in any modern or historical contexts.
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secret police
n.
A police force operating largely in secret and often using terror tactics to suppress dissent and political opposition.

secret police, policing organization operating in secrecy for the political purposes of its government, often with terroristic procedures.
http://www.answers.com/topic/secret-police
So what "terror tactics" and "terroristic procedures" am I currently employing, you "tiresome little shit*"?

*to use your own 'funny' description of yourself.
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well...to me, the particularly antagonistic tone of the question here smacks of asking me to provide proof an accusation (but the post is also proof of your lie about the "tiresome little shit" bullshit)

I have not accused you of being part of a secret government terrorist organisation hellbent on controlling what or how we think and so see no need to provide proof of any terroristic procedures you may or may not have been involved in
 
DoUsAFavour said:
If you put half the effort into making a reply to DrJ's prog as you have into this thread I don't think you could class it as 'unchallenged'.
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Not only that but it would make U75 seem like a tolerant community that allows different viewpoints to be heard and if you replied would confirm that urban, as in you, does not believe in such trains of thought.
 
editor said:
If you don't like being called something, why put it under your name with each and every post and then whine if someone refers to you by your own chosen slogan?
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More than one poster has done that in the past, with garfield being the one I remember - strange and rude - or something like that quoting Miss Minnie.
 
editor said:
I've no interest in taking part in DrJ's program, thanks, neither have I any interest in urban75 becoming known as the one stop radio shop for publicity-desperate conspiraloons.
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Would you be willing to listen to the prog before banning it?


If you listen to Resonance FM a little you'll hear very similar peices.

Would you class Resonance FM as a 'one stop radio shop for publicity-desperate conspiraloons'?
 
editor said:
Once again, allow me to point out that your user tag speaks volumes of your intentions here. If you don't like being called something, why put it under your name with each and every post and then whine if someone refers to you by your own chosen slogan?
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no it doesn't speak volumes about my intentions on this site...you have some strange ideas? As was the case with Wess, I'd like you to prove how my tagline in any way speak volumes about the 7000+ posts I've made since joining this site 3 1/2 years ago

it's my tagline at the moment because I find it laughable that you called me it, it was pathetic and a typical example of your inability to deal with criticism rationally especially from those that have criticised you before...it doesn't give you or anyone else the go ahead to insult me in a similar fashion
 
DoUsAFavour said:
it would make U75 seem like a tolerant community that allows different viewpoints to be heard and if you replied would confirm that urban, as in you, does not believe in such trains of thought.
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Advert followed by reply simply doesn't work on radio.

A fourth time: the thing that would be most destructive of the site would be conspiranoids getting time to put their ramblings over uninterrupted. Then they get to claim that their paranoid fantasies are "as broadcast on urban75".

And interesting that this proposal should resurface just as urban75's public profile has shot up massively due to the interesting juxtaposition of Badger Kitten and Brian.

They've got their own bloody sites, after all. If DrJ's proposals are as serious as he says, he could set them up on Art Bell, or Rense, or prisonplanet in an instant. The entire point is to associate it with someone who isn't a fruitloop, to claim Authority.

Read the thread a couple of days ago for an extensive discussion of this, how radio works, etc.
 
DoUsAFavour said:
Would you be willing to listen to the prog before banning it?


If you listen to Resonance FM a little you'll hear very similar peices.

Would you class Resonance FM as a 'one stop radio shop for publicity-desperate conspiraloons'?
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1. I haven't "banned" it.
2. Resonance FM is nothing like urban75, so it's an utterly meaningless comparison.
 
easy g said:
it's my tagline at the moment because I find it laughable that you called me it, it was pathetic and a typical example of your inability to deal with criticism rationally especially from those that have criticised you before...it doesn't give you or anyone else the go ahead to insult me in a similar fashion
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Oh, so it's clearly got nothing to do with you trying to perpetuate a spat then?

Pathetic.

Oh, and if I can't handle 'criticism' how come you're stil point here?

:rolleyes:
 
editor said:
2. Resonance FM is nothing like urban75, so it's an utterly meaningless comparison.
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Resonance call themselves a 'community radio station' just as you describe Urban as a 'community website', which now has a radio station.
 
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