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Quartz

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Listen to his CPAC speech here talking about the American constitution. I'll say this for him, he's getting a lot better at public speaking.
 
Quartz said:
Listen to his CPAC speech here talking about the American constitution. I'll say this for him, he's getting a lot better at public speaking.
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True, though that probably just means that CCHQ are even more determined to keep him off any PPC list than they were before (if that is possible).
 
Very true. I'm not sure though that he'd be a real threat to Cameron. We've seen with William Hague that you need to be more than a good orator (and Hague can be a brilliant one) to be a party leader.
 
Quartz said:
Very true. I'm not sure though that he'd be a real threat to Cameron. We've seen with William Hague that you need to be more than a good orator (and Hague can be a brilliant one) to be a party leader.
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He isnt a threat to Cameron in terms of being a rival leader, but having another, more quotable, version of Carswell going on and on about what a complete fraud iDave is (and which they are entirely correct about, given how shamefully their ideas were nicked pre-election, then dumped post-election) probably gives the party drones nightmares.
 
frogwoman said:
he likes going to see bulls get tortured to death every year and wants to see people die because they can't afford a doctor.
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He's also a fan of Ayn Rand.

Pace, all you Randians: I am one of you. I have a small picture of the lady on my desk in the European Parliament, next to a signed photograph of Margaret Thatcher, a bust of Thomas Jefferson, and a silver medal from the Ludwig von Mises Institute. The most pleasing compliment paid to me as a politician was when some conservative students started selling a T-shirt with the slogan “Who is Dan Han?”—a reference to the famous opening line of Rand’s magnum opus, “Who is John Galt?”
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He's a cunt.
 
Quartz said:
Listen to his CPAC speech here talking about the American constitution. I'll say this for him, he's getting a lot better at public speaking.
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He speaks as if there aren't any protests at all in the states or a financial crisis come to think of it. He lives in a bubble; he's never been to those parts of the States where people are living in grinding poverty. That's the beauty of playing to a gallery; he knows no one will disagree with his sub-Randian bollocks. What I find so nauseating about him and this speech is his unctuous and cloying Americophilia.
 
never mind eh? he'll get his.

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exactly - theres at least one person here with the condition here and given that its about 1 in 20, almost certainly others. Lets just stick to the facts. That Hannan is scum, without making offenisve comments.
 
Quite I'd rather focus on the actual reasons why Hannan is a cunt - for what he believes. Cast the guy out to the wilderness with the others and don't give him any time at all.
 
I would quite happily push Hannan under a bus. Or a train. I know I should be a grown up with incisive deconstructions of his position and analysis of why his rhetoric garners appeal. But I'd rather just speculate about fatal accidents.
 
America may be the land of opportunity, but it's a land without a safety net. I particularly disagree with him about the involvement of the State. While I do have some libertarian (note the small l) sympathies, sometimes the State does do it better. The military is the obvious example, but in a rich country like America, Universal Health Care is just as valid (it wouldn't work for India). America pays more and gets a worse service than here in the U.K. The NHS has its faults, but the better-off can top it up, and the rich can go fully private. And that's fine by me. And it all still costs less: scaled up, America would save over $1T from adopting the NHS. That's a lot of money. And from what I've read, a large part of America's poverty problem is due to lack of healthcare.
 
Quartz said:
America may be the land of opportunity, but it's a land without a safety net. I particularly disagree with him about the involvement of the State. While I do have some libertarian (note the small l) sympathies, sometimes the State does do it better. The military is the obvious example, but in a rich country like America, Universal Health Care is just as valid (it wouldn't work for India). America pays more and gets a worse service than here in the U.K. The NHS has its faults, but the better-off can top it up, and the rich can go fully private. And that's fine by me. And it all still costs less: scaled up, America would save over $1T from adopting the NHS. That's a lot of money. And from what I've read, a large part of America's poverty problem is due to lack of healthcare.
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not with me. why should someone get worse healthcare because they can't afford to pay? nationalise the lot. and nationalise the pharmaceutical companies. everyone's a winner.
 
stephj said:
Yes it is shite being intersexed. If anybody here had to put up with parts of the condition, then they wouldn't make lame jokes about it.
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Apologies - as you say it was a lame joke following on from what nino had said.
 
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