Cymru and the bloody Romans!

[8ball]

It's understandable that the Welsh are ambivalent about the hordes of pretentious Germanic twats currently befouling their (our) fine island, but the Romans, while admittedly now generally vacated, never seem to come up in discussion.

We seem quite comfortable with the Holy Roman Empire (edit: actually they were not remotely holy at this point as multiple fule no) trampling over our soggy fields, building all manner of whatnot and then mysteriously drifting off, but they surely got up to some nefarious shenanigans and basically ate out on the back of various infrastructure improvements to a degree that was possibly taking the piss (in any case, I can't imagine they would have pleased everyone, what with the Welsh being known for voting for "freedom from local infrastructure improvements").

Are we too forgiving? Were the Romans better than the English? Do I need to stop being so fucking lazy and read a book?

You must decide!

 

[Pickman's model]

It's understandable that the Welsh are ambivalent about the hordes of pretentious Germanic twats currently befouling their (our) fine island, but the Romans, while admittedly now generally vacated, never seem to come up in discussion.

We seem quite comfortable with the Holy Roman Empire trampling over our soggy fields, building all manner of whatnot and then mysteriously drifting off, but they surely got up to some nefarious shenanigans and basically ate out on the back of various infrastructure improvements to a degree that was possibly taking the piss (in any case, I can't imagine they would have pleased everyone, what with the Welsh being known for voting for "freedom from local infrastructure improvements").

Are we too forgiving? Were the Romans perhaps preferable to the English? Do I need to stop being so fucking lazy and read a book?

You must decide!

the holy roman empire never trampled over our fields, soggy or otherwise.

the holy roman empire was of course famously neither holy nor roman nor an empire

 

[8ball]

the holy roman empire never trampled over our fields, soggy or otherwise.

Pedantry - decide or get off thread!

 

[JimW]

Neither holy nor Roman. Or an empire.

 

[butchersapron]

Oh no, massive history fail here.

 

[8ball]

Oh no, massive history fail here.

Yes. Massive. Deracinated by English. Sadface.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's understandable that the Welsh are ambivalent about the hordes of pretentious Germanic twats currently befouling their (our) fine island, but the Romans, while admittedly now generally vacated, never seem to come up in discussion.

We seem quite comfortable with the Holy Roman Empire trampling over our soggy fields, building all manner of whatnot and then mysteriously drifting off, but they surely got up to some nefarious shenanigans and basically ate out on the back of various infrastructure improvements to a degree that was possibly taking the piss (in any case, I can't imagine they would have pleased everyone, what with the Welsh being known for voting for "freedom from local infrastructure improvements").

Are we too forgiving? Were the Romans better than the English? Do I need to stop being so fucking lazy and read a book?

You must decide!

 

[JimW]

We only got the English because the Romans gave up. That Comes Littoris Saxonici was basically conning a wage in the latter days.

 

[Chilli.s]

Yeah, poor Caradog.

 

[Proper Tidy]

The actual romans (as opposed to the germans trading as holy romans) built chester ergo they were cunts

 

[Threshers_Flail]

The actual romans (as opposed to the germans trading as holy romans) built chester ergo they were cunts

 

[8ball]

The actual romans (as opposed to the germans trading as holy romans) built chester ergo they were cunts

Ejumucation - didn't know of the fake Romans (big hole in education about Romans - prob missed that particular year in school).

 

[JimW]

Good thread to plug Alfred Duggan's Conscience of the King again, fictional account of the founding of Wessex has Cerdic as originally a half-German scion of a British royal house who then murders his way to a throne after time in exile. Inspired partly by the anomaly of the founder of the House of Wessex having a Romano-British name.

 

[8ball]

Good thread to plug Alfred Duggan's Conscience of the King again, fictional account of the founding of Wessex has Cerdic as originally a half-German scion of a British royal house who then murders his way to a throne after time in exile. Inspired partly by the anomaly of the founder of the House of Wessex having a Romano-British name.

Was more expecting to be kicked in the direction of non-fictional books, but I'll take whatever comes.

 

[JimW]

Was more expecting to be kicked in the direction of non-fictional books, but I'll take whatever comes.

Bit dated but history is OK afaik, great read, unreliable narrator in Cerdic himself.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Ejumucation - didn't know of the fake Romans (big hole in education about Romans - prob missed that particular year in school).

I'm currently listening to The History of Rome podcast. It's bloody long (as you might expect), but broken down into quite short episodes. Great way to pass long car journeys.

The History of Rome

I'm using Google Podcasts to listen to it, but it's probably on iTunes and stuff as well.

 

[8ball]

I'm currently listening to The History of Rome podcast. It's bloody long (as you might expect), but broken down into quite short episodes. Great way to pass long car journeys.

The History of Rome

I'm using Google Podcasts to listen to it, but it's probably on iTunes and stuff as well.

Might be one for the gym.