The worst thing about it is if the men refuse to cooperate, the police arrest them, which also results with their DNA ending up on the police database
The worst thing about it is if the men refuse to cooperate, the police arrest them, which also results with their DNA ending up on the police database
At least from the link firky posted it looks like ACPO might be starting to see sense...
Similarly I had a problem with one because my title is "Ms" and they therefore assumed I was divorced and not disclosing a previous surnameAs for CRB checks, I nearly failed one over confusion about the initial in my middle name. I don't actually have a middle name
Doubt it or there would be less racism due to pressure from black policemen.
It don't really work like that IME. I have a couple of petty convictions, its never stopped me getting a job. A CRB check can't be requested until you've actually been made a job offer anyway.
It's also amazing how far employers/agencies stretch "vulnerable adults" thus potentially encompassing (for the sake of example) accountants.
How many employers are 'sensible' though? Faced with a few candidates, one of whom has a minor previous conviction, I reckon many employers would strike that person off the list. It's another way discrimination comes into the recruitment process, as it does with race or class or disability etc. I've sat on lots of interview panels and seen how conscious/unconcious bias can creep in - you need someone to challenge it: union reps, or independent panel members. I reckon the public sector is getting much better at this.
me too. But I didn't realise they're not supposed to ask until after you get the job.
It certainly used to be that only certain jobs were exempt from the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act (i.e. required a CRB). Has this changed?
As far as i understand it, thats in breach of the rules. Unless its changed in the past few years, I was trained on this in 2005.
Undoubtedly and I don't know if it has changed but do landlords adhere to legislation for example? Do the police?
Warehouse and manual jobs should not require a CRB check. Just to clarify, there's a difference between being asked about convictions on an application form anf a CRB check.
Surely though, this is down to the CRB themselves? You have to be registered with them to apply for checks.
I have no idea, just telling my own experience.
It's the Vetting and Barring Service now, btw. And employers often use an umbrella provider.
but its just a tick box, exssentially. If you say this person will have some contact, or relevant access to records, they'll check you out - just to be 'on the safe side.'
The RoA and CRB are two different things.
Yeah, if you're gonna be CRB checked, then you have to declare any convictions. Honesty.
Disclosure and Barring Service - vetting was the really absurdly over-wide one Labour tried to bring in, got dumped in 2010.
The CRB decide who can register and apply for checks.CRB don't do the hiring or firing - they merely provide in the information. I don't know how it works TBH, cesare's probably the most informed person on this thread about this.
So errr, yeah
I was over in London about 4 years ago looking for work and all the agencies that I passed seemed to be asking for CRB checks, it is not done as much here in Belfast but they insist on any convictions being declared and whenever I have done so have received no work, a mate of mine was working as a steward at Arsenal for 6 years when all of a sudden they decided a CRB was required from all employees, when his came back he was sacked straight away.
but then small places, like ours, just go through a 'broker' employer - who make us do training to ensure only the right people are put forward, but they dont check at all, its all on trust.
Ah yeah! I got so used to thinking of it as vetting and barring I keep forgetting they made it disclosure.
