Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[bimble]

France had to threaten to shut its borders to UK before our gov acted on Friday:

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[elbows]

I'll not give France all the credit, no way. The change was already underfoot, UK had already telegraphed stronger measures several days earlier, the overall approach had clearly changed by last Monday, devolved administrations like Scotland already spilt certain beans and likely applied pressure of their own. Not to mention the UK media questioning things.

 

[bimble]

Ok. You don’t have to give France any credit but their stance completely logical, why would they leave the border open unless we immediately sorted ourselves out.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Meanwhile in Wales...

 

[agricola]

Ok. You don’t have to give France any credit but their stance completely logical, why would they leave the border open unless we immediately sorted ourselves out.

Not really - this was probably Macron doing his usual faux hard man thing of seeing that the UK was about to do that anyway and then try to claim credit for them doing it.

After all, if he genuinely thought that what the UK was doing was dangerous then the time to do it was back in the herd immunity days (when it was dangerous), not a couple of weeks afterwards when the Government's creatures in the Press were all telling us what was coming anyway.

 

[elbows]

Ok. You don’t have to give France any credit but their stance completely logical, why would they leave the border open unless we immediately sorted ourselves out.

I didnt say I would give them no credit at all.

The whole thing is absurd anyway, whatever measures we took it is not exactly 'safe' for other countries to let our population travel there, there are too many infections here already for that.

 

[elbows]

Not really - this was probably Macron doing his usual faux hard man thing of seeing that the UK was about to do that anyway and then try to claim credit for them doing it.

After all, if he genuinely thought that what the UK was doing was dangerous then the time to do it was back in the herd immunity days (when it was dangerous), not a couple of weeks afterwards when the Government's creatures in the Press were all telling us what was coming anyway.

Just a small point about timing - it was only 1 week ago that the herd immunity approach died, at least in name (last Sunday was when Hancock said herd immunity wasnt the policy).

 

[agricola]

Just a small point about timing - it was only 1 week ago that the herd immunity approach died, at least in name (last Sunday was when Hancock said herd immunity wasnt the policy).

yes, but I meant when it was the policy (not after it was killed off)

 

[prunus]

National trust is trying to decide on its own whether to close all of its car parks after everywhere is rammed with visitors (smaller gardens and all indoor things they already shut).

I can probably help them with the answer to this: yes.

 

[Mation]

I've wondered if they should do something like divide the population in three by surname letter, and say each group can only go out every three days. But hard to know if that could still create big concentrations of people because they are sick of being cooped up for two days.

Rich people would only find a way to exploit that to their double-barrelled advantage

(Sorry )

 

[a_chap]

No idea if this is the right thread: there are so many Covid19 threads it's confusing for a bear of little brain like me.

I'm thinking of printing a leaflet and posting it through the letterboxes of the neighbours of the streets around me (it's about 3 dozen houses) offering to help anyone that's struggling due to self-isolation or illness. Things like trying to source groceries/supplies if they're running short.

Any helpful suggestions for me? I don't want to make things worse but equally I can't ignore the fact that people withing a few hundred yards of me might be in difficulty.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Rich people would only find a way to exploit that to their double-barrelled advantage

(Sorry )

I know this is a joke but also, lots of not-rich people have doubled up their names when they got together, and for their children, because the woman didn’t want to give up her surname.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

No idea if this is the right thread: there are so many Covid19 threads it's confusing for a bear of little brain like me.

I'm thinking of printing a leaflet and posting it through the letterboxes of the neighbours of the streets around me (it's about 3 dozen houses) offering to help anyone that's struggling due to self-isolation or illness. Things like trying to source groceries/supplies if they're running short.

Any helpful suggestions for me? I don't want to make things worse but equally I can't ignore the fact that people withing a few hundred yards of me might be in difficulty.

I couldn’t tell you where it is but back when this started someone posted a link to a draft example of such a letter.


There’s this:

How to Be a Good Neighbor Right Now

Here’s how to safely show up for your block, your building, and others near you during the coronavirus pandemic—because that’s crucial to our health, too.

www.vice.com

There’s a letter template included in that article.

Please ignore the picture showing zero social distancing in the stock photo that accompanies the article.

 

[agricola]

No idea if this is the right thread: there are so many Covid19 threads it's confusing for a bear of little brain like me.

I'm thinking of printing a leaflet and posting it through the letterboxes of the neighbours of the streets around me (it's about 3 dozen houses) offering to help anyone that's struggling due to self-isolation or illness. Things like trying to source groceries/supplies if they're running short.

Any helpful suggestions for me? I don't want to make things worse but equally I can't ignore the fact that people withing a few hundred yards of me might be in difficulty.

It would be better to organize the three dozen houses into a mutual support network so that everyone pitches in who can help, in case you get it.

 

[kebabking]

No idea if this is the right thread: there are so many Covid19 threads it's confusing for a bear of little brain like me.

I'm thinking of printing a leaflet and posting it through the letterboxes of the neighbours of the streets around me (it's about 3 dozen houses) offering to help anyone that's struggling due to self-isolation or illness. Things like trying to source groceries/supplies if they're running short.

Any helpful suggestions for me? I don't want to make things worse but equally I can't ignore the fact that people withing a few hundred yards of me might be in difficulty.

We've had one through the door the form has a #viralkindness logo, so you might find it if you search that.

 

[editor]

Rail statement

These are exceptional times. COVID-19 is changing how everyone in the UK lives, works and travels. But we know that Britain’s railway is a vital artery that keeps the economic and social lifeblood of the nation connected through this challenging period.

That is why, in order to keep essential services running over what may be a prolonged period of disruption for the country, we have worked with government to switch to a reduced timetable from Monday. It is not an easy decision, but it is a necessary one which will allow us to match the number of services available to our reduced workforce. It means that key workers like nurses, police officers and firefighters will continue to be able to get to their jobs over the coming weeks and months. It means that freight trains will continue to deliver the goods that keep our supermarket shelves stacked and our power stations running.

The reduced timetable will have around half the number of trains running compared to a normal weekday, with early morning and late evening services where possible to support those doing shift work. It won’t be perfect but we are monitoring journeys closely and should it become necessary in the weeks ahead, we will adjust services to ensure they’re being delivered to where they’re needed most. We advise anybody who has to travel to check the time of their train on the National Rail website before they set out.

If your journey is essential and you need to travel by train, please follow public health advice: if you need to cough or sneeze please ‘catch it, bin it, kill it’. If you or the people you live with have symptoms, you should stay at home. Protect yourself. Protect others. Protect the NHS.

We would like to thank all passengers for their support as we work through this time of extraordinary national challenge. We would also like to thank all our colleagues in the rail industry who, like other key workers, are to be commended for putting the needs of the country first, and whose safety remains front of mind. Together, they are keeping the country connected.

COVID-19: Keeping the country connected

Rail industry joins forces for crucial travel message

www.railmagazine.com

 

[Marty1]

Coronavirus: UK could enforce Italy-style lockdown if people fail to stay at home, minister suggests — The Independent

The government would consider an Italian-style lockdown if people fail to follow advice to stay at home during the coronavirus crisis, a senior minister has said.

apple.news

 

[Steel Icarus]

Yep, there's the narrative

 

[Steel Icarus]

"Regrettably, due to the actions of some irresponsible people, we have no option but to..."

And so the indecision, U-turning, lying etc is deflected

 

[DotCommunist]

not like tories to try and blame the outcomes of thier shit policies on a lack of personal responsibility in others

 

[bellaozzydog]

Yep, there's the narrative

Yep, there's the narrative

it’s all our fault, not government

The other thread in the narrative is “filthy Chinese eating all sorts of animals” blame the foreigner

Johnson had a fluff piece today humanising him in one broadsheet where he wrote a letter to a little girl...managing his profile while subtlety sliding cummings in as the bad guy number one in another story

this country needs a fucking journalistic revolution

 

[prunus]

this country needs a fucking revolution

extraneous word excised.

 

[Marty1]

Need to stop the blame game tbh and the media is the worst at this at the moment.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Need to stop the blame game tbh and the media is the worst at this at the moment.

You're so very dumb.

 

[Mation]

I know this is a joke but also, lots of not-rich people have doubled up their names when they got together, and for their children, because the woman didn’t want to give up her surname.

I know

 

[Kaka Tim]

will self suggesting a national unity government run by Sunak and Starmer. Definitely think there are moves against johnson from within the tory party - using cummings as a proxy. Gove will be in there as well - probably explaining why the cummings story appeared in the times.

 

[Steel Icarus]

will self suggesting a national unity government run by Sunak and Starmer. Definitely think there are moves against johnson from within the tory party - using cummings as a proxy. Gove will be in there as well - probably explaining why the cummings story appeared in the times.

Who gives the first nanofuck what Will Self reckons?

 

[Raheem]

They should have installed Grammarly - though I don't know if that spots people being cunts ....

Judging from the ads, it must incorporate some sort of cunt-locating technology.

 

[mx wcfc]

will self suggesting a national unity government run by Sunak and Starmer. Definitely think there are moves against johnson from within the tory party - using cummings as a proxy. Gove will be in there as well - probably explaining why the cummings story appeared in the times.

I have no idea where I read it or when, but that Times story today is not the first time I've heard of this approach by Cummings.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

No idea if this is the right thread: there are so many Covid19 threads it's confusing for a bear of little brain like me.

I'm thinking of printing a leaflet and posting it through the letterboxes of the neighbours of the streets around me (it's about 3 dozen houses) offering to help anyone that's struggling due to self-isolation or illness. Things like trying to source groceries/supplies if they're running short.

Any helpful suggestions for me? I don't want to make things worse but equally I can't ignore the fact that people withing a few hundred yards of me might be in difficulty.

Covidmutualaid.org has advice on how to do this safely as the virus lives for 72 hours on paper.
The group we put together round my way offers non contact support so like phone calls, dropping off groceries(ideally get them to pay the shop over the phone) picking up prescriptions. We didn’t do the leafleting as health types advised not to, so we were on the radio, the newspaper and asked GP surgeries and that to pass our details on- small community though these might not be easily done elsewhere. If you wanna chat more about this message me, I might even reply. Main issue we’ve had is people actually taking advantage of our services, not many.