Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[treelover]

Went for a run earlier. Obviously tried to keep distance, crossing road or running into road or onto grass verge etc to keep healthy space away from passers by. But amazed how so many seemed oblivious, making no effort to move over, big groups. Park was rammed including kids playground with loads of kids going on slides and swings etc, so multiple hands on equipment. On field there was an organised game of football, in proper kit with a ref. Apparently snowdon and all the beaches rammed with queues.

Incredible really.

40 years of me, me, me...

 

[Mation]

No we need more public transport not less.
From next week they are cutting bus services. Me and lots of people still need to get to work by bus. Cutting services means more people waiting for longer at bus stops/stations and even more people packed into the already overcrowded buses for even longer.

The time I am most at risk of getting infected is on my daily commute and the way to reduce that risk is to run more services not less.

More than we had at full service, or more than we do right now? I have to get to work using public transport and will probably keep having to.

When I say limited, I mean not 1 tube every minute when so many fewer people are using the service. If it operates at normal capacity, who will run it?

 

[elbows]

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Especially given that the governments way of shifting away from their 4 weeks claim was to say 3 weeks and London a bit ahead, instead of having to publicly change it from 4 weeks to 2 weeks in the space of 4 days!

 

[DaveCinzano]

Especially given that the governments way of shifting away from their 4 weeks claim was to say 3 weeks and London a bit ahead, instead of having to publicly change it from 4 weeks to 2 weeks in the space of 4 days!

It's almost like they think we're not all regularly refreshing the page

 

[Supine]

I haven't recieved one yet but people I know are receiving key worker status letters they can show with photo ID when requested.

Lock down on the way...

 

[emanymton]

More than we had at full service, or more than we do right now? I have to get to work using public transport and will probably keep having to.

When I say limited, I mean not 1 tube every minute when so many fewer people are using the service. If it operates at normal capacity, who will run it?

Well the tube is a very different animal. My bus service is dreadful at the best of times. I think if they were serious about reducing the risk of infection they should run more services at peak times, they certainly should not be cutting them. Realistically keeping it the same might be more achievable. But I don't see why we should suddenly have a shortage of bus drivers that is not affecting any other industry yet as far as I am aware.

You know it occurs to me that some people who live in London may not fully understand how shit public transport is in other areas and what cutting services means for people.

 

[Mation]

Well the tube is a very different animal. My bus service is dreadful at the best of times. I think if they were serious about reducing the risk of infection they should run more services at peak times, they certainly should not be cutting them. Realistically keeping it the same might be more achievable. But I don't see why we should suddenly have a shortage of bus drivers that is not affecting any other industry yet as far as I am aware.

You know it occurs to me that some people who live in London may not fully understand how shit public transport is in other areas and what cutting services means for people.

I wasn't suggesting cutting already poor services London and Not London have different needs.

 

[chilango]

Given the stream of posts I've seen today from all over the country about people ignoring social distancing and outdoor spaces being rammed I think we'll get enforced lockdown nationwide at some point in the coming week.

 

[killer b]

It wasn't ever going to be any different tbh.

 

[killer b]

we can easily see from literally every other country in the worlds that's had a significant outbreak that enforced lockdown is necessary, and that voluntary measures just don't work.. the idea that people anywhere in the world will stay put just because they're told to is laughable.

 

[weltweit]

What do people think will be the implications of "lock down" in London or the wider UK?

Will people still be able to go to work for example?

 

[Treacle Toes]

What do people think will be the implications of "lock down" in London or the wider UK?

Will people still be able to go to work for example?

Gonna be key worker related surely?

Other places have implemented a ban on going too far from home unless going to work. Only allowed to shop locally etc.

 

[killer b]

You can't really blame people for thinking getting out into the countryside is ok I don't think - the national trust made all their properties free entry last week, and if we can't trust the national trust to act sensibly who can we trust? (they're closing them all from tonight after the numbers turning up today).

 

[chilango]

we can easily see from literally every other country in the worlds that's had a significant outbreak that enforced lockdown is necessary, and that voluntary measures just don't work.. the idea that people anywhere in the world will stay put just because they're told politely asked to is laughable.

Ffy.

 

[brogdale]

What do people think will be the implications of "lock down" in London or the wider UK?

Will people still be able to go to work for example?

Will certainly challenge the hollowed out state/local state. I can't imagine our authorities easily putting in place the Parisian style pass papers or enforcement. i suppose that, ultimately, what the Army's on standby for.

 

[chilango]

You can't really blame people for thinking getting out into the countryside is ok I don't think - the national trust made all their properties free entry last week, and if we can't trust the national trust to act sensibly who can we trust? (they're closing them all from tonight after the numbers turning up today).

Indeed.

I saw this with my own eyes 'cos I did exactly the same.

 

[weltweit]

Gonna be key worker related surely?

Hmm, could put what remains of the economy into cardiac arrest!

Other places have implemented a ban on going too far from home unless going to work. Only allowed to shop locally etc.

China iirc only allowed one person per household to shop for food or medicines. I don't recall if it was one per day ..

 

[Treacle Toes]

China iirc only allowed one person per household to shop for food or medicines. I don't recall if it was one per day ..

Some places moved to not allowing anyone out and doing home deliveries on a rotating system.

 

[killer b]

Hmm, could put what remains of the economy into cardiac arrest!

if there isn't a comprehensive lockdown it's dead anyway.

 

[weltweit]

Some places moved to not allowing anyone out and doing home deliveries on a rotating system.

I am sure I speak for many that I didn't expect to have to spend so much time at home and as a place it just isn't designed for it.

I am reminded of a Churchill quote: We mould our dwellings and then, our dwellings mould us! :-/

 

[Proper Tidy]

It's a shame really, being able to get outdoors a bit is good for the soul and the mental health and the four walls syndrome, all people have to do is be sensible. Obviously a sizeable proportion can't. Lockdown is going to be tough

 

[Supine]

I'm a key worker and I work away from home. It looks like accommodation and food is going to become difficult. I need to eat

 

[brogdale]

With caveats about assumed trajectories etc...this is pretty convincing & very worrying.

We will be Italy in 9 days...and they locked down properly 10 days ago.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I am sure I speak for many that I didn't expect to have to spend so much time at home and as a place it just isn't designed for it.

I am reminded of a Churchill quote: We mould our dwellings and then, our dwellings mould us! :-/

I am sure many of us are really worried about being forced to stay indoors. But we can. Many don't have an 'indoors'. There is a lot we can do at home and we can adapt if we need to.

 

[brogdale]

Shit.

 

[LDC]

Given the stream of posts I've seen today from all over the country about people ignoring social distancing and outdoor spaces being rammed I think we'll get enforced lockdown nationwide at some point in the coming week.

I was skeptical we would get that, now I'm convinced we will, and I think it's not very far off either. There's a significant number of people not taking any notice of social distancing measures at all. Also I work in the NHS and we're weeks behind where we should be now. I'm very worried and think we're heading for a catastrophe, much of which could have been preventable.

 

[phillm]

I'm going to be totally fucked. The only job I'm on any kind of payroll is the low paying mag writing job.

If anybody deserves a gofund me for services to the internet it's you. Build it and they will come !

 

[brogdale]

I was skeptical we would get that, now I'm convinced we will, and I think it's not very far off either. There's a significant number of people not taking any notice of social distancing measures at all. Also I work in the NHS and we're weeks behind where we should be now. I'm very worried and think we're heading for a catastrophe.

We are, and it's going to be the result of criminal negligence.

 

[chilango]

I was skeptical we would get that, now I'm convinced we will, and I think it's not very far off either. There's a significant number of people not taking any notice of social distancing measures at all. Also I work in the NHS and we're weeks behind where we should be now. I'm very worried and think we're heading for a catastrophe, much of would have been preventable.

Yep.

At some point later I'll write more about the ideological reasons behind this, but for now I'm just too angry.

...but I'm also optimistic, for entirely different reasons.

But, yeah, lockdown is coming, and soon.

 

[weltweit]

Yep.

At some point later I'll write more about the ideological reasons behind this, but for now I'm just too angry.

...but I'm also optimistic, for entirely different reasons.

But, yeah, lockdown is coming, and soon.

I am also angry and always optimistic, I also think that lockdown is coming and necessary, but whatever I fucking do I just can't seem to stop touching my flipping face!