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Having not panic bought I'm getting low food, no tomatoes, frozen peas, eggs or soya milk. At this point I'd probably go to the supermarket àfter work but the shops are empty then.

I'm still working for now and can't go early and my partner has panic attacks in queues and crowds. Think we'll have some odd meals for a whole. I'm getting worried that I'll never be able to buy eggs again.
Ha! Yes indeed. I came to my Dad's house and he was running out of most things. Fine, that is usually easily fixed. But not when the supermarket delivery slots are so rare, and the range of things that turn out not to be available. Eggs, coffee, lentils, rice etc. But we're lucky in that there is a Spar shop within walking distance, although I want to avoid it as much as possible. (Dad=85 so high risk, although he vaguely thinks it's all a panic about nothing.)
 
Aren't parks supposed to be a safe place to go as long as you don't get too close to people, which is fairly easy in a park?
Yes, you would think they should be safe but the photo I saw somewhere on here within the last hour showed a park with people absolutely cheek by jowel. :)
 
Aren't parks supposed to be a safe place to go as long as you don't get too close to people, which is fairly easy in a park?
Yep.

On my walk today I went through 2 parks. Plenty of other folk responsibly doing the same to keep body & soul together. Felt sorry for the families...they've got to let the young'uns burn off all that energy. Until we go full-on lockdown I intend to walk every day that i can.
 
Aren't parks supposed to be a safe place to go as long as you don't get too close to people, which is fairly easy in a park?
In munich police patrol the parks urging people not to get too close. When people are permanently reminded to do so the message eventually gets through. Here it is almost impossible to keep distance, even if you are trying your best. People pass you close by, shuffle up on you, don't give way etc etc. It's very frustrating.
 
Until we go full-on lockdown I intend to walk every day that i can.
yes me too and so we should. Esp my son needs fresh air etc.
what gets me is the people who treat the whole thing as an event. people having picnincs in the park with beer, laughter and snacks. There were quite a few of them in my local park today.
I'm not expecting people to put on their sad dramatic face and get depressed, but I find it puzzling how blase about it all some people seem to be.
 
Just how fucking thick are people, especially in London. :facepalm:
I went for a walk in a park in London today. There were fewer people there than you would normally see on a sunny March day. Those people that were there were mostly just walking, not getting close to others they didn't know, and not really contacting anyone other than the person/people they went to the park with, which in the majority of cases will have been the people they live with. I don't see that as irresponsible. You get into much closer contact with people you don't know, touching surfaces touched by others, in a supermarket.
 
I went for a walk in a park in London today. There were fewer people there than you would normally see on a sunny March day. Those people that were there were mostly just walking, not getting close to others they didn't know, and not really contacting anyone other than the person/people they went to the park with, which in the majority of cases will have been the people they live with.
maybe I live in an especially thick part of town, but my experience from today's outing is v different.
 
Essential workers still need to get around though. Maybe issue with permits so only they can travel on busses, tubes etc.
There are all kinds of others who aren't essential workers but need to get about to help disabled or sick relatives, etc. Are we at this point now, because this kind of measure also puts a different group of people at risk?
 
Ah ok. I was in Regent's Park. Far from empty but it can get very busy there and this wasn't. Maybe different further out?
From what I saw today and yesterday I can only take that we need playgrounds shut and cops patrolling the parks urging people not to get close to strangers.
Fuck me, that's what it has come to....me demanding more police in local green spaces :facepalm:
 
OK, all major city dwellers are thick.

Being serious, there's far more cases in London than anywhere else in the UK, these twats need to wake-up.
The truth is we don't actually know how many cases there are anywhere in the UK, because of the absence of testing. There are also far more people in London than in any other region of the UK.

Genuine question for someone who can be bothered to do the necessary sums - are there significantly more identified cases and/or deaths per head of population in London compared to elsewhere?
 
They're not
But as others have pointed this effects essential workers, it effects people who need to move. I don't know where you are chilango but people here definitely are behaving differently, Leeds city centre is much quieter than usual.

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As for the other countries have handled this better, Johnson needed to listen to the scientists. Have people actually looked at the table elbows made? The UK is not an outlier for Western Europe, it is following the same trend as Spain, France and Italy (and Germany by number of cases, though not by deaths).
 
In munich police patrol the parks urging people not to get too close. When people are permanently reminded to do so the message eventually gets through. Here it is almost impossible to keep distance, even if you are trying your best. People pass you close by, shuffle up on you, don't give way etc etc. It's very frustrating.

Why is it better in Munich than here? There are loads of enormous parks in London with wide paths.

Yes, you would think they should be safe but the photo I saw somewhere on here within the last hour showed a park with people absolutely cheek by jowel. :)

Either people who lived together anyway, or a photo from the past, or irrelevant.

You can't build up a city with lots of people living in overcrowded conditions and no outside space, even with kids, close down workplaces and schools, and then tell them that even going to the park is a bad thing. It's not like you're forced into close contact like on a tube train, or share air like in an office.
 
We went to take our daughter out to a big green space for a run art and some fresh. Rammed with people. Ice cream can with a long, tightly packed queue etc.

People are just not socially distancing at all IME.

No, there's just been footage on the news of Newcastle city centre looking busy today, and plenty of streets round me look no different, or only marginally so.

Why the fuck are the council and cops not going round with loudhailers announcing people to stay indoors unless essential?
 
The truth is we don't actually know how many cases there are anywhere in the UK, because of the absence of testing. There are also far more people in London than in any other region of the UK.

Genuine question for someone who can be bothered to do the necessary sums - are there significantly more identified cases and/or deaths per head of population in London compared to elsewhere?
London is a particular hotspot, yes. Not surprising really, given how many people pass through.

Coronavirus UK: how many confirmed cases are in your area?
 
Why is it better in Munich than here? There are loads of enormous parks in London with wide paths.
I can only guess that people are more used to it because Bavaria is a few days ahead to London with school closures, soft lock downs etc etc.
This is anecdotal btw, not a first hand account.
 
There are all kinds of others who aren't essential workers but need to get about to help disabled or sick relatives, etc. Are we at this point now, because this kind of measure also puts a different group of people at risk?
I'm including carers as essential. My dad needs them.

As an aside, it was pretty busy when I went out earlier. Traffic levels seem about normal for here. Where the fuck everyone's going, I don't know. Yes, obviously I was part of that busyness but I needed some fresh food. Went to the local butcher's and green grocers. I don't go in the nearby supermarket at the best of times as it does my head in but apparently there were some more of the usual items. Hopefully the panic buying nonsense will evaporate over the next few days. And I'm not blaming people buying an extra bottle of milk. But the cunts buying 15 pizzas, 72 bog rolls etc.
 
But as others have pointed this effects essential workers, it effects people who need to move. I don't know where you are chilango but people here definitely are behaving differently, Leeds city centre is much quieter than usual.

I know.

...but that's the logic behind a transport shut down. Stop people getting around.

I don't know if it's desirable, or possible.
 
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