Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

[Badgers]

Do they sell lager?

 

[SarfLondoner]

Do they sell cheese and onion crisps ?

 

[T & P]

This thread is the thread that keeps on giving! (Or at least keeps on going)

Wondering if it remain active till Xmas? Cheese is an important part of Xmas, after all...

Shame champagne isn't...

Fuck, I think the Xmas edition of Offline should be held at C&F. Everybody loves a bit of bubbly at Crimbo...

 

[treelover]

I don't blame them. I have friends who've sold up after 40 years in Brixton, bought a house on the south coast and pocketed more than half a million. But they did not sell to people like them - people like them (they're retired, he was a printer, she worked in admin jobs) are nowhere near able to buy even a flat in Brixton now, let alone a house. They weren't forced out (although they were pretty skint - Maxwell stole most of his pension), but the choices were stark: stay in Brixton and live carefully, or move out and have more money than they know what to do with. It's their children who are forced out.

That's incredible, profits like that, something is very very wrong with this Turbo capitalism, in many ways the restructuring of housing isn't much different than the old communist era where the elites(now the oligarchs, bank bosses, etc) lived in the best housing followed by the apparatchiks(finance workers, media, etc), while whole groups of families shared one flat.

 

[Rushy]

That's incredible, profits like that, something is very very wrong with this Turbo capitalism, in many ways the restructuring of housing isn't much different than the old communist era where the elites(now the oligarchs, bank bosses, etc) lived in the best housing followed by the apparatchiks(finance workers, media, etc), while whole families shared one flat.

That even happens in some of the housing co-ops. Set up on a principle of distribution according to need but empty nesters (sometimes those who set the thing up) don't want to downgrade when the time comes. You end up with big houses occupied by a couple at a very low rent and young families in a 1 bed with no garden.

 

[treelover]

This is so true. And so sad.

Renting was, once, viable in central-ish London. No more.

And, in Liverpool, houses are trading for £1.

only in some areas, plenty of very expensive housing elsewhere.

 

[treelover]

A bit harsh I think. What I have heard is that artists are now leaving London or not coming here. Have heard from an artist friend that there is arts scene developing outside London up North. Where it is still possible to get cheapish accommodation.

certainly is here, biggest art community outside London, and yes we are starting to posh resaurants nearby to the studios,*


still not sure why this happens

 

[sleaterkinney]

It's packed today. Do they do other food besides cheese?.

 

[treelover]

Trite and meaningless? How much do you need to spend on a smartphone to gain "social mobility and perhaps work"?



A keen deal. Make sure you share these moneysaving tips with the most needy of the area, so they don't miss out.

Aren't these the tools of his trade?, cheap shot.

 

[teuchter]

Aren't these the tools of his trade?, cheap shot.

Just like fancy wine, cheese and foie gras are the tools of C&F's trade. It's ok for editor to make a living facilitating wealthy peoples' expensive consumer choices, but apparently not the owners of that shop.

 

[Ms T]

£40 for a week food budget is actually a lot if you are signing on and paying all your household bills.

It's about half that per person for the lowest income group, according to The Skint Foodie.

http://www.theskintfoodie.com/spending.html

He also devotes a whole section of his blog to cheese!

 

[Hollis]

He also devotes a whole section of his blog to cheese!

Well, I hope he limits it to a discussion of cheddar.

 

[editor]

Just like fancy wine, cheese and foie gras are the tools of C&F's trade. It's ok for editor to make a living facilitating wealthy peoples' expensive consumer choices, but apparently not the owners of that shop.

Do you actually believe the barking nonsense you write?

In case you missed it, I don't sell anything to wealthy people. In fact, the only thing I sell is Brixton Buzz Beer, ALL the profits of which go to a local soup kitchen.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Just like fancy wine, cheese and foie gras are the tools of C&F's trade. It's ok for editor to make a living facilitating wealthy peoples' expensive consumer choices, but apparently not the owners of that shop.

That's a pretty desperate attempt at an analogy tbh.

 

[teuchter]

Do you actually believe the barking nonsense you write?

In case you missed it, I don't sell anything to wealthy people. In fact, the only thing I sell is Brixton Buzz Beer, ALL the profits of which go to a local soup kitchen.

I thought you claimed that the reason you need your £458 smartphone is so that you can review software for similar devices in your job as a freelance technology writer. Did I misunderstand?

 

[editor]

I thought you claimed that the reason you need your £458 smartphone is so that you can review software for similar devices in your job as a freelance technology writer. Did I misunderstand?

What I do for work and what phone I own is totally irrelevant to a discussion about the social and economic ramifications of the opening of a champagne bar in the poorest ward in Lambeth - and that is the topic of this thread. If you're that fascinated by my choice of smartphone, feel free to ask me in the tech forum.

Your continuing obsession with point scoring and posting up a stream of ad hominems does nothing but disrupt threads and is to the detriment of the forum overall, so I'd like you to stop now please.

 

[simonSW2]

I thought you claimed that the reason you need your £458 smartphone is so that you can review software for similar devices in your job as a freelance technology writer. Did I misunderstand?

This is a yawn-inducing pursuit of a non-issue. Boring thread clutter.

 

[Onket]

This is a yawn-inducing pursuit of a non-issue. Boring thread clutter.

And have you read the rest of the thread?!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

And have you read the rest of the thread?!

This is a yawn-inducing pursuit of a yawn-inducing pursuit of a non-issue.

 

[Onket]

This is a yawn-inducing pursuit of a yawn-inducing pursuit of a non-issue.

And have you read the rest of the thread?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Actually, on balance, it's another attempt to distort the arguments involved. We saw this previously with the bizarre "but the Albert serves champagne" thing - that was attempting to redefine the argument against C&F as some sort of "anti-champagne" one. (As well as being weirdly personal - "your pub serves champagne".) Now it's trying to redefine the opposition as one about spending money on anything at all. You bought a thing how dare you complain about people buying things because that is what you are talking about here despite everything else you say.

I bought some shoes the other day. I'm such a hypocrite.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

And have you read the rest of the thread?

You're such a character.

 

[Onket]

You're such a character.

Right.

 

[Hollis]

Actually, on balance, it's another attempt to distort the arguments involved. We saw this previously with the bizarre "but the Albert serves champagne" thing - that was attempting to redefine the argument against C&F as some sort of "anti-champagne" one. (As well as being weirdly personal - "your pub serves champagne".) Now it's trying to redefine the opposition as one about spending money on anything at all. You bought a thing how dare you complain about people buying things because that is what you are talking about here despite everything else you say.

I bought some shoes the other day. I'm such a hypocrite.

No - you've misunderstood.

There is an interesting point about 'inclusivity' and 'exclusivity', which isn't just economic. But the Editors argument about spending money on things I don't like - which is the way its been developed, is swiftly dealt with.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

the Editors argument about spending money on things I don't like -

Sorry, I must have missed that one. Can't seem to see it now either.

 

[Hollis]

Sorry, I must have missed that one. Can't seem to see it now either.

Really! Look harder then.

 

[marty21]

how can anyone have the nerve to post on this thread from their pricy mobiles, laptops, tablets and PCs is beyond me.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Really! Look harder then.

Don't leave me in suspense now - I must be completely blind to have missed a bit where he was arguing about spending money on things he doesn't like. (Or, for that matter, about spending money on things you don't like, which would be a bit odd.) I willingly concede that I'm not capable of finding it on my own.

 

[Onket]

Really! Look harder then.

I can only presume it was an attempt at humour.

 

[Onket]

Don't leave me in suspense now - I must be completely blind to have missed a bit where he was arguing about spending money on things he doesn't like. (Or, for that matter, about spending money on things you don't like, which would be a bit odd.) I willingly concede that I'm not capable of finding it on my own.

Yep. Definitely an attempt at humour.