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Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

I don't believe anyone thought of it as a cheapo cafe when it launched. It was immediately a big step up from anything else nearby.
It was a small cafe/bar run by a local couple. It was not expensive. I think their veggie breakfasts were £3 or something.

Although it may have played some microscopic part in the changes that occurred in Brixton many years later, the fact that I did a tiny website for them over a decade ago is utterly irrelevant to the discussion about an upmarket West End champagne bar opening in Granville Arcade.
 
I just passed by ( C+F )for a gander, there was a few in punters in, didnt look particularly like decadent champagne swillers tbf
honest burgers was packed though, maybe they were having a cup of tea and watching the queue app.
Anyway, I was shocked how out of place it looked, deffo on a different level to what we've seen before.
 
It looks like something out of Hampstead or Borough Market to me.
Maybe even too posh for Borough Market imho although I dont hang around there if I can help it, don't know Hampstead at all so can't comment.
I could imagine it in Soho though, or mebbe somewhere like Padstow, or Salcombe in Devon which have well and truly been turned over by monied leeches.
 
So the existing leaseholders can now realise windfalls of £50k?

Does this mean the gentrification of the market is not wholly bad for them, at least those who want/have to/need/forced to leave?
That's a pretty big wedge to get, if true. But I think everyone is on different length leases. Some are / have been month to month - others are long term. Short ones, or ones near the end of a long term, will be worth nothing, I guess. There will be other terms restricting passing leases on. I've never seen any of the contracts.
 
I just passed by ( C+F )for a gander, there was a few in punters in, didnt look particularly like decadent champagne swillers tbf
honest burgers was packed though, maybe they were having a cup of tea and watching the queue app.
Anyway, I was shocked how out of place it looked, deffo on a different level to what we've seen before.

I sauntered past too and noticed they're selling fouix grasse (couldent be arsed to spell check!!)
 
It's just £40 for two hours tasting fois gras and champagne with the Let's Bubble! people.
Smooth, creamy and irresistible, the rich and delicate flavour of foie gras is a divine pairing with Champagne, with the carbonation and yeast of the fizz cutting through the fat of the liver.
 
All queued up for another lap then?

It seems to me there are two strands to the seemingly endless cycle on here. Firstly there's a tendency to divide people into Bad People (yuppies, hipsters, newcomers, anyone who's bought a burger at any point) and Good People (old skool Brixton). The line is never going to be clear though and it's always going to result in endless bickering and accusations of hypocrisy (sometimes quite justified IMHO). It gets people's backs up and it's not really a very useful explanation of what's happening IMO.

The second is what tends towards a pure free-market argument. People's money is their own and they can spend it on what they want (some of the people involved would deny that's their view I'm sure but that's essentially how the argument functions). The end result being to ignore (or disregard the importance of) the very real changes that have been going on. 'But Bouji's South is only slightly more expensive than Champagne and Fromage, what's the problem?'

I think it would be helpful to be able to look at people's behaviours in a way that doesn't put them into groups quite so much. So to take Honest Burger, say, is everyone in there a terrible person, waving their bundles of cash at the poor? No not really. They're just in there buying a burger at a price that isn't beyond the means of most people, some of time at least. It's not an unreasonable way to behave IMO. But is the place a gentrifying influence? Yeah, it clearly is. Is it possible for the thread to look at that without there being a fight? Dunno.

I'm not taking the Champagne Bar as example though because that is taking the piss a bit.

Back on page 60, I suggested that if people cared that much about this change they start a campaign - not a Yuppies Out Campaign. Two people liked that and no-one else suggested that they thought that that is a way forward. Instead people have argued for the last 16 pages.

At least for up ever reason, Yuppies Out actually did something where as you lot aren't doing much. And please, the stuff about raising awareness by having a discussion only goes so far. You have to take action!
 
To be fair to gabi (and the Lounge), I never remember it being a cheapo cafe. I've no idea whether it used to sell champagne but its general offering has remained fairly consistent over the years. I don't believe anyone thought of it as a cheapo cafe when it launched. It was immediately a big step up from anything else nearby.

The Lounge actually started in smaller premises further up Railton to where it is now, on the stretch between Kellett and Saltoun Rds. It moved to its current location (the old Brixton Wholefoods) and became more of a cafe/bar, serving alcohol etc.
 
I think the delivery service would be the most practical and positive thing.

I'd love it if someone could bring me sausages from Dombey and seabass (3 for £7) from Ilias, ne Dagons.
 
ed, if u really wannna slow gentrification in brix, close this forum and ur brix related web pages. cos believe me they don't help. when people r deciding on an area they read all they can.
 
Urban75 paints a picture of a place where loads of trendy, lively shit is going on. Take it all down and it might return once again to a largely ignored, feared suburb. Ed is turning it into the west end of the dirty saaaaarf.
 
ed, if u really wannna slow gentrification in brix, close this forum and ur brix related web pages. cos believe me they don't help. when people r deciding on an area they read all they can.
I'm pretty sure these forums aren't exactly encouraging well heeled types into the Brixton area.
 
Some of it is, I remember reading stuff about a robbery at the library (?!) and loads of jokes about it, helicopter/police chases, shooting and stabbing incidents, and now the majority of posts is about where to eat well or where to shop next, discussing the major supermarket chains at lengths (and I don't mean them taking over old pubs but discussing queues and stock and layout etc, I mean, really?) , imo that definitely does encourage well heeled people into the area. Only needs one estate agent to ask 'what is West Norwood like' (just an example) and they'll be supplied with everything they need to know. only a miracle can save the place..
 
... discussing the major supermarket chains at lengths (and I don't mean them taking over old pubs but discussing queues and stock and layout etc, I mean, really?) , imo that definitely does encourage well heeled people into the area...

^THIS

b/w

not sure it makes sense to blame the rampant gentrification that is happening right across London on a local Brixton forum.
 
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