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Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

Just the one you named. Dangerously good. But I avoid shopping in E Dulwich, except for kids' shoes.

:D didn't we once have a set-to about this because you were going to Northcote Road for shoes and I advised you to go to Lordship Lane instead. I seem to recall you were very snooty about this idea?
 
lol and people whinge about gentrification..

How about all the incomers just fuck off back to the back of beyond..you could sort out house prices, schools, whingeing and poncey deli's in one swoop.
 
I'm mostly talking about the Cornish\Welsh btw....them with their fancy pasty shops and hip websites.
 
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I think the suggestions earlier in this thread that somehow this protest isn't legitimate, perhaps because 'people haven't opposed payday loan shops or Seven or Cannon & Cannon' or whatever, is fucking bollocks. You don't get to pick and pick and choose what people want to protest about.

We have a long history of protest and resistance in Brixton and I reckon it's a fucking insult to all the locals and activists (some who use these boards, but many who don't) who've put their time and their lives into trying to make things better. In just the past few years locally we've had an active pensioners' anti-cuts group, loads of housing activists and protests, boycott workfare shutting down various retailers and protesting outside A4E on Brixton Road, local public sector strikes, UkUncut shutting down various banks and businesses, anti-cuts union activities, campaigns to save local libraries/the Rec/etc, anti-Foxtons stuff, people protesting planning applications and asset sell-offs, anti-eviction protests, a Thatcher death party....

...and at the same time living standards are going down, people are being priced out of the area, or evicted....

...and yet somehow this protest is unfair on the champagne-swilling wealthy classes who are prepared to spend £50 on a few drinks....

fucks sake.
 
I've really no idea what you're on about, I'm afraid. What the hell is an upmarket bar for donkeys and what marketing materials have I designed for them? :confused:

Apologies for abbreviating such a complex term. Let me clarify. Donkey's years.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/donkey's years

chiefly British
: a very long time

Oh, and here's the marketing materials I was referring to.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...hip-and-trendy-people.2204/page-2#post-139319

Arguably that place was one of the pioneers of brixton's latest wave of gentrification. Really cant be arsed reading ten more pages of this but if you could lay off the personal abuse that would be appreciated btw.
 
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Tis like anywhere since cities came into being, bohemians move in, followed by gentrifiers....not going to change it and do think this the wrong target, but an easy one I guess. Effect rather than cause.

Aren't cities meant to be changing, fluid etc...I find it fascinating how they change over time
 
Its like the Barratts Brixton square issue. I knew we would probably lose but it was doing it to make it clear that a lot of people were not happy about it that counted.

I'm more pissed off about two Sainsburys on Brixton Road and a new William Hill!!

(Although housing issues and the Barratt's Brixton Square issue should be what people are shouting about)
 
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I don't think it even needs to go away for 'victory': just change its name. If it had been called "Brixton cheese and wine" it would have opened without a fuss.

"Cheese and wine for genuine working class Brixton types keeping it real in the Ghetto" (Quite a long piece of signage needed)

I can see the marketing campaign now! "Come sit on second hand furniture and share moldy cheese with the locals"
 
What the hell is an upmarket bar for donkeys and what marketing materials have I designed for them? :confused:

Actually, the recently arrived to brixton people who are organising this protest against recently arrived to brixton people might be able to help you out...

The band were called Fat White Family and they’d crawled out of the squats of South London. They sounded like a mix of Bong Water, Charles Manson, the Butthole Surfers round a campfire, the most smacked out and slowest Birthday Party and Cramps numbers. And someone on Twitter said that one of them had ridden a donkey into a pub. I could imagine it. With every acid head, junkie, squatter, artist, desperado and caner in the area casting palm leaves on the floor before him. I could imagine him riding right up to the bar and saying: “Two pints of Stella please and a pickled gherkin for my ass.”

http://thequietus.com/articles/11781-fat-white-family-interview
 
I tend to agree with Brixton Hatter tbh.

There's a fairly simplistic view of the gentrification process put out on here sometimes, where a cosy established community of poor folk are booted out by the evil wealthy. I think that's a massive simplification, the reasons for which have been gone over and over many times on here. But the actual effects of what's going on are very real and the ultimate message of all the 'but what about this?' sort of objections is mostly 'don't do anything.'

In all honesty this protest doesn't seem all that well thought out, it does look a bit like what it criticises, and it seems to be strongly associated with a band whose main characteristics are being fucking shit, and being complete wankers. But at least it's something, and maybe something will come out of it. Maybe not but who knows?
 
They sound dreadful.
I know they were on at Offline recently weren't they. Sorry Editor! :-D
 
Monkeygrinder - spot on.
I think Winot is right about the name. It's the name that provokes the anger. It's so wanky.

If they'd called themselves Bubblecheese or something, there would be no protest.
 
Monkeygrinder - spot on.
I think Winot is right about the name. It's the name that provokes the anger. It's so wanky.

If they'd called themselves Bubblecheese or something, there would be no protest.
:eek: Even I'd protest if it was called that! :D
I agree the name is not doing it any favours although I imagine it was intended to sound fun rather than pretentious or clever. Dropping in a foreign word Del Boy style is seen by some as showy or posh.
 
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I tend to agree with Brixton Hatter tbh.

There's a fairly simplistic view of the gentrification process put out on here sometimes, where a cosy established community of poor folk are booted out by the evil wealthy. I think that's a massive simplification, the reasons for which have been gone over and over many times on here. But the actual effects of what's going on are very real and the ultimate message of all the 'but what about this?' sort of objections is mostly 'don't do anything.'

In all honesty this protest doesn't seem all that well thought out, it does look a bit like what it criticises, and it seems to be strongly associated with a band whose main characteristics are being fucking shit, and being complete wankers. But at least it's something, and maybe something will come out of it. Maybe not but who knows?

I think it's the protest itself by this Yuppies Out group that bugs me - nowt against the idea of getting rid of yuppies in the area (though how we define this might be an issue) or protesting but I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Their facebook page is heavily stylised - creating a kind of 'Yuppies Out' Brand - there is no conversation/dialogue about supporting other campaigns. I think the only thing to come out of it is publicity for the champagne place, publicity for Yuppies Out and for Brixton Buzz who have written lots about it.

Real impact for people - not alot.
 
I think it's the protest itself by this Yuppies Out group that bugs me - nowt against the idea of getting rid of yuppies in the area (though how we define this might be an issue) or protesting but I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Their facebook page is heavily stylised - creating a kind of 'Yuppies Out' Brand - there is no conversation/dialogue about supporting other campaigns. I think the only thing to come out of it is publicity for the champagne place, publicity for Yuppies Out and for Brixton Buzz who have written lots about it.

Real impact for people - not alot.

It's a symbolic protest and ought to be a bit of fun, keep it real?
 
I think it's the protest itself by this Yuppies Out group that bugs me - nowt against the idea of getting rid of yuppies in the area (though how we define this might be an issue) or protesting but I don't know who they are or what their agenda is. Their facebook page is heavily stylised - creating a kind of 'Yuppies Out' Brand - there is no conversation/dialogue about supporting other campaigns. I think the only thing to come out of it is publicity for the champagne place, publicity for Yuppies Out and for Brixton Buzz who have written lots about it.

Real impact for real people - not alot.

Apart from making a couple of people opening a bar in Brixton feel very threatened. (As if it is not obvious, they are quoted in Brixton Blog as saying they are worried.)

I don't mind mind protest in general but I don't like the flavour of this one. It's particularly disappointing to see individuals who sought public support for the aggressive manner in which Carlton Mansions was being handled, supporting this kind of bullying of one shop. Pretending that a campaign with people talking about throwing bricks through a particular shop's windows and calling for death to Yuppie scum (whoever they might be) is peaceful is simply denial.
 
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