Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

[leanderman]

Is it only French cheeses they do then?

I think so

 

[Ms T]

Their house champagne will be £7.50 by the glass

Have you been employed as media relations, lm?

 

[Manter]

I really don't get this abuse of women with babies. Omg how dare they go out with their pushchairs and there babies and socialise during the day. Stay at home ffs out of our way.
Declaring an interest - I'm an occasional not very yummy daddy btw. I take my baby son to a cafe for a coffee and a sausage sarnie. I bet I wouldn't get shit like this. It really annoys me for some reason.

It annoys me for very obvious reasons

 

[leanderman]

There's something of a divide in the UK, and definitely London, now between those who got sorted for housing before the boom (either by buying or by getting social housing when it was still possible to get it) and those who did not. We're in a very fucked situation now - if you didn't get yourself sorted then, there are only bad options available to you - stretch yourself for a mortgage in a place you don't even really want to live, or pay over the odds for a private, insecure place that you might be booted out of with two months' notice.

This is so true. And so sad.

Renting was, once, viable in central-ish London. No more.

And, in Liverpool, houses are trading for £1.

 

[leanderman]

Have you been employed as media relations, lm?

They are paying me in champagne.

 

[T & P]

I really don't get this abuse of women with babies. Omg how dare they go out with their pushchairs and there babies and socialise during the day. Stay at home ffs out of our way.
Declaring an interest - I'm an occasional not very yummy daddy btw. I take my baby son to a cafe for a coffee and a sausage sarnie. I bet I wouldn't get shit like this. It really annoys me for some reason.

One of the funniest threads in here for years involved, funnily enough, both yummy mummies and The Brixton Village. There was much dismay and consternation at women with expensive prams taking a lot of space at various coffee shops and restaurants in the Village.

Perhaps all C&F needs to do to win our acceptance is to ban prams and infants from its premises.

 

[Manter]

"Yummy mummy is a slang term used in the United Kingdom to describe young, attractive and wealthy mothers" - Wikipedia

So if you're not wealthy you are not being got at. I actually think it's more class than wealth.

Yeah, but no one stops and asks about your actual wealth (or class, if you'd rather) do they? They just see a group of mothers drinking overpriced coffee in the middle of the day and make assumptions.

/bugbear /derail

 

[Ms T]

This is so true. And so sad.

Renting was, once, viable in central-ish London. No more.

And, in Liverpool, houses are trading for £1.

I have a colleague - lovely old-school journo, union man - who lives in Soho! He bought a flat years ago on Wardour Street. Mind you, I think he might be secretly posh.

 

[Ms T]

Yeah, but no one stops and asks about your actual wealth (or class, if you'd rather) do they? They just see a group of mothers drinking overpriced coffee in the middle of the day and make assumptions.

/bugbear /derail

Tbf, that's true of all of us who might hang out in BV on occasion. I bet everyone thinks I'm one of these arriviste types. We all make assumptions about everyone, all the time.

 

[Manter]

Tbf, that's true of all of us who might hang out in BV on occasion. I bet everyone thinks I'm one of these arriviste types. We all make assumptions about everyone, all the time.

True enough. Doesn't stop it really bugging me though

 

[ffsear]

I really don't get this abuse of women with babies. Omg how dare they go out with their pushchairs and there babies and socialise during the day. Stay at home ffs out of our way.
Declaring an interest - I'm an occasional not very yummy daddy btw. I take my baby son to a cafe for a coffee and a sausage sarnie. I bet I wouldn't get shit like this. It really annoys me for some reason.

Its called jealousy!

 

[Winot]

Was thinking about boohoo saying about branding.

The ES piece says this is independent shop supplied by independent family producers. The emphasis according to there website is against mass production and for artisan production.

One review I read said there shops are like going into a French village. There own website talks of "rustic" fare.

The brand incorporates aspects of counter culture/ green politics . Such as opposing mass production. Supporting small is beautiful ethos.

In reality it is like Marie Antoinette "farm" where she played at living the simple rural life.

C&F is example of how capitalism incorporate oppositional politics. The brand is exclusive high end product. It is an example of successful niche marketing. There are those with disposable income in London who can buy into this slice of fantasy rural rustic life.

I think the "slice of fantasy rural rustic life" is something you've invented.

As I understand it, they are stocking grower champagne (Récoltant-Manipulant) rather than champagne from the large houses. In other words, independent producers who own the vineyards the wine comes from.

In France, this is considered a good thing. Supporting independent producers. Here, it would appear that champagne as a drink is so freighted with negative connotation that the positive side of things is obscured.

 

[trashpony]

Tbf, that's true of all of us who might hang out in BV on occasion. I bet everyone thinks I'm one of these arriviste types. We all make assumptions about everyone, all the time.

It was that photo of you in the Guardian that did it

 

[Gramsci]

Their house champagne will be £7.50 by the glass

Says £8 here.

Typical ES headline:

Brixton property is bubbling up as champagne bar opens

Nice pic of the happy couple behind Yuppy Fizz as well.

 

[Ms T]

It was that photo of you in the Guardian that did it

Shut it. You're so gentrified even your kittens play with wine boxes.

 

[TruXta]

I think the "slice of fantasy rural rustic life" is something you've invented.

As I understand it, they are stocking grower champagne (Récoltant-Manipulant) rather than champagne from the large houses. In other words, independent producers who own the vineyards the wine comes from.

In France, this is considered a good thing. Supporting independent producers. Here, it would appear that champagne as a drink is so freighted with negative connotation that the positive side of things is obscured.

There'll be no champagne for you after the revolution.

 

[oryx]

Just a matter of time. Brixton has been gentrifying ever since the clash name checked it in that song.... blame them.

Brixton (and indeed the Hoxton/Shoreditch area) have indeed been gentrifying since at least the 80s.

In the first wave of my friends buying property, they did so in those areas, attracted by cheap property, good transport and places like the Bass Clef & Fridge.

 

[TruXta]

Brixton (and indeed the Hoxton/Shoreditch area) have indeed been gentrifying since at least the 80s.

In the first wave of my friends buying property, they did so in those areas, attracted by cheap property, good transport and places like the Bass Clef & Fridge.

Our former landlady was one of the relative latecomers - illustrator by trade, bought a large 1 bed for less than 100k in about 98, the sold for 360ish this year. She was happy in a dismayed way about the rise, knowing it was madness.

 

[TruXta]

This thing is a cycle right - the rise and fall of a place's fortunes. So when was Brixton last a predominantly middle-class area? Anyone know? Gramsci ?

 

[SarfLondoner]

Their house champagne will be £7.50 by the glass

Is that for a half or a pint?

 

[peterkro]

This thing is a cycle right - the rise and fall of a place's fortunes. So when was Brixton last a predominantly middle-class area? Anyone know? Gramsci ?

Up until the beginning of the fifties.

 

[TruXta]

Up until the beginning of the fifties.

Cheers. What happened then? Windrush?

 

[peterkro]

Cheers. What happened then? Windrush?

Yesish.

 

[TruXta]

Yesish.

yeah no, figured it had to be linked to wider stuff and changes to the city - basically much of London was in a bit of a decline up until the late 80s wasn't it, demographically speaking at least?

 

[peterkro]

yeah no, figured it had to be linked to wider stuff and changes to the city - basically much of London was in a bit of a decline up until the late 80s wasn't it, demographically speaking at least?

Yeah it was obviously more complicated than that,the flight to the suburbs by the middle classes not a small factor.

 

[boohoo]

Damned right. I'm a literal stones throw from a BR postcode #shudders

I'm a stone throw from a CR postcode! Fingers crossed that our land lady won't want to put up the rent in June.

 

[TruXta]

Yeah it was obviously more complicated than that,the flight to the suburbs by the middle classes not a small factor.

Wasn't the flight of the mc's a bit of a myth? Or was it really like this VVV

 

[TruXta]

I'm a stone throw from a CR postcode! Fingers crossed that our land lady won't want to put up the rent in June.

Is CR dearer or cheaper than your current?

 

[Belushi]

yeah no, figured it had to be linked to wider stuff and changes to the city - basically much of London was in a bit of a decline up until the late 80s wasn't it, demographically speaking at least?

My Mums family mostly moved out to the new towns in the 60's and 70's. Nice new houses with green space, central heating, fitted carpets, fitted kitchens, bathrooms; it was a dream come true. The next generation and half of us couldn't wait to come back

 

[alfajobrob]

And why wouldn't they? It's on the first page if you do a google search for GF + Brixton.

Not gentrifying the area at all then.