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Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

I have been visiting wood green frequently of late and hardly think it can be compared with Brixton. The day Brixton gets a Vue cinema complex will be the day I leave, not a sign of gentrification but of suburban homogenisation - awful!!
That was kind of my point. But it's on the tube and there are lots of streets with nice houses on them. So Brixton is perhaps something more than just nice houses and good transport links...
 
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Cheese counter looks promising.
"Brie, Roquefort, Pol le Veq, Port Salut, Savoy Aire, Saint Paulin, Carrier de lest, Bres Bleu, Bruson?"
 
That was kind of my point. But it's on the tube and there are lots of streets with nice houses on them. So Brixton is perhaps something more than just nice houses and good transport links...
It IS twice as far out as Brixton. And there's not that much else around it either.
 
The prosaic answer. :mad:

A lot of truth to that. Lots of nice houses and a tube station. Same is true of Wood Green, though, and it hasn't gone through the roof like Brixton. The extent to which Brixton has changed has to do with a little more than that, no?

Are you sure it hasn't? It was more expensive than Brixton anyway, I seem to recall.
 
I don't know Wood Green very well but rightmove shows plenty of houses at £600k plus. While that might be a little cheaper than Brixton that's still a lot of wealth in the area - maybe in a year or two that pent up demand will start to see more upmarket shops and bars opening and start the more visible cycle going. So the opposite of the view that it's the bars etc that drive the house prices.
 
It IS twice as far out as Brixton. And there's not that much else around it either.
Yeah you can cycle from brixton to central in about 20 mins right? You cd walk if you had to. Wood green is quite a different thing to that, you are really separated from the centre
 
Are you sure it hasn't? It was more expensive than Brixton anyway, I seem to recall.
I don't know, tbh.:oops: I kind of assumed it was cheaper! We need Hollis here. If you're right, then sleaterkinney is really totally right - Brixton's gentrification is just because of the big houses there and the tube.
 
Yeah you can cycle from brixton to central in about 20 mins right? You cd walk if you had to. Wood green is quite a different thing to that, you are really separated from the centre
I've walked from Brixton to central London. It takes well over an hour.

I've also walked from central London to Clapton. That took nearly two hours. I'm guessing Wood Green would be similar.
 
Just catching up with this thread and I just want to take a moment to :D :D that a flippant joke I made about Buckfast and Dairylea made it in to this bollocks in the Stannah

Good work urban

ETA except on further reading perhaps that's not where it came from. As you were.


* outrageous situationist multimedia stunt idea appears in a flash of lightning*

I know! I've got it! Never mind the nouveau boho anarcho demonstrating - let's set a crack squad of OG SW9 crack squirrels on these incomers!

*rubs hands in anticipation*
 
Shouldn't the middle classes live in Brixton at all then? It's a good job you've moved as you were part of the problem. I am too. Or are we alright because we're liberal and post on U75?

Depends on what u mean by middle class. I have a friend who is a journalist. Would say she is middle class professional. She would not be able to afford Champagne at £9 a glass. It is not the sort of place she uses.

She owns a house in Walthamstow. She says that there is no way she could buy a house there now.

There are really well off people in London. And seems a lot of them. The middle class is a vague term.

I was in Fortnum & Mason recently picking up something and in front of me was a guy ordering £300 pounds of presents for someone. It beggars belief how wealthy some people are to fork out this kind of money.

I noticed as well the info on the customer desk was translated into Chinese. The latest Oligarchs who shop in London.
 
Depends on what u mean by middle class. I have a friend who is a journalist. Would say she is middle class professional. She would not be able to afford Champagne at £9 a glass. It is not the sort of place she uses.

She owns a house in Walthamstow. She says that there is no way she could buy a house there now.

There are really well off people in London. And seems a lot of them. The middle class is a vague term.

I was in Fortnum & Mason recently picking up something and in front of me was a guy ordering £300 pounds of presents for someone. It beggars belief how wealthy some people are to fork out this kind of money.

I noticed as well the info on the customer desk was translated into Chinese. The latest Oligarchs who shop in London.

Of course the term middle class covers a wide range of people. I'd say a lot of the people moving in to Brixton are middle class but don't necessarily have lots of disposible income, like your friend. They're probably paying extortionate rents with not that much left over. The average age for buying a property now is 35.
 
Of course the term middle class covers a wide range of people. I'd say a lot of the people moving in to Brixton are middle class but don't necessarily have lots of disposible income, like your friend. They're probably paying extortionate rents with not that much left over. The average age for buying a property now is 35.
There's something of a divide in the UK, and definitely London, now between those who got sorted for housing before the boom (either by buying or by getting social housing when it was still possible to get it) and those who did not. We're in a very fucked situation now - if you didn't get yourself sorted then, there are only bad options available to you - stretch yourself for a mortgage in a place you don't even really want to live, or pay over the odds for a private, insecure place that you might be booted out of with two months' notice.
 
I've been having this discussion since I joined U75, 10 years ago maybe!
I hope I didnt plagiarise! Further to that tho you know who is responsible for hackney and bow gentrifying? DIZZEE RASCAL. Soon as you put a place in a pop song it is the beginning of the end.
 
I hope I didnt plagiarise! Further to that tho you know who is responsible for hackney and bow gentrifying? DIZZEE RASCAL. Soon as you put a place in a pop song it is the beginning of the end.
I lived in Stoke Newington in the mid-90s and it was already gentrifying then...
 
There's something of a divide in the UK, and definitely London, now between those who got sorted for housing before the boom (either by buying or by getting social housing when it was still possible to get it) and those who did not. We're in a very fucked situation now - if you didn't get yourself sorted then, there are only bad options available to you - stretch yourself for a mortgage in a place you don't even really want to live, or pay over the odds for a private, insecure place that you might be booted out of with two months' notice.

Agreed. Although obviously it also depends how old you are.
 
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