Champagne & Fromage opening in Brixton soon

[Ms T]

According to their Facebook page they are relaunching as Woowoo Boutique and by coincidence the opening party is tonight.

That's good. One of the ladies who ran Saloon is very nice.

 

[Winot]

I disagree, I had one of the worst bottles of red I've ever had from there.

Sorry to hear that. Was it corked or just not good? What was it?

 

[Ms T]

Bah, bollock. This in particular was bollocks


Why not criticise all of those AS WELL AS YM's and the likes of C&F?

Shouldn't the middle classes live in Brixton at all then? It's a good job you've moved as you were part of the problem. I am too. Or are we alright because we're liberal and post on U75?

 

[TruXta]

Shouldn't the middle classes live in Brixton at all then? It's a good job you've moved as you were part of the problem. I am too. Or are we alright because we're liberal and post on U75?

No, we're also part of the problem. As for middle-classes living in Brixton - depends what that means for people lower down the SES scale I'd say.

 

[Ms T]

No, we're also part of the problem. As for middle-classes living in Brixton - depends what that means for people lower down the SES scale I'd say.

It's about the balance, innit.

 

[TruXta]

It's about the balance, innit.

What should the balance be? Ideally new people moving in shouldn't displace existing residents, but it does. And with the current political/economical setup there's no way to rectify that.

 

[Winot]

Bah, bollock.

Can't argue with this bit:

What should worry us most about gentrification isn’t one posh bar — it’s the way the poor are being pushed out of places like Brixton. There’s an obvious solution to that: a large council-house-building programme. So don’t chuck that brick through the window — let’s use it to build.

 

[TruXta]

Can't argue with this bit:

True, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about businesses like C&F, AS WELL AS Tescos, payday loan shops, betting parlours etc etc.

 

[Ms T]

What should the balance be? Ideally new people moving in shouldn't displace existing residents, but it does. And with the current political/economical setup there's no way to rectify that.

Inevitably it does, because housing is in limited supply, but that doesn't necessarily mean they've been forced out. People move for all sorts of reasons, not just economic ones.

 

[Ms T]

True, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about businesses like C&F, AS WELL AS Tescos, payday loan shops, betting parlours etc etc.

But noone actually protests when the payday loans companies and porn shops move in, do they?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Sorry to hear that. Was it corked or just not good? What was it?

It wasn't corked, just very watery. It was a red bordeux.

 

[T & P]

Comment in today's ES.

Not that it wasn't flying nicely already, but the thread by the end of the day...

 

[Winot]

Comment in today's ES.

She's been reading your posts about Dairylea!

 

[Rushy]

She's been reading your posts about Dairylea!

I did wonder!

 

[TruXta]

Inevitably it does, because housing is in limited supply, but that doesn't necessarily mean they've been forced out. People move for all sorts of reasons, not just economic ones.

Longer term trends easily finger economic reasons as the main culprit.

 

[TruXta]

But noone actually protests when the payday loans companies and porn shops move in, do they?

Sadly not very often, no.

 

[editor]

Who owns Dairylea sure seems like a whale sized red-herring given the more pressing issues of gentrification and social displacement.

"So don’t chuck that brick through the window — let’s use it to build."

"Us" eh?

 

[editor]

But noone actually protests when the payday loans companies and porn shops move in, do they?

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that given the fact that it's almost exclusively the poor who desperately need those payday shops.

I'm not sure the battleground is the shops anyway - the real battle should be against the government policies and the lack of regulation that let those bastards thrive and continue to profit from the poverty created by the hideous - and growing - inequalities in our society.

Have any porn shops have open up around here, btw?

 

[ska invita]

I think the Evening Standard is to blame for all gentrification, with their incessant articles about how hip once poor areas of London are and endless property porn articles





*waves at evening standard journos!

 

[tarannau]

Meanwhile, Champagne and Fromage is getting fitted out at remarkable pace. Almost there by the look of it - there was a man with cravat directing proceedings today.

That, sadly, was not a joke.

 

[leanderman]

C+F, because it is so ridiculous, is a ridiculously easy target.

But as Gabi has pointed out, if protest is the thing, Salon, Canon, Market Row Wines and the new wine bar could just as easily be targeted.

And, again, it seems ok for the Albert to sell champagne but not anyone else.

 

[editor]

And, again, it seems ok for the Albert to sell champagne but not anyone else.

Has anyone, anywhere, actually argued anything even remotely like that?

 

[mxh]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that given the fact that it's almost exclusively the poor who desperately need those payday shops.

I'm not sure the battleground is the shops anyway - the real battle should be against the government policies and the lack of regulation that let those bastards thrive and continue to profit from the poverty created by the hideous - and growing - inequalities in our society.

Have any porn shops have open up around here, btw?

Pawn Shops maybe

 

[editor]

Pawn Shops maybe

Prawn sandwich bars soon too, I expect.

 

[alfajobrob]

Have any porn shops have open up around here, btw?

Not enough AFAIC....even the newsagents don't sell it anymore

 

[mxh]

C+F, because it is so ridiculous, is a ridiculously easy target.

But as Gabi has pointed out, if protest is the thing, Salon, Canon, Market Row Wines and the new wine bar could just as easily be targeted.

And, again, it seems ok for the Albert to sell champagne but not anyone else.

I would much rather protest about kfc or mcD or even Roosters. No one will be rich enough to get heart disease from Champagne and Fromage

 

[Ms T]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about that given the fact that it's almost exclusively the poor who desperately need those payday shops.

I'm not sure the battleground is the shops anyway - the real battle should be against the government policies and the lack of regulation that let those bastards thrive and continue to profit from the poverty created by the hideous - and growing - inequalities in our society.

Have any porn shops have open up around here, btw?

I meant pawn! The payday loan shops are obviously serving a need or they wouldn't be there, but they are hugely exploitative. Ditto betting shops.

I agree that the real battle is against the government - but why then target an independent shop?

 

[Badgers]

Prawn sandwich bars soon too, I expect.

The Albert does prawns. Torpedo ones. Pretty popular as a light side or starter as it goes.

 

[Ms T]

C+F, because it is so ridiculous, is a ridiculously easy target.

But as Gabi has pointed out, if protest is the thing, Salon, Canon, Market Row Wines and the new wine bar could just as easily be targeted.

And, again, it seems ok for the Albert to sell champagne but not anyone else.

That would be the zero hours contracts, minimum wage Albert.

 

[TruXta]

I did wonder about that porn shop comment