British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'

[LDC]

if she does get back to this sceptered isle, there is no chance she will be moving on elsewhere like ever.

No, I think she'll be like loads of the others that have returned, plenty of them kicking about the UK freely. Or freely-ish. Maybe after some short sentence or de-radicalisation program, or probably a bit of both.

 

[not-bono-ever]

why?

would you ?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Looks like the government is being ordered to find a way to bring her back;

“The judgement means the government must now find a way to allow the 20-year-old to appear in court in London despite repeatedly saying it would not assist removing her from Syria.”

 

[not-bono-ever]

No, I think she'll be like loads of the others that have returned, plenty of them kicking about the UK freely. Or freely-ish. Maybe after some short sentence or de-radicalisation program, or probably a bit of both.

looking at it from the UKG POV, they dont want her to set foot in the country again, as they dont want the public headache of trying to move her onto say Bangladesh once she is back.

 

[YouSir]

looking at it from the UKG POV, they dont want her to set foot in the country again, as they dont want the public headache of trying to move her onto say Bangladesh once she is back.

Isn't she coming back to appeal the loss of citizenship? If that fails I don't see why they won't throw her out next day. You talk about the public headache but various governments have been ruthlessly deporting completely innocent people back to bad situations for years. Doubt a few headlines will alter that.

 

[not-bono-ever]

SEND HER TO THE HAGUE FOR TRIAL!!!11ELEVEN!!!

 

[cyril_smear]

would you ?

Would I fuck! And I wasn't being facetious when I asked.

Even if she loses her case I can't imagine Bangladesh would want to take her. I wonder would she be charged and sentenced as a youth? I don't know how it works. The offence has being ongoing but surely we can't prosecute her for things she has done in another country?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Isn't she coming back to appeal the loss of citizenship? If that fails I don't see why they won't throw her out next day. You talk about the public headache but various governments have been ruthlessly deporting completely innocent people back to bad situations for years. Doubt a few headlines will alter that.

Bangladesh has stated they will hang any IS who arrive there, so the UK won’t be able to send her to Dhaka...

 

[cyril_smear]

Isn't she coming back to appeal the loss of citizenship? If that fails I don't see why they won't throw her out next day. You talk about the public headache but various governments have been ruthlessly deporting completely innocent people back to bad situations for years. Doubt a few headlines will alter that.

Throw her out to where? Is Bangladesh obliged to take her in?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Bangladesh has stated they will hang any IS who arrive there, so the UK won’t be able to send her to Dhaka...

yup. if she sets foot here, shes going to use every means possible to stay.

 

[LDC]

I'd bet anyone £50 (to the server fund) she'll win her case and stay here.

 

[YouSir]

Bangladesh has stated they will hang any IS who arrive there, so the UK won’t be able to send her to Dhaka...

Fair enough, didn't know that.

 

[Ax^]

hope she does just annoy sun readers

 

[Petcha]

Given that we’re all conducting meetings via zoom that would otherwise have been face to face, why can’t that happen here?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Would I fuck! And I wasn't being facetious when I asked.

Even if she loses her case I can't imagine Bangladesh would want to take her. I wonder would she be charged and sentenced as a youth? I don't know how it works. The offence has being ongoing but surely we can't prosecute her for things she has done in another country?

terrorism and shit yeah they can but it wouldnt be straightforward with this one. UKG dont want to go down that rabbit hole as it could drag on for years, hence trying to just keep her as far away as possible

 

[Shechemite]

Given that we’re all conducting meetings via zoom that would otherwise have been face to face, why can’t that happen here?

Risks of zoom bombing

 

[cyril_smear]

terrorism and shit yeah they can but it wouldnt be straightforward with this one. UKG dont want to go down that rabbit hole as it could drag on for years, hence trying to just keep her as far away as possible

She's not a terrorist though is she? Surely the offence of lending support to a terror group(or whatever it's called) ends when she left this country? Again, dunno enough about it. Are peoples actions whilst abroad taken into account during sentencing?

 

[Raheem]

I'd bet anyone £50 (to the server fund) she'll win her case and stay here.

She'll win her case, but that's a risky accumulator you're offering.

 

[not-bono-ever]

She's not a terrorist though is she? Surely the offence of lending support to a terror group(or whatever it's called) ends when she left this country? Again, dunno enough about it. Are peoples actions whilst abroad taken into account during sentencing?

there is some stuff about de facto threats by committing or joining a ropey cause overseas- it is designed to fill the gaps where non combatants join IS or whatever.it wouldnt be a straightforward case for the UKG i think

 

[cupid_stunt]

I wouldn't be surprised if the government appeals this, and take it to the Supreme Court.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Bugger. Gazumped by CS.

 

[not-bono-ever]

i know that the UKG raised the idea of using a diplomatic outpost as a location for a hearing as a flailing attempt to circumvate the UK court process but were immediately slapped down by their legal lot. blue sky thinking

eta, it could be a runner if the coumtry/ region granted the mission footprint temporary extraterrotorial status for the this specific purpose but its not feasibly ngoing to happen

 

[Spymaster]

She's not a terrorist though is she? Surely the offence of lending support to a terror group(or whatever it's called) ends when she left this country? Again, dunno enough about it. Are peoples actions whilst abroad taken into account during sentencing?

Unfortunately she's not coming back to face charges of giving 5 years of support to genocide. rape, torture, and murder. The slug is coming back for a hearing on whether it's citizenship should be restored.

 

[Pickman's model]

Unfortunately she's not coming back to face charges of giving 5 years of support to genocide. rape, torture, and murder. The slug is coming back for a hearing on whether it's citizenship should be restored.

its. or more properly her.

 

[Spymaster]

its. or more properly her.

I meant what I posted.

 

[cyril_smear]

Unfortunately she's not coming back to face charges of giving 5 years of support to genocide. rape, torture, and murder. The slug is coming back for a hearing on whether it's citizenship should be restored.

I would imagine she would be arrested as soon as she steps foot off the plane.

 

[kebabking]

See, this is why the French are to be admired - they just paid the Iraqis to string up all their unwanteds, and now the problem has gone away...

 

[Spymaster]

I would imagine she would be arrested as soon as she steps foot off the plane.

Fingers crossed. More likely she'll be granted some kind of temporary leave to remain and held in an immigration facility.

 

[equationgirl]

Well she's won the right to return to the UK so I guess we'll need to wait and see what happens when she does.

 

[tim]

Excellent news!