Brexit party on 31 January in London is going ahead. And it will be shit.

[RTWL]

There is something quite annoying about some n00b barrelling in, and naïvely calling out long-standing members of this established community in the way you are doing.

Stop being annoying.

Yer ... well you lot annoy me too . This is an open forum right ? So fuck off with your misguided tribalism... this bord is good yes... but dont let that go to your head. It`s establisment can still be questioned .... that`s unless your going for totall Tyranny, in which case... ban me.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Yer ... well you lot annoy me too . This is an open forum right ? So fuck off with your misguided tribalism... this bord is good yes... but dont let that go to your head. It`s establisment can still be questioned .... that`s unless your going for totall Tyranny, in which case... ban me.

Wind... your... neck... in... sunshine...

Anyway what's wrong with totall Tyranny?

 

[RTWL]

It hurts free exchange and debate and corrupts the souls of those who hold it.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Anyway what's wrong with totall Tyranny?

The criminally underrated straight-to-video sequel to Total Recall?

 

[SpineyNorman]

The criminally underrated straight-to-video sequel to Total Recall?

I thought they were a post punk band, decent first album but went all shit and self indulgent with the second.

 

[rekil]

Teetotal Tyranny: This Time He's Sober

 

[SpineyNorman]

It hurts free exchange and debate and corrupts the souls of those who hold it.

You can get a cream for it now though.

 

[RTWL]

Heroin cream

 

[The39thStep]

The problem you have posting this is that leavers will skim the details and they will ignore the bits they don't like.

Yup only leavers do this and only on posts about Brexit on these boards

 

[rekil]

Total Tyranny IV - Absolut Tyranny: Back To The Bottle

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Anyone know what the yellow and black flag with the red circle represents that was waving at the Brexit rally? I haven’t seen it before.

 

[butchersapron]

Oh god it's that banned drug raver did everything old crusty zaphod isn't it?

 

[RTWL]

Who? ... shit ok busted

*gets coat

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yesterday, if I collapsed in the airport I’d have the full German healthcare system looking after me, just because I have a piece of plastic in my wallet.

So you're transiting on your way back from, say Thailand and you collapse at Frankfurt Airport? Your travel insurance that you had for Thailand would cover you in Germany.

We don’t know what the future will look like, but I’ve moved to non EU countries before and it requires visas, permissions, financial declarations, proof you can maintain your family, qualifying periods, employment restrictions, regulations about what you can do or not do when you’re there and what equipment you can take with you, how many days you can spend where....and I am still filing tax returns for somewhere I haven’t lived for 15 years, and get shit from border security every time I go back.

Hey, it may be fine. Almost certainly will be for people like me, even though I just lost my job for the second time for tedious brexity reasons. Doesn’t mean I have to like it, or the uncertainty it brings. And at a really fundamental level I liked being part of something bigger than this.... island. And nationalism and the sort of rhetoric we’ve seen for c the last 4 years makes my skin itch. (And anything that makes someone like Widdicombe happy makes me nervous)

No, we don't know what it will look like, but the best guess is 'not much different to day'. We have never needed visas to visit France or Spain. Working in either was never a massive issue either, even once we had EU freedom of movement you still had to register in the country, make tax payment arrangements etc. There will most likely be a bit more admin to attend to, but it won't be insurmountable by any means.

incidentally, the rules on refugee passports changed without warning or communication on 18th January. A number of refugee friends found themselves unable to travel- it took me hours to find the documentation that had affected them, the Home Office didn’t give a shit. A Sudanese friend had his paperwork torn up in front of him, causing him no end of distress given what he’s been through. That sort of arbitrary cruelty to ‘others’ will, I fear, become more frequent now.

That's nasty, but that was done by an EU member state, so not sure what the relevance is here?

 

[keybored]

Oh god it's that banned drug raver did everything old crusty zaphod isn't it?

Ralph
The
Wearisome
Llama

 

[existentialist]

Yer ... well you lot annoy me too . This is an open forum right ? So fuck off with your misguided tribalism... this bord is good yes... but dont let that go to your head. It`s establisment can still be questioned .... that`s unless your going for totall Tyranny, in which case... ban me.

 

[Manter]

So you're transiting on your way back from, say Thailand and you collapse at Frankfurt Airport? Your travel insurance that you had for Thailand would cover you in Germany.




No, we don't know what it will look like, but the best guess is 'not much different to day'. We have never needed visas to visit France or Spain. Working in either was never a massive issue either, even once we had EU freedom of movement you still had to register in the country, make tax payment arrangements etc. There will most likely be a bit more admin to attend to, but it won't be insurmountable by any means.



That's nasty, but that was done by an EU member state, so not sure what the relevance is here?

I suspect my life- spending half of it out of the UK- is going to feel quite different. Brexiteers telling me it won’t does rather make me wonder what the point of all the cost, division and so on is

The relevance is that the UK government is now unchecked. A far right government with a huge majority who answers to nobody: the vulnerable will get it in the neck first.

 

[Marty1]

...the vulnerable will get it in the neck first.

According to Sky News (AU), UK is heading for economic boom.

 

[teqniq]

Lol.

 

[Manter]

According to Sky News (Aus), UK is heading for economic boom.

Bless

 

[Marty1]

Bless

Ok then, let’s go with the prophets of doom and gloom and start preparing for an economic nuclear winter.

 

[JimW]

Feels to me that hiding behind the skirts of the EU was never the right way to address the resurgence in right-wing populism, quite the reverse in fact. For better or worse in brings the political battle closer to home where it always should have been.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ralph
The
Wearisome
Llama

Ralph the wanky loser

 

[Pickman's model]

Ok then, let’s go with the prophets of doom and gloom and start preparing for an economic nuclear winter.

The prophets of doom and gloom who released the album start preparing for an economic nuclear winter? Who then all topped themselves?

 

[SpineyNorman]

Ok then, let’s go with the prophets of doom and gloom and start preparing for an economic nuclear winter.

Yes, those are the two choices. Breathless optimism or depressive pessimism. Best just choose to believe whatever the right wing media tell us I guess.

All hail the new dawn of endless prosperity triggered by nothing really changing at all.

 

[Marty1]

Yes, those are the two choices. Breathless optimism or depressive pessimism. Best just choose to believe whatever the right wing media tell us I guess.

All hail the new dawn of endless prosperity triggered by nothing really changing at all.

Yeah, well - Boris had better deliver the goods economically, especially now he’s taken virtually all of Labours wc voters. No pressure then.

 

[SpineyNorman]

he’s taken virtually all of Labours wc voters.

This is just drivel. You're an idiot.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Feels to me that hiding behind the skirts of the EU was never the right way to address the resurgence in right-wing populism, quite the reverse in fact. For better or worse in brings the political battle closer to home where it always should have been.

I've no idea what you mean by 'hiding behind the skirts of the EU'. But feels to me right now that giving r/w populism a massive political victory in the shape of Johnson's election win and the subsequent tory-led brexit is pretty much the worst way to address the resurgence in r/w populism. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer defeating r/w populism over losing to it as a strategy.

 

[redsquirrel]

Feels to me that hiding behind the skirts of the EU was never the right way to address the resurgence in right-wing populism, quite the reverse in fact. For better or worse in brings the political battle closer to home where it always should have been.

If that's true Jim why do none of the EU countries have right-wing populist parties gaining votes? Eh?

 

[Proper Tidy]

We need govt kept in check by [checks notes] another bigger govt but with an unelected executive