Brexit party on 31 January in London is going ahead. And it will be shit.

[Gramsci]

Thanks but thats quite a shift from the idea that there are millions who dont know whats going to happen to them.

My partner is Spanish. Ive worked with and have friends who are Polish/ Romanian / Italian/ Portuguese.

I asked my partner tonight how she feels. "Brexit is rubbish".

For those here from other EU countries who have worked and made lives here, contributed to this country and thought this country was an open tolerant place ,Brexit is a kick in the teeth.

The idea , as a British person, that Brexit is anything to celebrate is for me deeply offensive.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I've yet to encounter anyone actually celebrating this who isn't a cunt to some degree, ranging from "bit of a" to "massive".

 

[The39thStep]

My partner is Spanish. Ive worked with and have friends who are Polish/ Romanian / Italian/ Portuguese.

I asked my partner tonight how she feels. "Brexit is rubbish".

For those here from other EU countries who have worked and made lives here, contributed to this country and thought this country was an open tolerant place ,Brexit is a kick in the teeth.

The idea , as a British person, that Brexit is anything to celebrate is for me deeply offensive.

Funnily enough I live in Portugal and have met many Portuguese who agree that countries in the EU should elect governments that make laws and budgets for their own country rather than the EU .They also query why it took so long for the UK to enact the decision and think that referendum decisions should be respected no matter if they agree or don’t agree . Coming from a country that has its own residency rules and paperwork and having friends and families in the UK who have settled status or pre settled status or who are applying they don’t see it as a kick in the teeth but a process to go through . Sorry if that offends you .

 

[Ax^]

Ex Pat Spporting Brexit


Leaver bingo anyone



take a look at some of the windrush generation who have been deported after going thru the process

 

[scifisam]

That was me.

Oh fucking hell, doh. Sorry, redsquirrel. I've no idea how we ended up in the line of argument we went down but it looks like it was my fault.

Firstly because it adds context to the fall in value , of course uncertainty affects currencies and the uncertainty around the future of the EU's euro meant it was artificially high. Secondly I'm not claiming that the decision to leave and therefore the uncertainty of what happens next didnt affect the pound thirdly and finally I am saying that the falls in the value of the pound against the euro also occured before the referendum , under the recession when Labour were in office 2009 and where we are today of Brexit is probably around the mean since 2009 if you take out the one off Greek crisis.

Good thing there aren’t any of London’s ‘ Red Wall’ challenging the same group of fash that turn up for Brexit , SYL, Yellow Vests , and anything else that takes their fancy . Fash are Fash.

If you're not claiming that the fall in the pound wasn't affected by Brexit, there's no point in bringing up the other stuff. I said that the value of the pound was affected by Brexit, and you agree.

But now you're claiming we're back to 2009 levels, so actually that does look like you're claiming that the fall in the value of the pound doesn't matter. Make up your mind.

I've yet to encounter anyone actually celebrating this who isn't a cunt to some degree, ranging from "bit of a" to "massive".

Absolutely. Though the only Brexit supporters I know* are lexiters so aren't reacting in the ways those twats at Parliament Square are.

Ex Pat Spporting Brexit


Leaver bingo anyone

Ah. That explains a lot of the complacency.


*I think I do know others, relatives mostly, on Facebook, but unfollowed them ages ago, not for this precisely but because they were bigots in other ways and I'd rather choose when to see their vileness than have it pop up in between posts about cats.

 

[Gramsci]

Funnily enough I live in Portugal and have met many Portuguese who agree that countries in the EU should elect governments that make laws and budgets for their own country rather than the EU .They also query why it took so long for the UK to enact the decision and think that referendum decisions should be respected no matter if they agree or don’t agree . Coming from a country that has its own residency rules and paperwork and having friends and families in the UK who have settled status or pre settled status or who are applying they don’t see it as a kick in the teeth but a process to go through . Sorry if that offends you .

Im aware that you think that. Yes it does offend me. Don't lets mess about we don't agree.

Im fucking angry about Brexit and how its made my friends from other EU countries feel.

You seem to live in different place to me but what I hear is the opposite of what you say. And Im talkng from personal experience.

As I live in area with large Black British population they know from there own recent history of how freedom of movement can be curtailed. Ends up with Windrush scandal. Settled Status is no better than what Black British were promised when due to so called legitimate concerns about immigration free movement for Commonwealth people was ended.

And talking to my Black British friends there parents thought they woud be welcome in the Mother Country. They were dissapointed to say the least.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Ex Pat Spporting Brexit


Leaver bingo anyone

It suddenly becomes clear doesn't it.

"Good for Britain says guy whose not had to deal with this shit"

 

[Proper Tidy]

I mean UK ex pats in EU countries are the most affected aren't they

 

[ska invita]

One Dominic Frisby is singing right now. jesus

"Maybe Donald Trump is not all bad" is the chorus something about " not liking Sadiq Khan" being one of Trumps plus points. Vibes

 

[ska invita]

Hah the Sun have had to cut away from Dominic he lasted 30 seconds

Now showing a brick wall basically instead

 

[Ax^]

I mean UK ex pats in EU countries are the most affected aren't they

depends on the amount of money you have

 

[Proper Tidy]

depends on the amount of money you have

Yeah fair point. Same for everything that

 

[bimble]

As I live in area with large Black British population they know from there own recent history of how freedom of movement can be curtailed. Ends up with Windrush scandal. ..

I'm totally with you (and your lovely partner) on brexit Gramsci but just to say - one of the playworkers at the adventure playground we both know, 2nd generation of Jamaican heritage -i said something brexit-related to him and he totally put me back in my box for assuming he'd see things the way i do, he was all for it, sovereignty etc.
Just can't presume with any accuracy who feels what way about this is all i'm saying. Has really stuck with me that conversation and have been very careful about even mentioning the B word to anyone since.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Christ

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Some sad ass shit going down here:

 

[Proper Tidy]

And yeah this assumption if people are black or have non-UK roots they are remainers by default is lazy and dangerous

 

[treelover]

bang on, shouldn't essentialise people

 

[Ax^]

And yeah this assumption if people are black or have non-UK roots they are remainers by default is lazy and dangerous

Some sad ass shit going down here:

Scans the crowd


but aye the country was split down the middle

 

[treelover]

Veterans project love letter to EU on White Cliffs of Dover

'I feel really depressed at the idea that we are leaving Europe because it has meant so much to me'

www.independent.co.uk

battle of dover is on

 

[Ax^]

Christ View attachment 197259

ah come on its not like they shoot british cizilians in north ireland and should get away with it

 

[Gramsci]

I'm totally with you (and your lovely partner) on brexit Gramsci but just to say - one of the playworkers at the adventure playground we both know, 2nd generation of Jamaican heritage -i said something brexit-related to him and he totally put me back in my box for assuming he'd see things the way i do, he was all for it, sovereignty etc.
Just can't presume with any accuracy who feels what way about this is all i'm saying. Has really stuck with me that conversation and have been very careful about even mentioning the B word to anyone since.

Well Coldharbour Ward , which is in the adventure playground area, was 80% Remain. At time of referendum it was in top 10% most deprived Wards in the Country. Has a large Afro Carribean population living on the estates.

Most Black British people I know were Remainers. One said to me , at the time, that the way UKIP etc were going on about Eastern Europeans and immigration reminded him of the way the people from the Windrush generation were talked about ( his parent came from Carribbean and he grew up in Brixton).

 

[Gramsci]

And yeah this assumption if people are black or have non-UK roots they are remainers by default is lazy and dangerous

Lazy? Its is the case in my local area.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Lazy? Its is the case in my local area.

What, every single person? Isn't the person bimble refers to in your local area?

 

[bimble]

I know the statistics. Was just saying don’t presume and generalise with such confidence, which I learnt from that conversation.

 

[bimble]

Some sad ass shit going down here:

the state of that.

 

[Gramsci]

What, every single person? Isn't the person bimble refers to in your local area?

Are you saying to me I dont know my local area?

Im not in the mood for this tonight. Ive posted up more than enough based on my personal experience of someonne doing a working class job in inner London.

You just dont want to accept it.

The vote in my local are against Brexit proves my point.

 

[Gramsci]

This Brexit shit has divided the country and the resentment will live on.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Are you saying to me I dont know my local area?

Im not in the mood for this tonight. Ive posted up more thn enough based on my personal experience of someonne doing a working class job in inner London.

You just dont want to accept it.

The vote in my local are against Brexit proves my point.

I'm saying, and I think it is very clear, that assuming people have a particular viewpoint on a political issue because they are black or foreign is really stupid. Nobody is disputing that taken as a whole a majority would have backed remain.

 

[Gramsci]

I know the statistics. Was just saying don’t presume and generalise with such confidence, which I learnt from that conversation.

And Ive had many of last years with locals in Brixton and inner London. Id say stats and what Ive heard personally coincide.

 

[Gramsci]

I'm saying, and I think it is very clear, that assuming people have a particular viewpoint on a political issue because they are black or foreign is really stupid. Nobody is disputing that taken as a whole a majority would have backed remain.

I didnt say that

I happen to live in area of inner London with a large Black population. So im basing what I say on personal experience not assumptions. Same with people who are "foreign".