ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Froome bagged the Criterium then.
Bicycle Racing Thread 2013
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twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Last year's Vuelta was pretty good racing that the Sky Train couldn't control. I think Le Tour could do with time bonuses in mountain stage finishes. I'd also limit ITTs to 10km or at least have a real fucker of an uphill ITT.
I fucking hate split stages
. I'd be happy with more well designed medium-mountain stages, and classic-style stages. Anything that is harder to control and less predictable. And fewer pan-flat sprinter stages.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I fucking hate split stages
Exactly: stages that will kill any team that tries to sit on the front and control the pace all day, whether they sprinter teams or mountain trains.
Yes, shit about Hesjedal. His one-two act with Dan Martin has been consistently entertaining all season.
Agreed. UCI experimenting with 8 rider teams at a few races this season. I would go max 7. Also, ditch the radios. If a few minor riders win races because cyclists can't count how many are in the breakaway then so be it.
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
Giro was a procession too, despite it starting out as one of the most hotly contested for years.
Yes to bigger time bonuses for mountain winners. Yes to shorter TTs and killing the TTT. Biggest yes to killing radios stone dead, the UCI hasn't had the courage of its convictions but this single move would stump a generation of tactically inept non risk taking riders who can't read a race (thats a lot of riders).
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Wasn't the Olympic RR, radio free? Sky/GB didn't like that
I guess some of the big sponsors like Garmin, Movistar, Radioshack and I suppose Sky who are involved in telecommunications/gps/electronicd lobby UCI HARD to have radios in the sport.
Plus their team was too small to single-handedly control the break all day.
I was amused by yesterday's stage at the Tour of Suisse. Every preview I read stressed the importance of the final corner 200m before the end, and Maggie Backstedt spent all day in the commentary booth talking about the importance of said corner and how the first one through was likely to win the stage. Then, come the final corner, the only one who seemed to have noticed any of this went on to win the stage.
I was amused by yesterday's stage at the Tour of Suisse. Every preview I read stressed the importance of the final corner 200m before the end, and Maggie Backstedt spent all day in the commentary booth talking about the importance of said corner and how the first one through was likely to win the stage. Then, come the final corner, the only one who seemed to have noticed any of this went on to win the stage.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Just goes to show he has the speed to mix it with the very best guys. On the rare occasion when he starts a sprint against them in a good position and times his kick right. If the guy had half a brain he'd be a real force.
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
Can't forgive Bos for his cuntish treatment of Darryl Impey.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/..._Bos_out_in_the_cold_after_Daryl_Impey_clash/
Keep trackies off the streets!
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/..._Bos_out_in_the_cold_after_Daryl_Impey_clash/
Keep trackies off the streets!
Careful now. If we did that, then who would me and Nige moan about?
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I was just about to say that's a slogan we can all get behind. A unifying idea on a fractious thread.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Lets uphold tradition and do one. Also, I'm in favour of flooding the forum with cycling threads.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Sometimes people like football and cycling.
Indeed they do. Not at the same time though. That just sounds a bit too much like bicycle polo.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Irish cycling vote to reject UCI pres Pat McQuaid's re-election.
Agree with getting rid of the radios too.
Agree with getting rid of the radios too.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/vayer-casts-doubt-over-performances-of-indurain-and-jalabert
Interesting stuff about average power outputs at the Tour.
Interesting stuff about average power outputs at the Tour.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
No mention of Wiggins' avg. output last year. Surely that's been calculated?
Isn't Vayer's method somewhat flawed? I seem to remember the Science of Sport blog taking his analysis apart, but might be misremembering. Also love that they pick the two of the most obvious dopers. Do you think they were sat in a meeting with lawyers and they were like, "yeah, you can name them two cos they were obviously just taking the piss".
Oh, and Jaja is a cunt. Did anyone see his comments to the French Senate anti-doping commission?
Not sure if it's the same thing, but the link Nige posted mentions Le Monde and Vayer, in which case this might be the same thing
http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/visuel_...puissants-depuis-trente-ans_3425582_3242.html
Wiggins seems to be borderline, but I would keep in mind the problems with the Vayer method.
Cos it's my day off, I've had a quick look search through the scienceofsport blog for the post about Vayer's methods.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-contador-vo2max.html
It's from 2009, so not sure if Vayer has updated/refined his methods but it all looks much the same as I understand them. Not that that means much. All that said, it seems to me that even if there are problems with using his calculations to identify a clean/doping rider they certainly look to be useful in identifying overall trends.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-contador-vo2max.html
It's from 2009, so not sure if Vayer has updated/refined his methods but it all looks much the same as I understand them. Not that that means much. All that said, it seems to me that even if there are problems with using his calculations to identify a clean/doping rider they certainly look to be useful in identifying overall trends.
