wayward bob
i ate all your bees
anyone tried it? 
bibliomancy
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Yes... there's a website (facade) which picks a random passage for you from sacred books (bibliomancy) or from other books (stichomancy). The results can vary wildly between spookily in accord with what you were wondering about and hilariously off track.
As with other types of divination, IMHO the tool you use far less important than the mind used to interpret what it perceives. I've even heard of people doing a modern equivalent of bibliomancy by fast forwarding though a video and stopping it at random.
As with other types of divination, IMHO the tool you use far less important than the mind used to interpret what it perceives. I've even heard of people doing a modern equivalent of bibliomancy by fast forwarding though a video and stopping it at random.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
there's a great Adrian Plass bit of fiction where someone does it and hits on the passage 'and the dogs licked up his blood'
from 1 Kings 22:38 NIV
They washed the chariot at a pool in Samaria (where the prostitutes bathed), and the dogs licked up his blood, as the word of the LORD had declared
from 1 Kings 22:38 NIV
They washed the chariot at a pool in Samaria (where the prostitutes bathed), and the dogs licked up his blood, as the word of the LORD had declared
wayward bob
i ate all your bees
fucking freakiest woo thing 
You want really freaky? I've even tried it with a 2nd hand copy of A C Grayling's "The Good Book: A Secular Bible".fucking freakiest woo thing
The results were no better or worse, thus proving that it really is more to do with the mind than with the book used. BTW please be aware that it can become quite addictive if you overdo it (ie asking several times in the same day).
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
Grace Johnson
i like dairylea dunkers
I do this with sacred texts a lot as a meditation exercise. But only when I am compelled too and I never ask a specific question.
Usually Buddhist texts or sadanas. The tao te ching and the udana work paticully well. I also Hindu texts and text books about PTSD (which I am trying to recover from).
The passages that come are 90% of the time incredibly accurate to what I have been experiencing over the previous few days. Often they are incredibly specific ie they can tell me with detail what I have been thinking and feeling, me dreams and often the symbology of the texts will relate very accurately to recent direct experience.
The other 10% of the time they give me something to think about and meditate on that I find very helpful.
I have been stunned by it to be honest. To me it ties into what Carl Jung says about synchronicity and also into a lot of things I have read about dreams and things like that. It has (as well as other things) convinced me to continue with meditation.
I don't think any form of divination can really work at answering specific questions but that it can give you a clearer picture of what is going on in your mind at that particular moment. That can appear to tell you the future I think or appear to tell you something mystical. But it is really just reading your mind at that moment.
And that would make total sense. Like your conscious mind is very limited 7 +/- 2 pieces of information I think at a given time. Your unconscious mind is doing million of operations a second, you flick through a book or a pack of cards and your unconscious mind picks the spot it wants you to read.
You just utilise your unconscious mind for a moment I think and it is massively powerful. It has been a great.mediation exercise for me. Didn't know what it was called until I read this thread. But yeah looks like it was bibliomancy. Awesome word too
Usually Buddhist texts or sadanas. The tao te ching and the udana work paticully well. I also Hindu texts and text books about PTSD (which I am trying to recover from).
The passages that come are 90% of the time incredibly accurate to what I have been experiencing over the previous few days. Often they are incredibly specific ie they can tell me with detail what I have been thinking and feeling, me dreams and often the symbology of the texts will relate very accurately to recent direct experience.
The other 10% of the time they give me something to think about and meditate on that I find very helpful.
I have been stunned by it to be honest. To me it ties into what Carl Jung says about synchronicity and also into a lot of things I have read about dreams and things like that. It has (as well as other things) convinced me to continue with meditation.
I don't think any form of divination can really work at answering specific questions but that it can give you a clearer picture of what is going on in your mind at that particular moment. That can appear to tell you the future I think or appear to tell you something mystical. But it is really just reading your mind at that moment.
And that would make total sense. Like your conscious mind is very limited 7 +/- 2 pieces of information I think at a given time. Your unconscious mind is doing million of operations a second, you flick through a book or a pack of cards and your unconscious mind picks the spot it wants you to read.
You just utilise your unconscious mind for a moment I think and it is massively powerful. It has been a great.mediation exercise for me. Didn't know what it was called until I read this thread. But yeah looks like it was bibliomancy. Awesome word too
wayward bob
i ate all your bees
we tried it with a gideons bible in the hotel we were staying last week. once. mr b's between contracts and was waiting on a phone interview int he afternoon that he was really nervous about (and that never materialised in the end). i'll have to check with him which exact passage it was, but he opened the page and put his finger down on the words "hired man"
instead of the interview he got a text saying he'd got the contract and he started the job today 
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
It's surprisingly effective.fucking freakiest woo thing
Provided you don't try to 'test' it by using a car manual or somesuch. Cos that's just taking the piss.....
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its technically divination and you will go to hell-ah
It's a lot of fun to go finding the random (or god-sent) thing when you play at doing it with the Christian Bible and the Koran and the Tao te Ching. Some of those books are a bit nasty and bloodthirsty. Lao Tzu ftw.
High protein, high fibre, low fat, low sugar, low salt, then.I asked for weightloss advice and got:
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It's complete bollocks really, isn't it?
It's in the eye of the beholder, so if you choose to see complete bollocks...It's complete bollocks really, isn't it?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I've also seen people do this by rolling a dice and changing the channel on a television the number of times the die said.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Much better company there, anyway.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
tunes as well. In heaven its all classical music and hymns
Only via various pals who felt compelled to consult Tai Ching (not certain of spelling here) about practically everything (should I wash my hair today) and mostly getting drivel such as a 'trip across the water'
And that astrology craze for which we rushed out to buy ephemeris charts. I did a roaring trade for a while in hand-coloured and written 'charts' - computers did for that though...although I rapidly monetised my nice handwriting by doing rowing photos for various boat crews (race titles, boat crew position and names etc.)
And that astrology craze for which we rushed out to buy ephemeris charts. I did a roaring trade for a while in hand-coloured and written 'charts' - computers did for that though...although I rapidly monetised my nice handwriting by doing rowing photos for various boat crews (race titles, boat crew position and names etc.)
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I ching? the one where you throw yarrow stalks then consult a book?
Yep, that's the one - getting mixed up with Tai Chi and I Ching. I seem to recall the most fanatic tossers had special Chinese coins.
Cid
Proper break this time
I asked for help on revision and got:
she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
LEV 18:16 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
LEV 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
LEV 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
LEV 18:19 Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.
she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
LEV 18:16 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness.
LEV 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
LEV 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
LEV 18:19 Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.
Cid
Proper break this time
Leviticus is coming it a bit hard (fnar etc) isn't it? I mean if anything I've been pretty good recently, and even in my darkest hours I don't wank over my brother's wife. Not that I have a brother, but I don't even wank to thoughts of my mate's wives, extending brother to its metaphorical use.
Something telling me to stop pissing about on urban would have been more appropriate.
Purdie
there are no stars, only suns
I went for the Hindu version on the website Greebo mentioned and got this:
Whom with good strength thou quikenest, with children and wealth-may we be they, Eternal Being.
16 Such, Agni, thou who knowest all good fortune, God, lengthen here the days of our existence. This prayer of ours may Varuna grant, and Mitra, and Aditi and Sindhu, Earth and Heaven. HYMN XCV. Agni
Can't make head nor tails from it but then maybe I'm not meant to
I prefer the magical world of radio. So often the tunes it plays perfectly match my thoughts, it gets kind of eerie.
Whom with good strength thou quikenest, with children and wealth-may we be they, Eternal Being.
16 Such, Agni, thou who knowest all good fortune, God, lengthen here the days of our existence. This prayer of ours may Varuna grant, and Mitra, and Aditi and Sindhu, Earth and Heaven. HYMN XCV. Agni
Can't make head nor tails from it but then maybe I'm not meant to
I prefer the magical world of radio. So often the tunes it plays perfectly match my thoughts, it gets kind of eerie.
