Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024

[singsongfun]

Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024

Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024

The blue versus green bubble debate may not be as bad.

www.theverge.com

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Good?

 

[singsongfun]

Good news for most people. Bad news for WhatsApp.

 

[ska invita]

Up The RCS
Never Surrender!!

 

[danny la rouge]

The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland?

 

[danny la rouge]

The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland?

My mate’s son goes to the RCS. He’s a very talented pianist. And actually anything he picks up. It’s sickening.

He’s rubbish at DIY, though. Lol. Zoomers.

 

[ska invita]

Revolutionary Communists of Slovenia

 

[editor]

Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024

Apple says iPhones will support RCS in 2024

The blue versus green bubble debate may not be as bad.

www.theverge.com

Not so great news for Apple and their shitty walled garden of profiteering. They only make moves that benefit general consumers when they've absolutely been forced to (see: USB-C).

 

[savoloysam]

Recurring Cunts (down) South.

 

[savoloysam]

Not so great news for Apple and their shitty walled garden of profiteering. They only make moves that benefit general consumers when they've absolutely been forced to (see: USB-C).

Yes. Hasn't this been an Android thing for a while now?

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Yes. Hasn't this been an Android thing for a while now?

Since 2020 although RCS had been around as a 'thing' for much longer.

 

[Silas Loom]

I just want the bastards to put WhatsApp on the iPad mini, so I can catch up on the last ten years of messages people might have been sending me.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

I just want the bastards to put WhatsApp on the iPad mini, so I can catch up on the last ten years of messages people might have been sending me.

I know. You still need to link to to a SIM/phone number, though. Otherwise you could have just used web.whatsapp.com innit

 

[Silas Loom]

I know. You still need to link to to a SIM/phone number, though. Otherwise you could have just used web.whatsapp.com innit

Yeah, I get that, but my iPad mini is quite happy to make and receive phone calls and texts on behalf of a crappy SE 2020 which languishes in a drawer, so there isn’t really any connectivity excuse.

 

[danny la rouge]

Well, I read it and I’ve still no idea.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It’s such a weird thing to see Americans obsess over the colour of text in their messages. I only use iMessage for three people the vast majority of messaging is in WhatsApp and Signal…

 

[xenon]

What is RCS?

 

[tommers]

What is RCS?

Apple are going to let users send text messages in a different format.

Rich Communication Services - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

LOL. Apple.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

What is RCS?

SMS+ basically.

It makes traditional texting act like a chat/messenger so, WhatsApp etc and uses data/WiFi to send the messages.
The messages are also encrypted unlike in SMS.

Main issue is whether your network wants to charge you for those messages if sent over mobile data, like with old style MMS messages. I think most in the UK aren't, but don't quote me on that.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

SMS+ basically.

It makes traditional texting act like a chat/messenger so, WhatsApp etc and uses data/WiFi to send the messages.
The messages are also encrypted unlike in SMS.

Main issue is whether your network wants to charge you for those messages if sent over mobile data, like with old style MMS messages. I think most in the UK aren't, but don't quote me on that.

This said, I still make some messages default to SMS because I know that isn't data reliant and the recipient is more likely to receive it if they haven't responded to or read a WhatsApp or Signal I've sent some time ago.

Until they turn SMS off completely of course.


Is this linked to the 2G going off for anyone know or are they on a completely separate part of the bandwidth of that spectrum?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

News that literally nobody cares about as they all use WhatsApp?

 

[Silas Loom]

This said, I still make some messages default to SMS because I know that isn't data reliant and the recipient is more likely to receive it if they haven't responded to our read a WhatsApp or Signal I've sent some time ago.

Until they turn SMS off completely of course.


Is this linked to the 2G going off for anyone know or are they on a completely separate part of the bandwidth of that spectrum?

It’s not a bandwidth thing, it’s about the 3GPP protocols. All the generations support SMS, because it does lots of useful machine to machine work outside of person to person messaging. It’s safe for the foreseeable future.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

It’s not a bandwidth thing, it’s about the GSM protocol. All the generations support SMS, because it does lots of useful work outside of person to person messaging.

So 2g, 5g doesn't matter as not linked to planned 2g switch off, because the protocol exists outside of the type of carrier signal?

 

[Silas Loom]

So 2g, 5g doesn't matter as not linked to planned 2g switch off, because the protocol exists outside of the type of carrier signal?

I ninja edited a bit but basically all the protocols (at least up to 5G) have been designed to support SMS.

 

[danny la rouge]

Apple are going to let users send text messages in a different format.

Rich Communication Services - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

LOL. Apple.

Do people know/care? I mean standard people, not techie people.

I use an iPhone but everyone is on WhatsApp or some other similar messaging app.

Nobody uses texts except my immediate family (partner and two daughters), and like the bank or the doctors’. And I know it’s technically Apple’s special blue bubble and not an “actual” text, but I don’t give a fuck. It’s still words arriving on my phone. In a grey bubble (the bubble’s only blue when I send and that’s not something I’m invested in at all).

 

[hegley]

News that literally nobody cares about as they all use WhatsApp?

Not in America though - WhatsApp market there much smaller than in UK.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Do people know/care? I mean standard people, not techie people.

I use an iPhone but everyone is on WhatsApp or some other similar messaging app.

Nobody uses texts except my immediate family (partner and two daughters), and like the bank or the doctors’. And I know it’s technically Apple’s special blue bubble and not an “actual” text, but I don’t give a fuck. It’s still words arriving on my phone. In a grey bubble (the bubble’s only blue when I send and that’s not something I’m invested in at all).

No and No, unless it costs them money I suppose.

I had some message from Vodafone aaages ago about which messaging app to use/not.

Most people use summat else though as you say. Too many apps competing for the same space.

What will happen to those using dumb or feature phones??

 

[Silas Loom]

Not in America though - WhatsApp market there much smaller than in UK.

But they use Facebook Messenger so the same lack of interest in protocol-native message platforms would apply.

 

[Chz]

I ninja edited a bit but basically all the protocols (at least up to 5G) have been designed to support SMS.

Most carriers don't even have voice on 5G, so that would be a pleasant surprise at least. It's the main reason I have 5G disabled on my phone for the time being. Even with a strong 5G signal, your 4G antenna needs to be on to get voice. And since I can't tell the difference in terms of data speed, 5G just eats battery for no reason. I realise they're eventually moving voice to 5G, but they're in no hurry about it.

 

[tommers]

Do people know/care? I mean standard people, not techie people.

Probably not and probably not. They might notice their texts are slightly different but who sends texts these days? My window cleaner and my bank, that's who. And I'm on Android anyway.

It will update imessage but like you say the vast majority of people are already using whatsapp anyway.