Apple new product rumours and general news

[beesonthewhatnow]

Not different, just done well for the first time.

Well, yeah, that being the difference

 

[Crispy]

Oh and a huge, incredibly expensive Retina monitor to go with the Mac Pro. More than 4K, so 4K content can be edited at native res, with UI around it.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Oh and a huge, incredibly expensive Retina monitor to go with the Mac Pro. More than 4K, so 4K content can be edited at native res, with UI around it.

Are such panels being made by anyone?

 

[Crispy]

Are such panels being made by anyone?

Nobody right now, but they've been done before (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors) and it's not like it's physically impossible. Maybe >4k is a bit of a stretch, but Apple have a long history of fancy monitors and I expect a new one to take advantage of the dual-link display capabilities of teh new Pro.

 

[editor]

NOTE: I don't think such a description fits a potential iPad Pro - the Transformer is already a pretty damn well executed product. The Surface would be too, if it sold and there were apps for it and Windows 8 didn't have schizophrenia.

The Surface Pro 2 is actually a whole load better than many people give it credit for. Every time I've had a go on the thing I've been surprisingly impressed.

The half-fat RT OS is a remarkably pointless idea though, even more so when you consider that Asus have now created a truly excellent £349 Transformer laptop/tablet hybrid that runs full Windows 8.

 

[editor]

Well, yeah, that being the difference

So what was the big leap forward when Apple finally decided to ignore Steve Jobs' wisdom and create a smaller tablet, just like the company's rivals had been producing for years?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

So what was the big leap forward when Apple finally decided to ignore Steve Jobs' wisdom and create a smaller tablet, just like the company's rivals had been producing for years?

I don't recall saying it was a leap forward.

 

[editor]

I don't recall saying it was a leap forward.

You've been dismissing any notion of a touchscreen having any value on a laptop so I'll be curious to note how that opinion changes when Apple produce one.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Oh and a huge, incredibly expensive Retina monitor to go with the Mac Pro. More than 4K, so 4K content can be edited at native res, with UI around it.

What's the minimum spec for running 4K video on a computer?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

You've been dismissing any notion of a touchscreen having any value on a laptop so I'll be curious to note how that opinion changes when Apple produce one.

If it's just sticking a touchscreen onto osx I won't give a shit. It would have to something different, something to convince me there was a point to it over what you can already do with their multitouch trackpads.

 

[Sunray]

I actually prefer the gestures on a large trackpad like those apple ones, over touching a screen. it's as natural in many ways and I don't have to lift my arm.

I've been tempted many times, and it still lingers, to see if an apple trackpad could augment the mouse. It's 65 quid, so an expensive experiment.

 

[skyscraper101]

There's been speculation that Apple might ditch the 11" macbook air line in favour of new ipads. I will be annoyed if they do this because I whole heartedly prefer the 11" Air to any single ipad device. Plus I'm not a big fan of iOS, and I don't like the thought of having to choose between an ipad and a more expensive/heavy macbook pro. The 11" Air is perfect for me.

 

[RedDragon]

I'm getting tired of having to choose between taking out my iPad or my MBP, if only there was a device that could be both with an Maverick/iOS app option...

 

[peterkro]

4K cinema display,that's a certainty.Apple TV maybe,they'll incorporate all the stuff the jailbreak community has done,if (and it's a big if) they can get agreements from the providers to stream all they could stream if it were legal.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

4K screen have to be coming...

 

[strung out]

There's been speculation that Apple might ditch the 11" macbook air line in favour of new ipads. I will be annoyed if they do this because I whole heartedly prefer the 11" Air to any single ipad device. Plus I'm not a big fan of iOS, and I don't like the thought of having to choose between an ipad and a more expensive/heavy macbook pro. The 11" Air is perfect for me.

Ditto, I hate hate hate iOS, but love my 11" MBA so would be very pissed off if they discontinued it in favour of the ipad.

 

[sim667]

but Apple have a long history of fancy monitors and I expect a new one to take advantage of the dual-link display capabilities of teh new Pro.

If you look at the specs of past apple monitors though, they've always been underspecced and overpriced, comparably to what else was on the market at the time.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ditto, I hate hate hate iOS, but love my 11" MBA so would be very pissed off if they discontinued it in favour of the ipad.

How about a machine that was running OSX as normal, take off the keyboard and it switches into an iOS tablet?

 

[sim667]

How about a machine that was running OSX as normal, take off the keyboard and it switches into an iOS tablet?

The storage would be too limited..... Until they can make a 500gb ipad, I would want a MBP.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The storage would be too limited..... Until they can make a 500gb ipad, I would want a MBP.

Well, my Air has 500 gig of solid state storage, can't see any reason why that would have to change.

 

[sim667]

Well, my Air has 500 gig of solid state storage, can't see any reason why that would have to change.

That must have been pricey!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

That must have been pricey!

Wasn't exactly cheap, no. But shows it's perfectly possible to fit decent amounts of storage into a small and lightweight form factor.

 

[sim667]

Wasn't exactly cheap, no. But shows it's perfectly possible to fit decent amounts of storage into a small and lightweight form factor.

At cost

Cost beyond me, I imagine.

 

[editor]

Wasn't exactly cheap, no. But shows it's perfectly possible to fit decent amounts of storage into a small and lightweight form factor.

How much did it cost, in total, including the laptop?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

How much did it cost, in total, including the laptop?

Enough

 

[Crispy]

At cost

Cost beyond me, I imagine.

For now. Remember how expensive the original Air was?

However, I don't think Apple would make an actual dual-OS hybrid machine like that. An iOS device with a hardware keyboard is not an outrageous idea, as it still essentially does everything it can do with or without the extra hardware. But your laptop suddenly downgrading yourself when you take the keyboard off isn't the sort of user experience that Apple likes to make.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

An iOS device with a hardware keyboard is not an outrageous idea... your laptop suddenly downgrading yourself when you take the keyboard off isn't the sort of user experience that Apple likes to make.

I'm still not 100% convinced they'd just add a keyboard to iOS. It's been designed front the start around touch and virtual keyboards.

And would it be "downgrading"? I'd view it more as optimising the device to the best input format for what you're doing.

 

[souljacker]

It goes against their business model as well doesn't it? Apple want us to have an iPhone, iPad and Macbook all at the same time. Preferably one of each for everyone in the house.

 

[editor]

Enough

Come on - no need to be coy! I'm genuinely interested in how much such a machine might cost now that you've mentioned it.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Come on - no need to be coy! I'm genuinely interested in how much such a machine might cost now that you've mentioned it.

Errr, it's a 13" Air, 8gig RAM, 512gig SSD and upgraded to an i7 processor. Think it cost something like £1600.

Worth every penny