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Anelka's quenelle

Current mood: Pissed off
A certain person - you know who you are - is asking me to clarify my actions!
(Passive aggressive message on a sunset)
 
'Press like if you think I'm not antisemitic'

Clarifying your actions onTwitter I fucking despair of this world.
 
He's still thinking writing 140 character posts on fucking twitter is a substitute for an apology and say donating money to antifascist prisoners etc for example.
 
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Maybe he should post that image on his Facebook wall and tag Jewish people on his list in it? Or perhaps he should send everyone a chain letter about how they will get good luck if they send it to 10 people but if they don't a ghost will kill their entire family and they will meet the man of their dreams and it will be fine because he's spreading good luck?
 
Maybe he'll post this to diuedonne's wall while he's in court? Once he's finished clarifying his actions in 140 character Twitter posts

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whats the kinda shit storm thats happening about this outside of this forum? i dont really do much internet besides this and dont have a twitter account etc? What im getting at, is this somethign that hes kinda being forced to be accountable about in some way or another??
 
xslavearcx said:
whats the kinda shit storm thats happening about this outside of this forum? i dont really do much internet besides this and dont have a twitter account etc? What im getting at, is this somethign that hes kinda being forced to be accountable about in some way or another??
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Well, he's "apologised" in as much as he says he won't do it again. As for the more substantive points (his friendship with a known anti-Semite; his refusal so far to distance himself from said friend; making a clear stand on standing against anti-semitism,whoever propagates it), answer has come there none.
 
FWIW i think there has been ample evidence to show on this thread that that gesture belongs to an anti-semitic signifying chain. and i think if one comes from the french speaking context, i think one would have to lead a very sheltered and naive existence to not know that there are anti-semetic connotations in that gesture...
 
xslavearcx said:
FWIW i think there has been ample evidence to show on this thread that that gesture belongs to an anti-semitic signifying chain. and i think if one comes from the french speaking context, i think one would have to lead a very sheltered and naive existence to not know that there are anti-semetic connotations in that gesture...
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agreed, but has it not also been demonstrated that for quite a period it also had a non anti semitic meaning as well. Do we know is it always used to convey an anti semitic message or sometimes still its original one ? I dont think that has been proven .

Not any defence of Anelka, hes been caught red handed as best buddies with a nasty anti semitic FN hanger on . Damned in my eyes . I just for the life of me cant see why hed be making anti semitic gestures against West Ham . I think it was a fuck you to the fans, and hes bollocksed if he admits to that.
 
xslavearcx said:
what would happen in terms of FA punishment if he admitted that it was just a fuck you to the fans?
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not sure, but if hed been caught for it on the feild of play itd most likely be a yellow card and mebbe a disciplinary afterwards . Admitting afterwards would most likely be a disciplinary board, probably fine and mebbe miss a game or 2 .
 
Casually Red said:
agreed, but has it not also been demonstrated that for quite a period it also had a non anti semitic meaning as well. Do we know is it always used to convey an anti semitic message or sometimes still its original one ? I dont think that has been proven .

Not any defence of Anelka, hes been caught red handed as best buddies with a nasty anti semitic FN hanger on . Damned in my eyes . I just for the life of me cant see why hed be making anti semitic gestures against West Ham . I think it was a fuck you to the fans, and hes bollocksed if he admits to that.
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Leaving out dolphins, I'd suggest it's human political use has always been anti semitic, chirst it's an inverted seig heil ffs, and that even when your man was flirting with the left, he was always anti semitic albeit he encodes it in anti zionism (like most anti semites these days). Infact it is the centrality of anti semitism to his politics that allows him to flit between left and right so easy.
 
xslavearcx said:
FWIW i think there has been ample evidence to show on this thread that that gesture belongs to an anti-semitic signifying chain. and i think if one comes from the french speaking context, i think one would have to lead a very sheltered and naive existence to not know that there are anti-semetic connotations in that gesture...
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Agreed, anyone who doesn't recognise this is either a mouth-breathing idiot stupider than a cabbage and/or a dodgy cunt who's unwilling to see the clearly anti-semitic nature of this gesture for some reason of their own.


revol68 said:
Leaving out dolphins, I'd suggest it's human political use has always been anti semitic, chirst it's an inverted seig heil ffs, and that even when your man was flirting with the left, he was always anti semitic albeit he encodes it in anti zionism (like most anti semites these days). Infact it is the centrality of anti semitism to his politics that allows him to flit between left and right so easy.
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Precisely.
 
DexterTCN said:
I'm not a french, black, muslim...I wouldn't presume to know what he meant :)

Do you know what he meant?
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I don't know why I'm bothering as you're clearly a brain dead piece of apologist shit but the ridiculousness of the post of amazing even for you.

In order to try and analyse anyones actions you must be the same nationality, religion and ethnicity as them. :rolleyes: What about the same sex, sexuality, age? What a revolting, fundamentally racist, argument.
 
frogwoman said:
'I'm very sorry you feel that way'
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He could have at least put a bit of effort into his non-apology. I mean, 12 years ago the new york times went to the trouble of some example templates he could easily have borrowed from:

" I wish to say how very sorry I am if you thought my gesture was anti-semetic. I am aware that such a meaning, if it had actually been intended, could possibly cause some emotional distress, and would not wish this on anybody even if -- as is the case here, of course -- it cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I ever said or would say such a thing. If I had, you could interpret this as my apology."
 
redsquirrel said:
I don't know why I'm bothering as you're clearly a brain dead piece of apologist shit but the ridiculousness of the post of amazing even for you.

In order to try and analyse anyones actions you must be the same nationality, religion and ethnicity as them. :rolleyes: What about the same sex, sexuality, age? What a revolting, fundamentally racist, argument.
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So you know what Anelka meant, then?
 
DexterTCN said:
I'm not a french, black, muslim...I wouldn't presume to know what he meant :)

Do you know what he meant?
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Poor post.

Whilst it's patenetly obvious that only Anelka himself can actually account for what thought, (or lack of), processes led to that gesture, it is, given his declared friendship, hardly credible to suggest that he was unaware of its significance.

Even if the intent was merely to (secretly?) offend the oppo fans, he was doing with an overtly anti-semitic gesture. His choice; there are many other established ways of expressing "fuck you" to the oppo.

Whilst I don't self identify as "french, black or muslim", I still feel able to express an opinion on this matter.
 
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