5 Cyclists dead in 1 week in London

[gentlegreen]

It's extremely dangerous and arrogant by drivers.

I routinely get cars nosing out into the bus lane on the way home - it's a yellow box junction too - but then the bus lane frequently has cars illegally parked in it - thus redefining the edge of the road I suppose.

I also routinely question such drivers loudly as to whether they understand the meaning of the yellow paint.

 

[gentlegreen]

More "Operation Safeway" irony...

 

[gentlegreen]

And a bus driver who hasn't got the message :-

 

[Winot]

They were standing at traffic lights: mostly, I was guessing, because that was where it was convenient to wave people over - and to chat with cyclists in the box.

The obvious accident blackspot on my route is the top of Brixton Rd at the Oval, where drivers commonly left hook without indicating. No police there any time I've been past though.

 

[laptop]

The obvious accident blackspot on my route is the top of Brixton Rd at the Oval, where drivers commonly left hook without indicating. No police there any time I've been past though.

Yes: I was reporting from the Stratford-City route.

Which does rather suggest this is a Being Seen To Do Something exercise.

 

[golightly]

What is it about Waterloo Station? I cylced past there recently and 3 blokes standing in the bus lane and then one decides to step back into my path as I was passing. Fortunately based on the fact they were standing there paying attention to the old firestation building then the fact they were in the middle of a bus lane I had slowed down in anticipation of further stupid behaviour.

Coming back the other direction that evening some idiot opened a minicab door in front of the cyclist just behind me - luckily enough they managed to avoid injury and we're just very shocked.

The crossing seems to be one of the worst for people crossing on a red without actually checking nothing is coming.

I often witness lemming-like behaviour on this stretch of road where one person crosses and others just follow without checking whether it's safe. I reckon that people are just so concerned about catching the 18:45 to Basingstoke they forget about the traffic.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

Mass 'Die In' on friday at the TFL headquarters.

 

[gentlegreen]

Taxi driver's Youtube channel - several 1 hour videos of junctions purporting to prove how bad cyclists are :-

http://www.youtube.com/user/tygaman2007/videos

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ra-footage-8969043.html?origin=internalSearch

Edited video the ES used :-

 

[Winot]

Quite a smart move from the taxi drivers.

 

[salem]

Absolute cunt move from the LTDA and reinforces my view that the majority of black cab drivers are bigoted twats. Totally insensitive time to do it. I doubt it's a coincidence this has be given to the papers as cyclist safety is a big news story off the back of several deaths. How many of those deaths were down to red light infringements?

I'm fucking delighted that technology is finally breaking their monopoly. Biggest group of wankers going.

 

[gentlegreen]

There are plenty of videos of red light jumping by black cabs.
Some of them going through as if they had a special dispensation.

 

[Pickman's model]

There are plenty of videos of red light jumping by black cabs.
Some of them going through as if they had a special dispensation.

how does this invalidate their evidence?

 

[Pickman's model]

Absolute cunt move from the LTDA and reinforces my view that the majority of black cab drivers are bigoted twats. Totally insensitive time to do it. I doubt it's a coincidence this has be given to the papers as cyclist safety is a big news story off the back of several deaths. How many of those deaths were down to red light infringements?

I'm fucking delighted that technology is finally breaking their monopoly. Biggest group of wankers going.

this seems to me the sound of someone who is embarrassed at the evidence produced by the taxi drivers. but perhaps you could enlarge on the way in which this shows 'the majority of taxi drivers' to be 'bigoted twats'? what do you mean by bigoted in this context? seems to me this reinforces my view that there are many - i hesitate to say a majority of - cyclists who regularly act at the least anti-socially.

you're showing yourself to be something of a cycling 'bigot' in your post. you think taxi drivers are bigger wankers than e.g. cops, bankers, mps, the super rich, paedophiles, bailiffs, energy companies etc etc?

 

[MrSki]

I nearly got taken out by a cyclist wearing a helmet cam jumping the lights.

If I had time to react & saw him coming I would have happily twatted him one & told him to post that on YouTube.

It is more annoying when someone who is obviously filming to catch others out can't be bothered to pay attention to the rules that apply to them.

 

[DrRingDing]

Taxi driver's Youtube channel - several 1 hour videos of junctions purporting to prove how bad cyclists are :-

http://www.youtube.com/user/tygaman2007/videos

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ra-footage-8969043.html?origin=internalSearch

Edited video the ES used :-

Note they used a junction where it's safe for cyclists to go through the red light Essex Road going onto Upper Street.

I reckon we should start recording the racist rantings of these fucknuts.

 

[Pickman's model]

Note they used a junction where it's safe for cyclists to go through the red light Essex Road going onto Upper Street.

I reckon we should start recording the racist rantings of these fucknuts.

safe for who?

 

[DrRingDing]

safe for who?

Everyone.

 

[DJWrongspeed]

I nearly got taken out by a cyclist wearing a helmet cam jumping the lights.

What a twat (I'm a cyclist myself)

Off to the Die In tonight, sounds like it might be big.

 

[nino_savatte]

Taxi driver's Youtube channel - several 1 hour videos of junctions purporting to prove how bad cyclists are :-

http://www.youtube.com/user/tygaman2007/videos

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ra-footage-8969043.html?origin=internalSearch

Edited video the ES used :-

So many motorists are fond of claiming that all cyclists jump reds but in the last few weeks, but I've frequently seen motorists jumping reds and/or trying to beat the light and failing to do so.

 

[nino_savatte]

Taxi driver's Youtube channel - several 1 hour videos of junctions purporting to prove how bad cyclists are :-

http://www.youtube.com/user/tygaman2007/videos

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...ra-footage-8969043.html?origin=internalSearch

Edited video the ES used :-

That van has encroached the ASB.

 

[nino_savatte]

It's extremely dangerous and arrogant by drivers.

Sense of entitlement, innit.

 

[MrSki]

So many motorists are fond of claiming that all cyclists jump reds but in the last few weeks, but I've frequently seen motorists jumping reds and/or trying to beat the light and failing to do so.

The point is that no-one should jump red lights. It is not a competition. The lights are there for a reason. Because others jump them does not make it right that you do.

 

[nino_savatte]

The point is that no-one should jump red lights. It is not a competition. The lights are there for a reason because others jump them does not make it right that you do.

I agree and if you think I'm defending cyclists who jump reds, you are very much mistaken.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Is there not an RLJing thread somewhere else on the boards? Could've sworn this one was about cyclists dying in RTAs.

 

[salem]

this seems to me the sound of someone who is embarrassed at the evidence produced by the taxi drivers. but perhaps you could enlarge on the way in which this shows 'the majority of taxi drivers' to be 'bigoted twats'? what do you mean by bigoted in this context? seems to me this reinforces my view that there are many - i hesitate to say a majority of - cyclists who regularly act at the least anti-socially.

you're showing yourself to be something of a cycling 'bigot' in your post. you think taxi drivers are bigger wankers than e.g. cops, bankers, mps, the super rich, paedophiles, bailiffs, energy companies etc etc?

Not embarrassed at all. I accept that just as pedestrians sometimes cross on a red, some cyclists sometimes run red lights. So long as it's done with care there doesn't have to be a problem. Even on their edited highlights embeded above I can see that most of the cyclists slowed down and were aware of their surroundings and were passing the signal when there were no pedestrians near the crossing or vehicles. It seems they've chosen traffic lights that cyclists are more likely to go through on a red to get a stat for their drivers to quote and whinge about.

Why do you think the LTDA have chosen to put this headline grabbing video up now?
According to police data what percentage of London cycling collisions are attributable to cyclists going through red lights?

And you're right the whole biggoted twats/biggest group of wankers stuff was just gut feeling rather then a properly worked out theory - happy to clarify it's just personal opinion rather then statement of fact.

Is there not an RLJing thread somewhere else on the boards? Could've sworn this one was about cyclists dying in RTAs.

You might be referring to this one - http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/cyclist-down.309692/ - which was about a serious accident and ended up as a bit of a bunfight of red light runners.

 

[Lo Siento.]

You might be referring to this one - http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/cyclist-down.309692/ - which was about a serious accident and ended up as a bit of a bunfight of red light runners.

There's actually a few threads dedicating to discussing cyclists' behaviour. But ironic that the first one you see is another one like this one - where someone has died, and people pile in to cricitise cyclists.

 

[gentlegreen]

Traffic lights are a bit of a pain for cyclists - painful on the legs if you don't dismount, twitchy drivers behind you - quite often on the phone .. and some of those junctions are pretty big for the average plodder to get through before the deluge behind them descends on them - even if the ASL didn't have a car in it.

I suspect I might not be so anal about traffic lights if I had to deal with more than one a day.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Traffic lights are a bit of a pain for cyclists - painful on the legs if you don't dismount, twitchy drivers behind you - quite often on the phone .. and some of those junctions are pretty big for the average plodder to get through before the deluge behind them descends on them - even if the ASL didn't have a car in it.

I suspect I might not be so anal about traffic lights if I had to deal with more than one a day.

And you could just as easily use the LDTA footage to show that the vast majority of cyclists either (a) stop at red lights or (b) go through them with care when there are no pedestrians. But that's not the point, is it? The point is that the video is designed to have us once again arguing over something that is almost totally irrelevant to casualties on our roads.

 

[weepiper]

'die-in' outside TFL's offices this evening.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...-in-outside-transport-for-london-offices.html

 

[RubyToogood]

I got stopped today on my motorbike sneaking into an ASL. There was a little posse of yellow jackets stationed at a busy junction.

It's one of those things... every motorcyclist knows it's illegal but it's just routinely ignored. And IMO as both a motorcyclist and a cyclist it works ok.

Anyway, it was just a quick word and a letoff, thankfully.